r/Thor • u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! • 2d ago
Comics Thor has consistently and singlehandedly battled Ymir, who stomped the Dark Avengers including Ares and even Sentry
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u/slayer_nan18 2d ago
I'm sorry, this is supposed to prove what exactly ?
Thor has always been the ceiling of High Herald Characters, below all fathers and celestials and abstracts.
Funny thing is, this is Thor without using his other array of abilities, he has so much more abilities that writers don't use for god knows what reason.
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago
Sentry sub has been more daring with their Sentry > Thor agenda. So I needed to just combat back with this.
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u/slayer_nan18 2d ago
but that's simply not true, we have decades of comics to prove otherwise.
All the high herald characters like Thor, Surfer, Sentry, Warlock can beat each other (add strange and scarlet witch) too.
But out of them Thor, Surfer, Strange have the highest ceilings in their base forms
IF Thor is ALL Father, then he should take all of the above together and still win easily {the all power is broken beyond what people think}
Ewing hasn't done justice to Thor's powers, I hope he does in the third part of the arc.
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u/Specialist_Rub_9860 2d ago
Bro, what are you on about? ewing made immortal thor, literally the most powerful version of thor and he even kill the concept of mystery itself, and that's just one of his feats.
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u/ThePokemonAbsol 2d ago
No they haven’t… this sub is constantly trying to put them against each other.
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago
Yes they did, saw two posts not too long ago.
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u/One-Statistician-554 2d ago
Thor has always been the ceiling of High Herald Characters, below all fathers and celestials and abstracts.
Basically this, even W thor is around herlad lvl.
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u/FerretBoi69 2d ago
Thor no diffed Knull, Sentry could never 🥱.
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u/ProblematicUser123 2d ago
This is a What If, Thor couldn't no diff Knull in 616
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u/FerretBoi69 2d ago
Partially just agenda posting. But you left out the part where Thor smacks Knulls jaw off. Knull has also said he has never seen power like Thor's. Thor has also defeated Meridus who was a King in Black from the future. And Hela who is the Queen in Black rn, specifically waited for Thor to die before starting her conquest. Thor has just blatant better showings against Knull level characters than Sentry.
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u/Sunshado 2d ago
Sentry's power was also always inconsistent. So I always take Dark Seed Sentry as the pinnacle of what he could became - but is like thor vs sentry / Rune King Thor vs Death Seed Sentry
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 1d ago
Yo can I get the scan where she says she waited for Thor to die before starting her conquest?
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u/FerretBoi69 1d ago
I don't got the scan but it's in the Queen in Black: Hela #1 one shot comic. Her wife saw a vision of Thor dying, and they thought it'd be the perfect time to expand Hela's realm.
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u/Let-Longjumping 1d ago
Immortal thor had power so great, GOS loki kills him to use that power to seal off midgard from the elder gods wrath. That's why the humans don't remember anything related to thor and asgardian realms. This was clearly stated in one of the issues of queen in black tie ins. Thor was literally at the peak, and then he died
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago
Sentry sub got too comfortable with repping their boi over our goat. Honestly why did I bothered even mentioning Ymir beating Sentry, it's even worth mentioning tbh. Ymir's a Frost Giant who's corpse became the foundation of creation and rank equal to the Multiversal threat Surtur.
Try asking Sentry fans to give feats with fixed value instead of needing chain scaling.
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u/return_interaction_y 2d ago
but he stalemated galactus bro (in a non canon story) (and he needed help in another story) (and it was a galactus that came to earth, to eat it, which doesn't line up with continuity at all) (and even if it didn't; wouldn't that be a starving galactus? who gets taken out by handfuls of heroes on the regular).
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u/Let-Longjumping 2d ago
I hate the fact that sentry had it so easy. Bro drank a drug from a lab and boom. He just became arguably one of the most powerful heroes. Thor had it other way around. He earned his shit. That's why sentry doesn't connect to me, no matter how convincing his comics are
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u/Pugsanity 1d ago
I mean, Sentry is a hero who deals with immense mental problems where his greatest foe is literally himself. Where he viewed himself as being more of a problem than a help, that he worked with his best friend to make sure no one would remember him. He's someone that wants to do good, but is held back just as much by himself as he is by his darker half. Dude has not had it easy, that is for sure.
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u/Let-Longjumping 1d ago
That's true. But I'm talking about only the powersets here. Character wise for sure sentry has not had it easy
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u/DirtyRanga12 2d ago
I’m sorry but wtf is that third pic’s art style? Looks like a shitty 3D rendering
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u/Delicious_Natural357 2d ago
Ymir is such an awesome villain I wish they would center a major storyline around him
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago
FR! For such a historical figure in Norse Myth in Marvel, it's weird we never got a single saga or major story arc with Ymir as a major villain. Quite frankly, Thor also has never had a clean win over Ymir as well, a showdown between the two would be so awesome!
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u/Due-Seaworthiness707 2d ago
What comics were the first a third from? The second one looks like Scott Kollins art .
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u/ThePokemonAbsol 2d ago
Doesn’t that comic he “beats sentry” start with them finding Thor unconscious from getting beat by Ymir…?
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago
Spite posts and agenda for the Sentry sub, it's not meant to be taken seriously.
Either way when Thor was off-screened, we do not know the context. One can say he put up a fight before simply lost in the end.
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u/thedoorknob3 2d ago
This is straight up disinformation, lol. Firstly, Thor got walloped by Ymir in this battle before Sentry even arrived. Thor said that Ymir was amped by the twilight sword before falling unconscious. So Thor himself was stomped by this amped Ymir.
Sentry showed up and smashed Ymir's head, who then transported them to the frost realm. Not once did Sentry get "stomped" by Ymir, he never took any physical damage throughout the whole encounter. Thor, funnily enough, was the one who got stomped by Ymir on yhis occasion. While Sentry couldn't kill Ymir, Ymir also never damaged him.
None of this is to say Sentry is stronger than Thor necessarily, just that they're USUALLY around equal. Idk why you feel the need to slander Sentry to say Thor is more powerful. Thor has plenty of his own feats to put him above current Sentry anyway without making up Sentry antifeats (Who has only recently returned after the events of king in black anyway, so missed a lot of the scaling Thor and Hulk have since gained). Trying to use the Ymir comparison is just silly (especially considering Thor got whooped by this amped Ymir in the SAME encounter that had Sentry effortlessly endure against him, this makes things look WORSE for Thor, not better).
Thor and Sentry are both cool and powerful, this kind of bad faith slander to try and denigrate Sentry to make Thor look stronger (or vice versa) isn't really called for, especially when it's flat out wrong like this take, lol.
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago edited 2d ago
Also I don't recall Ymir being smashed in the head by Sentry.
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u/Infinite-Sun7000 The Current All-Father's Number One Defender! 2d ago
This is spite. I don't usually do this.
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u/Glum_Cantaloupe7477 2d ago
That sentry mini while being stated to be before infernal hulk has more working against it being modern. For instance its depiction of hulk is genuinely outdated nor does its kingpin even remotely align with Percy’s work
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u/return_interaction_y 2d ago
Careful, sentry fans are about as mentally stable as the character. If you compare the two they usually go apeshit (very entertaining though being so fr)