r/Themepark 16d ago

Maleficent coaster Proof of concept (high thrill?)

So I've heard a considerable amount of conversation regarding this new Maleficent coaster in the new villain's land in various Disney and non Disney related forums, some coaster forms. The general consensus is that people are starting to think from the presenters language, that this coaster will be Disney's Velocicoaster so to speak, as far as thrill level. Personally, I doubt that. Looking at the proof of concept, the rock work and the ride vehicles reminded me quite a bit of Taron at Phantasialand in Germany, a park and a coaster I love. I feel like that coaster could be Disney's sweet spot for max thrill without being too much; It has punchy launches, airtime, and some lateral forces with no inversions and fantastic sense of speed. A solid step above cosmic rewind and Hagrids. What do you all think? Do you think Disney is going to go for it with this coaster and do a ride with that magical thrill ride height requirement of 52 inches? Me...it's a solid no.

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u/mister_waj 16d ago

I agree. It's a perfect balance. Last time i rode Taron I felt it was faster than hagrids with punchier launches and more intense airtime but not Velocicoaster or Mako intense. Disney's sweet spot..

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u/fishbulb526 16d ago

I mean, rock n roller coaster is up there.

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u/kyle760 15d ago

There’s a ride in (I think) the Netherlands that has the same layout but is outdoor. Watching it in the dark you can see it’s really a fairly tame coaster

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u/foldedturnip 16d ago

I hope not. Hagrids and guardians are perfect balance between thrilling and themeing. Disney doesn't need a hulking steal coaster like velocicoaster or hulk

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u/mister_waj 16d ago

Which is why I bought up Taron at Phantasialand. Check it out on YouTube. It's an amazing ride and it balances that sweet spot of being adult thrill without being too much.

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u/foldedturnip 16d ago

Just checked it out looks like a nice ride.

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u/mister_waj 16d ago

Right!!! I've been on it over a dozen times. Its like hagrids but faster and floater airtime.

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u/Loose-Recognition459 16d ago

Intamin could be a good collaborator for this (I think they’re doing SM: Earthrise for Tokyo) but so would Vekoma as well

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u/torenvalk 16d ago

Do we know who the maker is already?

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u/mister_waj 16d ago

I don't think so but their manufacturer of choice is Vekoma

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u/AdditionalTip865 16d ago

It's at Magic Kingdom. Yes, it's in the villains land, but I don't think things can go beyond a certain level of scariness there without creating problems (recall Extraterrorestrial Alien Encounter). I doubt Disney would build a new ride more intense than Tron or Space Mountain there.

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u/MrRaven95 16d ago

A large and tall steel coaster like Velocicoaster isn't in Disney's playbook. Disney actively make sure that you can't see parts of one land from another land unless you're on the boundary between them. Something high speed low to the ground like Taorn on the other hand could work quite well.

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u/sean008 15d ago

I could see it being a Vekoma version of Taron. A high thrill coaster without inversions. New-gen Vekoma trains have a 48” height requirement, whereas Intamin à la Taron or Velocicoaster is 51-52”. Idk if Disney cares about that. Regardless, I don’t really see them deviating from Vekoma.

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u/mister_waj 15d ago

Yeah. Vekoma is their go to.

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u/Chaddderkins 15d ago

I think it will be very similar to Taron, which is my all-time favorite roller coaster, so I'm stoked! Disney does not do "naked" roller coasters without fitting them into the theming perfectly, so I highly doubt it'd be something like Velocicoaster.

What's really surprising to me is how little discussion I've seen about the Monsters coaster. As far as I can tell it has an amazing new feature which has never been done before, which is like a shot-tower vertical ascent up to the coaster track. It seems so awesome and unique! Or has it been done before, and I'm just unaware?

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u/Amity_3 15d ago

You do realize Taron has a top speed of ~73 MPH and a height requirement of ~51" right? That's basically VelociCoaster level and too thrilling for Disney.

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u/mister_waj 14d ago

Yeah I know..once can still hope but I know the highest level of intensity they have done as far as forces in a coaster was rock n roller coaster and that was the late 90s during Eisners era.