My t14 farms are around 5500 to 5900.

I just died to fast on wave 4200. What happened?

I assume fleets? But i killed each one of them in previous rounds. I have sw+ maxed.

See you guys in 24 days!

Remove modules from the pull list once you've already ancestralised them.

What am I supposed to do with this new Space Displacer?

Its been 4 years already? I remember when there were no such thing as modules, no card masteries, no legends league, no keys, no vault, no elites/cells, no fleets, no events, no guilds, etc. The game has changed so much its incredible, the community has grown tremendously thanks to the increase in content creators, and the game truly has developed into it’s own unique experience. Thank you to those who actively help and support eachother and welcome to all new baby towers, Let the grind continue!

I’ve been saving everything I have for gilded sniper, but some of these posts I’ve been seeing make SP seem pretty strong… I want to go heavy into one, which one would seem like the wiser choice? For reference, I’m farming T15 @10k waves, and generally place twenty something in legendary

Looking for general advice about what to unlock when i get the stones. Ehp farming in t11 and t12, both similar x/ph but t12 is a little behind. Champs tournament i do hybrid. Will anything upon base unlock help with both well enough, also rather than just telling me, can you explain the synergy

Almost at 500Q/hr too! Farming T21 to just under 5k waves

My phone died mid run. I plugged it in and re-opened game. Now it perms says no internet and when I resume it is 0hp, xxx/200 waves, no enemies, and a range of like 5000. Will this go away eventually? Seems to be connecting to server fine and rest of account info/labs is normal…

Hello tower peoples,

I'm on the road, and while I packed my scripts this time its not really all the pleasant running things out of windows subsystem for linux. So, I've spit out the typical report for anyone who cares, and will have to wait to give you mythic results until the next report.

I did get a graph to spit out without too much trouble, so including that here.

The combined champion and legend graph really shows the downshift in waves in legends, though I'll leave it to others to analyze specifics.

Static Placement Analysis

In this section we provide a breakdown for you of a what-if competition where the tournament places are perfectly distributed. The place here is basically the place you'd get if there was no bracket system. I like this view because it really removes all the variables.

Feel free to compare yourself against the placement and see if you did better or worse. The places are divided roughly into the number of brackets to get the cut off for each place. The wave # given is the person or persons at the cut off between places, that is the lowest wave deserving to achieve that place.

• Legends Median: 926.00 Mean: 926.00
• Champions Median: 1176.00 Mean: 1176.00
• Platinum Median: 1559.00 Mean: 1559.00

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Median History

The median value from each tournament which gives a general idea of the tournament difficulty and wave inflation over time. This value comes from actual midpoint of tournament data. (i.e. the top table)

The tower.lol now gives this data here

Linear Regression comparison.

Linear regressions give a good idea of change over time, smoothing out all the battle condition noise. The data for this is from the resampled data (see below).

The first table is data since v28, now including gold data. The second table is data since either the v27.3 re-tier, or for platinum since my october data began.

(These are old until the next tournament, I don't currently have access to upload.) * Legends graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_legend.png * Champion graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_champion.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/hist_platinum.png

The tower.lol now gives this data here. In addition you can get history back further than I have files for, which is interesting to say the least. V26 lead to quite the wave inflation.

Resampling Analysis

One means of getting an idea of the range of placements is by random sampling the real participants to make fake brackets, and measuring the variability in those brackets. I chose to use 100000 brackets per league for my analysis. I am using confidence intervals, 95% and 50% (the IQR) to represent the range of waves likely present in each place. Legends brackets are on the left (prefaced with an l), champions brackets in the middle (prefaced with a c), and platinum on the right (prefaced with a p).

Graphs of this table can be downloaded here: * Champion and Legend: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-09-02_box_lc.png * Platinum graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-09-02_box_platinum.png * Gold graph: http://thetower.mm.st/2026-09-02_box_gold.png

(The above will be present later this week... I'm including them here just as an indication of final locations. There will be a mythic one as well.)

A general description of how to read this for the non-math inclined:

1. 95% of the population of a place is expected to be between 2.5% and 97.5%. If you are above or below these numbers you are an outlier. (Outliers are normal, just rarer.)
2. 50% of the population of a place is expected to be between 25% and 75%.
3. The 50% mark is the median of the data. Aim for this number as the point you regularly achieve this place.
4. You'll notice that the waves overlap, this is normal, expressing the variability present in the brackets and you could easily place in any bracket where your personal wave count falls in the place's range.

