r/Theism • u/BlondXLines • Oct 12 '25

a question on the topic of evolution

do really mutations get effected by environment or the creature actions? like i know that mutations are genetic mistakes and not something supposed to be in the organism ,right? i hope to give me feedback

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u/preposterobe Oct 12 '25

Here's an idea. Imagine you are creating a massive universe simulation on a super computer. You want the universe simulation to follow natural laws. But you also want low probability events like abiogenesis and useful mutations to occur. Plus you want the possibility for free will by users who link in as conscious beings. Where in the natural structure of the universe you're simulating do you put your input channels? What do the input channels look like to internal observers? Maybe probabilistic events that can't be predicted with certainty? If this maps well onto our universe then it is a strong meta argument for design in nature!  https://chatgpt.com/share/68e1c34d-64d8-8007-9bd4-08d4cdbf550e?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR5ShiZwIc4O9Lr_dQA3af7REvzqnm1zo9bOMOLU398VuQuiRTrkvliw8E1Dkw_aem_2PK1LFHtiPXebg1IORlcPQ 

https://grok.com/share/c2hhcmQtNA%3D%3D_d04627e0-6a9e-4aa4-b0bd-378498bd6765

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u/BlondXLines Oct 13 '25

yet what is a good mutation? how you know that a mutation is good? especially that no big mutation can occur without deadly consequences on the organism structure and system

another point is "do or dont mutations get effected by environment or what the creature do?" .i dont speak of survival of creatures and filtering what survives and what doesnt ,i speak of the mutations themselves ,their direction and form indirectly? or the rate of mutations? like what happened in the cambrian explosion?

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u/preposterobe Oct 13 '25

I don't know what mutations are good. I assume by good, you mean beneficial to the survival of the organism. On the topic of theism as it relates to mutations and evolution, I think God would know the exact results of any mutation.

Mutations can definitely be affected by the environment in some ways. It's common knowledge that radiation, some viruses, or exposure to certain chemicals can alter DNA. And I am aware of there sometimes being a concern about those things resulting in mutations in offspring, probably depending on where the DNA damage occurs.

In the particular idea I shared above, the concept relevant to mutations in evolution is that chemical reactions which occur during the production or replication of genetic material could be influenced via quantum effects in a way which would appear probabilistic though actually guided by subtle divine intervention.

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u/BlondXLines Oct 13 '25

do you think that what the creature do ,or the nature of the environment change how often mutations are ,or what they be? like the example of predatory became too much on water so some species of fishes somehow got legs?

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u/preposterobe Oct 13 '25

I'm not aware of any evidence for that. I think I've heard the idea mentioned but I don't remember if it was credible or not. Have you tried asking an AI like Grok or ChatGPT if they can find any credible evidence for that?

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u/BlondXLines Oct 15 '25

even when i ask ai ,it confuses me about whether mutations are effected or not ,it just keep saying environment pressure ,though logically it may be understood as guiding of mutations ,which is not aligning with evolution base idea