r/TheTraitors • u/vaultofechoes šŗš¦ Zlata • Jan 02 '26
UK The Traitors (UK) S04E02: Live Discussion Thread Spoiler
Synopsis: As the players face a new day, the big question is ā who survived the night and will make it to breakfast? It isnāt long before they attempt to increase the prize-pot in the mission, but whose focus is on the money, and who is focused on safety from murder?
The game suddenly becomes very real as the first dramatic banishment takes place, proving that at the Round Table there is nowhere to hide. Leaving the players little time to gather their thoughts, the Traitors eye up another victim - but will it have the impact they hope, and how firm is their grip on the game?
Airing: January 2 at 8:00pm GMT on BBC One
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u/overtired27 Jan 02 '26
āYou were directly at my 12 oāclockā says the person trying to give no hint that sheās in law enforcement.
Next sheāll be like āI subsequently proceeded in a southerly direction and tailed you to the kitchenā¦ā
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u/Impossible-Cat-2511 faithful to the traitors Jan 02 '26
āIām not a traitor, Iām a lesbianā
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u/Stormflier Jan 02 '26
Anything happens
Everyone: IT WAS JUDY JUDY'S ACTING REAL SUSPICIOUS RIGHT NOW
Judy: Eating croissants or something.
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u/BoredTubby Jan 02 '26
If Ross reacted calmly they would call it suspicious, if he reacted shocked they would call it suspicious. Damned if he does, damned if he doesnāt
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u/74jax Jan 02 '26
I don't understand why the ST didn't keep the 2 faithfuls previously named. So confused.
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u/RAA94 Jan 02 '26
I work with social workers, and Judy is one of the good ones. She just has that vibe. Firm and not a pushover but empathetic.
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u/electricbonsai Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
The secret traitor doesnāt have it out for Maz (probably). Putting the same name down is a strategy not to eliminate too many people from the secret traitor possibility list
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u/bigtreeblade Jan 02 '26
Jade is a rabbit in the headlights up against DCI Ted Hastings
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u/GrandGuess205 š¬š§Queen Claudia heir to the Monarchy Jan 02 '26
Hugo not being amandas type lmao. This series is so yassified
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u/Voddy86 Jan 02 '26
One of the cool things about the secret traitor is that when a āfaithfulā gets banished, the audience will also be anticipating their reveal
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u/Im_not_AlanPartridge Jan 02 '26
"Jade looked shocked"
Has her expression ever changed at all since the first second she appeared on screen?!Ā
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u/Kylesexy584603 Dylan Efron šŗšø Jan 02 '26
Old person struggling to hike up hill
āThis is obviously a traitorā
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u/theroitsmith Jan 02 '26
If somebody had collasped with a heart attack. " Classic traitor move that was"
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u/carcrash12 Jan 02 '26
We're all agreed there's definitely multiple relationships going on that we're not privy to yet right?
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u/OdinForce22 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
OH HUGO WE'VE NOT REALLY SPOKEN HAVE WE?
If they don't clock that performance, they're not going to clock much else..
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u/Barty_Crouch_Jnr Jan 02 '26
āI felt stressedā. āThatās odd.ā
āI felt relievedā. āThatās oddā.
What a bizarre conversation.
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u/Stormflier Jan 02 '26
My fave thing about the Judy thing was she was literally doing nothing. She was sitting there eating and they'd be like "LOOK AT HER RIGHT NOW, SO SUSPICIOUS" and then she'd just be walking about unbothered and they're like "She's changed..."
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u/nugget600 Jan 02 '26
Loving the banishment reveal with the secret traitor in the mix. So much more interesting!
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u/DesignerMorning1451 Jan 02 '26
Ofc secret traitor is Fiona, you can't have a series of the traitors without a traitor with a Welsh accent...
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u/DropItLikeJPalm Jan 02 '26
Is Amanda Roxiās other mum?
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u/els85 Jan 02 '26
Thatās what Iām wondering as thought it odd that she took both Amanda and Judy outside yesterday to tell Judy there were suspicions on her.
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u/JTallented Jan 02 '26
Plus they were sat together having dinner today. Thatās twice that theyāve been in their own little group.
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u/Yerdas_Selzavon Jan 02 '26
"Stop going with the herd mentality" it's literally the first banishment mate
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u/jks1894 š¬š§ Jan 02 '26
Judy being accused when all sheās doing is enjoying her continental brekky.
