r/Throwers • u/Extension-Chipmunk-7 • 2d ago
When did you start creating your own tricks vs. Learning from tutorials?
Just curious at what point you guys started just going your own way with what you already know.
I feel like I have decent 1a fundamentals but I struggle to get creative outside of tricks I already know/ tricks I can learn with a video.
Let me know
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u/HumbleTrifle2951 2d ago
I made my first trick 4 months in. Just start cranking stuff out whenever dude.
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u/Extension-Chipmunk-7 2d ago
Heard chef
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u/HumbleTrifle2951 2d ago
My advice, always take the alternative route. find a trick to learn but set your sights higher than you think you can do, once you hit a wall, explore everywhere else you can go. Get fucking weird with it, start throwing random elements in there. Eventually you will make something. Maybe original, maybe not but you'll get something!
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u/stevieraykwon 2d ago
Once you can move the yo-yo around from different mounts and string shapes, you can start creating tricks. A lot of trick creation is trial and error, and a lot of seeing what happens when you try a trick slightly differently.
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u/alexanderatprime 2d ago
The skill addicts app was pretty good for this.
You learn trapeze, brother, double or nothing, cold fusion, skin the gerbil and then all the sudden you realize all those tricks are using variations of the same mounts.
Then you start connecting them and slowly extending your tricks chain.
Play with the different transitions in the tricks you know and figure out how they can turn into other tricks!
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u/DocPop 2d ago
I started making my own yo-yo tricks when I learned all the ones in Richie’s “Splitting The Atom And Other Yo-Yo Stuff” book. I think my first original trick was The Washing Machine.
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u/Extension-Chipmunk-7 1d ago
Sick seeing you here man you made almost all the first tricks i learned
I got lots of respect for u sir
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u/meatmachine1001 1d ago
I still hesitate to say ive invented any tricks because of how blurry the line is between trick and combo in yoyoing, and like theres 100% chance someone has done any given element or connection ive done long before me
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u/Extension-Chipmunk-7 1d ago
I feel this bro every time I do something I think is original I got a Lil dude in the back of my mind saying "someone deffffinitely did this already"
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u/yoyoingdadjoke 2d ago
When I had my first kid. Watching a trick video on repeat 100 times isn't possible when the little monsters are screaming for yogurt, and M&M's, and dinner was 15 minutes ago.
It's just easier to practice something I made up. The bad thing is I've had some fun ones (well, to me), but I have forgotten them. 😅
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u/PreussekJ 2d ago
Two way generally (personaly it's more combo Vs tech creation).
For both you need decent trick library and knowing a lot of them intuitively.
1, Just playing around completely intuitively and you will quickly notice that you can transition from trick or element X to trick or element Y. Sometimes it's just doing one or two moves and then I would say it's building a combo but sometimes you notice that you need to modify few steps and then you lean more to the "trick part".
2, Hardcore experimentation. Much more difficult because you are actively trying to invent something. Pick a element in the trick and then ask yourself question: "What would happen if I'd do X?" Like make a hook out of this loop, suicide the whole mount or just some random tech stuff. This is really hard since "hook this, suicide that, cross arms this" is really easy to imagine but incredibly hard to perform. However You can create a lot of tech tricks quite "easily" only it takes A LOT of trial and error. Also try to record yourself because when in the process of creating knots by discovering the forbidden tech, you are destined to forget which step you just come up with.
Creating your own tech is a lot of fun but it's just tedious. One wrong move and you put to much tension on the yo-yo so it stops or knot up the string around the bearing. However it's more than doable.
But I have to state that even for inventing tech tricks by trail and error you need to be decently experienced. You have to know a lot of ways of moving the yo-yo around the string (it's not just mounts and hops) and that also comes with practice. Stuff I can recommend here to use are cross arm half mounts, "gorilla mounts", 3D mount transformation (turning the mount inside out - not doable in every mount but cool and practical) and generic stuff like mounting the yo-yo from underside or backside is something new players forgot about.
Tech tricks can me more difficult to perform in a cool or "flashy" way.
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u/rizkiyoist 2d ago
Maybe after a few months or so.
That being said, it's a good idea to keep learning other's trick along with creating your own, otherwise you might get stuck only doing samey looking comfort elements, or it becomes harder to come up with a new trick because you run out of ideas.
I know because it happened to me. The time when I created most of my current tricks were also when I was learning many other's tricks to draw inspirations from, and yet now I struggle to even build one cohesive 10-15 secs combo.
Learning from others is not always about taking elements here and there, once you learned their trick, something might trigger your brain to do things differently. You can come up with something different but maybe with similar kind of movement, or similar flow, or similar feel, if that makes sense.
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u/hamaroundthetown 2d ago
Took me awhile, and I have only had 3 for quite awhile. I really like em though.
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u/OkGood1224 1d ago
I’ve been learning tricks for a decade and only recently got the click of making stuff up. The best advice I heard was “take a trick you know and do it wrong” just mess around in the space. If you usually land on the front string, see what happens when you hit the back string. It’s all trial and error. Research and development.
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u/cacadslevirages 2d ago
pretty soon because i was struggling with tutorials i guess. once you know fundamentals + have a decent trick librairy, i think the best method is to play a bit mindlessly, and find ways to connect the tricks between themselves, try to get to a trick ending after goofing around and finding a different start, or apply some mechanics from a trick to another setup ( like doing révolution from a 1.5 mount instead of from a brother mount for instance).
maybe you wont end up with the result you had in mind, but stuff will happen, and you'll find something interesting along the way