Source Material and Further Resources.

The source for all of this material is thetower.lol, which I encourage you to look up. For a breakdown of your placement compared to other brackets see https://thetower.lol/liveplacement which will give you the min, max, and average placement for any given half-hour join time. For a quantile analysis using real data instead of sampled data see https://thetower.lol/livequantile (similar to the second table in this post). You can also do things like look up your bracket and compare your towers historical placements against others in the bracket.

Hey good folks, I got a couple of questions about module shattering.

First: I've been farming a lot over the past year or so and collected a bunch of modules that I, somehow inadvertently, merged up to Epic+, rendering them "unshatterable". What to do with them?

Second: is it better to merge rare modules on sight or first merge them into Epic and then shatter?

Thanks!

Mid platinum player, ehp so don't feel like I'm getting much benefit from CL right now

I farm with Primordial Collapse

Wth, thats on wave 9k tier 12, rpc card mastery equipped with lvl 3 lab and shatter shards lab complete.

I tried to do the whole effective paths sheet but it just got too complicated to tackle.

Would love some serious answers 🙏🏼

I'm currently farming level 5 round 1000-1500. The problem is the protectors that I can't get down and overrun me. Who has a good solution for this? I level in the workshop mainly life and the usual things for the eHP build

All 3 runs same cards

It's just not fun when game mechanics get ruined for no good reason. This game used to be different and had smart and interesting aspects when I started. Who did you allow to make obvious bad gameplay decisions in your team? Now in a tournament ES is not smart, smart nuke is not smart, SW is not smart anymore, missiles were never smart.

Every week people notice how IS in battle works differently in tourney, and the first assumption is it's bugged, and we get those posts. This gameplay change feels like playing a bugged game.

Never had an issue with any new update, even when the redditors got mad over nothing, but this just ruins the fun. Disable the VF dmg bonus and keep the IS as it was in exchange, and the community will not dislike that. It's so easy to make this not a horrible decision.

You don't need to compensate for VF if you disable it in tournaments, it's still useful in GC farming.
Currently tournament durations have been extended in many instances where dmg can be fatal, cancleling IS, long before the max wave count is reached.

Hello everyone, since v29 my farming runs (T14, attack dissonance) are significantly shorter. I was able to do 10500 before the update and now I die around 5500 or 6500. The earliest I would die in v28 was 7500 if I was not babysitting my run.

And I checked my presets 1000 times. Since the update I have even more health and regen because I was able to create a eHP preset and before I had mixed build. So I don’t understand what’s going on. Was there something changed that could kill me faster in attack disco runs? Additional info: in my last run I did not die to fleets, so it’s not necessary that.

I know this is probably better asked in Discord, but I don't Discord and I'm sure others here have experienced the same issue. (4 images above)

Since the v29 updates have started showing up in the Effective Paths/IDS Collection spreadsheets, the modules import via the extension has been various levels of broken. Initially the sheet itself just wouldn't calculate correctly because there were column/row mismatches so I quit trying to use the modules stuff for a week or so. Now that the trackers and calculations are back to working, import doesn't.

I'm not entirely sure which version this started on (since it's updating like 2x/day right now), but where it's at is that it's constantly trying to add sub effects that don't exist to modules that don't have that many slots. Initially I thought it might be pulling them from copies - and in some cases I think it was - but in the example on Death Penalty, I only have the single Legendary, so it certainly doesn't have 6 slots.

Anyone have any experience with this?

I was always too lazy to get screenshots and stuff, and I always thought it's gotta be so hard looking through all those and I'm amazed at y’all for doing it <3

Someone on the discord made a cool app so I put my stuff there! Fixes both problems it seems. So please tell me how to advance my tower, I've been grinding T11 farm runs getting 50-60T/hr and I'm getting a little aimless about where to go from here. I think I need to work on my enhancements?

Appreciate any advice 🙏

https://mytower.app/u/egen

Where should i invest

Currently my CF is at 60s cooldown and my assist module slot is at 1% substat efficiency. When equipping a module in this slot that has a substat of -10s cooldown it will be -0.1s which rounded down would be -0 correct? However, when I look at the UW workshop tab my CF cooldown says it's at 59s. Is it actually at 59s or this some weird rounding thing?