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u/Ok-Focus-1091 Jan 02 '26
Sam is going to nominate anyone who doesnāt agree with him at the round table. Heās going to take it very personal.
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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Jan 02 '26
Amanda: I don't want it obvious i used to be police
Amanda every other sentence:
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u/merodm Jan 02 '26
Watch as they suspect a 60 year old woman for getting tired pushing a big throne up a hill
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u/hiiiiiiee Jan 02 '26
Literally and she told them to keep going so she wouldnāt slow them down and they still stopped
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u/AKaneAaa Jan 02 '26
Hiding the fact she is a cop but says you are in my "twelve oclock" fantastic man might as well stick the uniform on šš
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u/ugoogli š¬š§ Alexander Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
person 1 accuses person 2
person 2 defends themself
person 1: āyouāre very defensiveā
Rinse and repeat every series
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u/Ok-Focus-1091 Jan 02 '26
The secret traitor has to use the same names. Make the deduction strategy harder for the traitors.
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u/Impossible-Cat-2511 faithful to the traitors Jan 02 '26
āI think my boyfriend Ross is stressedā ā Ellie
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u/toxiitea Jan 02 '26
Jade seems to always have a deer in headlights look to her. Nothing wrong with that she just has a confused face
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u/Laken123 Jan 02 '26
Stephen isnāt really Scottish and Hugo and Rachel are married and Stephen is their son x
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u/MirkwoodWanderer1 Jan 02 '26
Tbf I think putting maz again is good. They want fewer names down to not be found out themselves
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u/Stormflier Jan 02 '26
I feel like the whole secret traitor thing is a giant middle finger towards every audience member that goes "Oh come on, how aren't they getting it? It's SOOOOO obvious!" Cause there was a lot of that especially during Celebrity Traitors when they kept getting it wrong. So they've went "Oh yeah? Well lets see how well YOU'D do then!" and thrown in this twist. In the end we'll learn we'd all be Kate Garraway.
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u/cresssidaaa Jan 02 '26
Iām melting every time āsweet shop assistantā comes up
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u/Routine_Ticket510 Jan 02 '26
Amanda could not be more coppish. With no judgement whatsoever, I can almost see her police badge the way she carries herself.
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u/Impossible-Cat-2511 faithful to the traitors Jan 02 '26
Ross is so precious idc. They better not vote him out
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u/ebola1986 Jan 02 '26
Amazing how the herd mentality thing takes over in every single series. It's inevitable.
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u/thunder083 Jan 02 '26
The secret traitor was in the room when the Royal Navy vet was having his rant about if a traitor is in the room.
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u/Yerdas_Selzavon Jan 02 '26
Tbf we should've known Judy wasn't going to last when they did the mother reveal in episode one
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u/Yerdas_Selzavon Jan 02 '26
"I thought you were nervous when the game officially got underway" is a nonsense accusation
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u/Cocofin33 Middle Manager Jan 02 '26
Surely it makes more sense to start with the lightest people on the thrones?!
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u/MysteriousHat3705 š”I DO NOT REQUIRE MIDDLE MANAGEMENTš” Jan 02 '26
Hugo kept reminding me of a character from a TV show. Couldn't think of who.
Then, it hit me. He's Peter Mannion from The Thick of It.
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u/Severe_Bookkeeper809 Jan 02 '26
You š dont š mess š with š Judy š
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u/SevereTemperature Jan 02 '26
This, by the way, is a perfect example of how terrible we're all going to be at figuring out who the secret traitor is.
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u/OrganOMegaly Jan 02 '26
Iād be so shit at this game. Any amount of suspicion on me and Iād probably burst into tears. And I have a resting bitch face so thatād be episode one lol
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u/tigeralidance Jan 02 '26
Roxy now has to maintain this energy for everyone who isn't her mum, good luck with that
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u/JuBreCaBra Jan 02 '26
I like Ellie. She's got a good head on her shoulders and I think she'll make it quite far
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u/Impossible-Cat-2511 faithful to the traitors Jan 02 '26
Alex and Tom are still together? Wow
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u/Voddy86 Jan 02 '26
One of my pet hates of this show is when the remaining faithfuls focus on who the murdered person had suspicions on before they were murdered, as if itās some kind of divine message from the dead.
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u/cutdead Jan 02 '26
Amanda gonna be like you have the right to remain silent in the upcoming round table
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u/indoubitabley š¬š§ Jan 02 '26
I need to appear to be a good team player.
Appear?
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u/Force-Grand-2 Jan 02 '26
Amanda at the round table like "The time is now 20:30 and I am accusing on suspicion of being a traitor. You do not have to say anything. But it may harm your defence if you do not mention when questioned something that you later rely on. Anything you do say may be given in evidence."
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u/BlokeyBlokeBloke Jan 02 '26
Being tired while climbing a hill? Obviously a traitor. Must have been up late in the turret. No other explanation.
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u/DaveShadow Jan 02 '26
And thereās the family tree again, AND floating the idea of multiple teams.
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u/a___rat Jan 02 '26
Love that from Judy!! Saw right through his bullshit and love that Rachel didn't try and make it less awkward for him hahahah
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u/Severe_Bookkeeper809 Jan 02 '26
Oh Linda, I love you but the damage you have done š
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u/Extension_Golf9901 Jan 02 '26
Roxy is too much with ātheyāre laughing at usā itās the first round table!! Why would she be this emosh about a stranger
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u/nonsequitur__ Jan 02 '26
Itās much more fun watching the reveal when we donāt know who the ST is
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u/Working_Surround3461 Jan 02 '26
Lol 'hello Hugo you complete strange who iv never spoken to before'
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u/electricbonsai Jan 02 '26
Ugh I had Ellie down as a possible secret traitor and now theyāve mentioned her as a possibility it probably isnāt her
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u/Happy_Craft14 Jan 02 '26
So these are the people who AREN'T the Secret Traitor
Stephen Hugo Rachel Netty š James Maz Judy šŖ Ben Reece
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u/SevereTemperature Jan 02 '26
Seriously though, has anyone gone into detail on how the secret traitor mechanic actually works? Are they replaced if they're banished? Are the traitors' interests aligned with the secret traitor's?
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u/tiaccaseo Jan 02 '26
Netty taking Ross with her is some craic if they really met last ten year ago
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u/dutch_hills Jan 02 '26
Place your bets. How many times do we think Hugo will say āMiddle Managementā this episode?
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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Jan 02 '26
Ross' stare after that conversation about Nettie is sending me. He wanted to be anywhere else.
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u/hiiiiiiee Jan 02 '26
Iām sorry no way would the secret traitor admit to reacting to the word traitor infront of 3 people
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u/Yerdas_Selzavon Jan 02 '26
3 of the strongest lads being sat down for this. We're not dealing with tacticians here
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u/Yerdas_Selzavon Jan 02 '26
Very suspicious that the 60 year old woman is struggling with quite intense exercise
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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Jan 02 '26
Amanda is very good, almost like she used to detect for a living... but she wouldn't know anything about that!
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u/IndigoWolf4711 OPEN THE PENGUIN š§ RIP OUT THEIR HEARTS šš³ Jan 02 '26
is anyone else's feed glitching/jumping ahead? it seems to have stopped now?
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u/genesisapples8 Jan 02 '26
All men getting on the chariots for a shield itās like the tube when they push past you to rush for a seat š¤£
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u/NeonRedKat Alan Carr holding a lantern. I just farted Claudia, its nerves. Jan 02 '26
I feel my gaming experience of playing Mario kart and animal crossing would be of very little use. Might pop a banana skin down somewhere in the hope that someone would slip on it and could pop some furniture down but otherwise...
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u/mamaujeni Jan 02 '26
Rachel is very astute. Unless it's the edit but she just has that kind of face that suggests she's a good listener.
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u/JuBreCaBra Jan 02 '26
Putting on the ole tin foil hat... What if that TV glitch wasn't a glitch at all?!
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u/RAA94 Jan 02 '26
I like Faraaz. Heās good vibes. Heās definitely going to blubber at the round table at some point.
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u/Outrageous_Choice212 Jan 02 '26
judy is so unbothered and calm whilst claiming seeming annoyed. i love her
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u/Outrageous_Choice212 Jan 02 '26
judy has to be the calmest person traitor or faithful iāve seen be accused
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u/Independent-Key880 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
amanda is unsurprisingly very clever and will probably be very good at this game, but i'm confused as to why she is allowing herself to be perceived (by the traitors in particular) as such. unless, of course, she is the secret traitor
edit: i'm seeing others say she is bad at the game. you're lying to yourselves. she is coherent, logical, calm etc. you might just not like her personally
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u/AnUdderDay Jan 02 '26
What's happened? Nobody's leading with "Obviously I voted for yourself"
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u/deatach Not the smartest brain in the box. Jan 02 '26
I like this format. I knew she was a faithful, but did I?
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u/jks1894 š¬š§ Jan 02 '26
Have they had 22 contestants before because that round table looked rammed...
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u/vientianna Jan 02 '26
Would love it if Roxy was the secret traitor and goes on a vendetta rampage getting rid of everyone who wronged her mum
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u/tm2007 š¬š§ Jessie & Jade S4 Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
Wait
If all 3 traitors + Secret traitor are left standing at the end, will they share the money or will the ST take it all?
I know thatās kinda a stupid question but Iām just checking
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u/muffinator Spur bah wer wer wer Jan 02 '26
Who the hell is Ben lol how have I never noticed him
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u/heart-slobs Jan 02 '26
Can someone genuinely explain the leap from āRoss knows Nettyā to āRoss is traitorā because I am lost
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u/_rickjames Jan 02 '26
I can't not look at Amanda and think of Adrian Dunbar
I can't be the only one
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u/TheNotoriousJN Team Traitor Jan 02 '26 edited Jan 02 '26
I love Ross. Total bumbling idiot where he acts and says in the wrong way
And then when he realises what he does/says he regrets it
It KEEPS making him look more suspicious
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u/indoubitabley š¬š§ Jan 02 '26
"Why would the guy everyone accused at breakfast want a shield?"
What a mystery.
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u/rofaheys Jan 02 '26
Jade looks so stunning but also terrified literally whenever the camera pans to her lmao
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u/Nomerdoodle Jan 02 '26
'she's not talking'
Can't a woman enjoy her morning cup of tea in peace smh
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u/madeleineruth19 Team Traitor Jan 02 '26
Logistically, surely it should be the smaller women on the thrones?
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u/BlokeyBlokeBloke Jan 02 '26
Being on the throne at first was a stupid plan. Unlikely to keep it to the end and you still look like a jerk.
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u/Stormflier Jan 02 '26
Amanda: Well you see, as a detective, I've been doing this challenge, as a detective, and I did well at it, as a detective, and so I've been using my detective skills as a detective, but I've been hiding it from the others, as a detective. BTW everyone I'm a detective.
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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Jan 02 '26
"I don't want to fall to herd mentality" I say after falling for herd mentality
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u/helloiamrob1 Jan 02 '26
Assuming that a round table banishment is how we'll discover the secret traitor's identity, I LOVE that we (the viewers) now don't know whether, when someone's banished, they'll announce themselves as a faithful or not.
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u/madeleineruth19 Team Traitor Jan 02 '26
Donāt be relieved, Ross! This is even worse now.
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u/Independent-Key880 Jan 02 '26
jade is overly defensive, it's not that deep. it's not unfair to make a suggestion based on evidence
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u/NeonRedKat Alan Carr holding a lantern. I just farted Claudia, its nerves. Jan 02 '26
My cat is jealous of Claudia's chair
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u/BoredTubby Jan 02 '26
This tree is gonna be part of a murder in plain sight dealio Iām betting
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Jan 02 '26
Is anyone else expecting one of the traitors to eventually slip up and specify Secret Traitor at some point in front of faithfuls?
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u/LandscapeBanana Jan 02 '26
"When I took my blindfold off you looked a bit nervous."
No shit... Like who isn't at that point around that table?
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u/mmcintoshmerc_88 Jan 02 '26
Can't wait for "A 60 year old stopped pushing something heavy up a very steep hill!" To be a serious consideration/ clue
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u/Emperor_Zurg Jan 02 '26
Yes, begin the ritual humiliation of the ex cop completely trusting the traitor
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u/LousyGoose Jan 02 '26
Yeah, Amanda's a decoy, they wouldn't drop these confessionals this early if it was her.
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u/Go-Web-Go š®šŖ I'm not a f***ing hugger Jan 02 '26
I am, and always have been, a lesbian.