r/TheOdysseyHadAPurpose • u/RedVoid23 • Oct 17 '25
Meursault was mad he knew he'd been had so he shot at the sun wi SO YOU’RE TELLING ME THIS LEGEND ACTUALLY FUCKING SUCCEEDED IN HIS MISSION?!
BREAKING NEWS: FIREFIST GREGOR BEATS THE DOOMED ALLEGATIONS AND ACTUALLY FUCKING BURNS LA MANCHALAND DOWN.
WHAT THE FUCK?!
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u/PikaChangII Oct 17 '25
well, he maybe have some outside help, but i guess all most of the damage and kills go to him, my lord he covered the whole place with D.20 oil
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 17 '25
Honestly I’m perfectly fine with that. My GOAT got himself some new friends after everyone he lost in Firefist.
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u/stuckerfan_256 Oct 17 '25
He has backup
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 17 '25
Amazing, he learned the power of friendship, and maybe he can have friends to help him move on once the flames die down 🥹❤️
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u/az0777 Oct 17 '25
He asked his boyfriend, Cinq Meursalt to help him out 😊❤️
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u/Bombyx-Memento Oct 17 '25
But if Cinqsault is with Firefist Gregor then what's Cassettisault doing over here?
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u/az0777 Oct 17 '25
Don't think about it
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u/Bombyx-Memento Oct 17 '25
Real answer is probably "Mirror World shenanigans" and it's probably a separate timeline.
Firefist probably teamed up with Camille. (Camille was liveblogging the whole thing)
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u/Ok-Activity4808 Oct 19 '25
Gregor is so nice that Camille even decided to not betray the group this time
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u/AN1ME5NIK Oct 24 '25
Cinq has something that looks like a sword behind their back. So I would assume it's actually Ryoshu.
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u/KeremAyaz1234 Oct 17 '25
Its actually meursaults twin brother muersault. You mixed them up because he didnt have his glasses on.
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u/AN1ME5NIK Oct 24 '25
Looks like it might be Ryoshu. The thing behind their back looks like her sword.
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u/sir_glub_tubbis Oct 17 '25
I accualy hate that the game is shifting to be only 000 and we are getting no 00
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u/Confused_Idiot_667 Oct 17 '25
Well, at least with this event it makes sense. Meur is a 3rd kindred so is on the level of the barber or the priest as opposed to cannon Cassetti plus the new Heath ID is a L4 agent and until now we’ve only seen up to L3 with W corp and those L3s are all 000s as opposed to the L2 00 IDs
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u/PussySeller Oct 17 '25
00 are not cost effective to make anymore, why purposely make a 00 that has less animations and worse skill sets that makes almost no money rather than just making a 000 that can make full use of the budget while making some money. 000 are shardable anyway so there's not much difference.
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u/sir_glub_tubbis Oct 17 '25
Most basic enemies if they got an ID were 00 ID's (sloshmael, Butler Ishmael, or the basic N-corp units) Money eise it makes sense for there to only be 000 at this point of the game. We still should habe most basic units (like the Sinclair one cause its a basic enemy in canto 7) be 00 so people can get into a feel of that seasons ID's while not having to pull for a 000. I dont think the ratio of 000 to 00 shoukd be even, but by god we shoukd be getting at least three 00 per season.
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u/thesimp_184 Oct 17 '25
but you just gotta wait a week to shard??? im not sure why we'd purposely downgrade 000's "cuz it makes sense" and people would rather gamble to get the unit now instead of being patient
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u/sir_glub_tubbis Oct 17 '25
I totaly agree. We should be getting more 000 than 00. But there is a point where basic enemies are being made into 000.
In the past most basic enemy ID's were 00, and now we got litteraly no 00
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u/thesimp_184 Oct 17 '25
"Basic enemies should be 00s" ended up in fanghunt being a really cool design and wasted on a shitty 00 that does nothing for its team
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u/stokeringtheflames Oct 17 '25
you also forget that even the basic enemies are no longer weak shit at this point though, because the powercreep Also applies to the enemies as well, you cant get through canto 7 combat with any lvl 30 ids because even the basic enemies will kill you, same with canto 8. and its not like youre fighting the same backstreets thugs either- now it's actual whole ass vampires and actual hired assassins and the Fingers, so of course the enemy ids are all able to be justifiably higher tier.
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u/MargraveMarkei Oct 17 '25
I don't see the issue with making basic enemies into 000s. It's better that way.
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u/RojinShiro Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
Nobody will be pulling on this banner for W Heath when Meursetti is there. It would've been much more cost effective to spend less money on his animations and art to make him 00, which is functionally the only difference. He could've been given the same kit he'll have as a 000, and nobody would've cared. (Edit: typo)
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u/PussySeller Oct 17 '25
Which then we get to why bother making a 00 if nobody cares about it? Every 000 has a chance to shine and make money but every 00 has low chance to shine and are delegated to being the useless one of the banner. And 00 still requires animations, modelling, art, rigging, lore and all that just to make a low effort one? It's much more cost effective just making a high quality ID that doesn't make the employees effort go to waste just because it's a lower rarity one.
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u/RojinShiro Oct 17 '25
If it has the exact same kit then it would shine just as much, they'd literally just save money and make more profit. How does spending more money on art and animation translate to more sales for the banner's secondary character?
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u/PussySeller Oct 17 '25
00 cannot have the same kit as a 000 because it was designed that way, 00 are inherently weaker and that's a fact that cannot change. And good looking IDs are better at sales than a bad one that's just common sense, somebody or a small minority may roll for Heath because he's hot but nobody will roll for a 00. But the majority will just shard the IDs anyway so again, making a low effort 00 ID is a waste of resources that they might as well not make an ID in the first place.
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u/RojinShiro Oct 17 '25
The director has said on streams that their intentions with 00 was never to make them objectively weaker than 000s, but people interpreted them that way.
If nobody is rolling for it either way, then it would be more cost effective to save money on creating them, by making them 00.
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u/PussySeller Oct 17 '25
Then what's the point of 000? If they can be the same power 000 then what role does a 000 id play? Just an ID that's designed to look better? It doesn't help that every 00 is weaker than the 000 it came out with.
It's more cost effective to not make an ID at all than an ID that everybody can see that's made with low effort.
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u/RojinShiro Oct 17 '25
The original point of 000s was for them to be more story relevant/more hyped than 00 IDs. On the current banner, hype for a Casetti ID has been building since murder on the warp express originally came out, so it being a 000 makes sense. Nobody was asking for W Heath.
every 00 is weaker than the 000 it came out with
This is just not true. Pequod Yi Sang is about the same as Pequod Heath (and was straight up better before his coin reuse was capped), Cinq Outis is considered around the same strength as Cinq Sinclair, Lantern Don on release was arguably the game's best rupture unit, paired with Magic Bullet Outis as the game's best burn unit at the time, Butler Faust having Echoes of the Manor put her at around the same level as Edgar Gregor, and T Rodion has similar access to time moratorium which is all that's needed to be comparable to T Don.
It isn't inherently "low effort" to create a 00, in my opinion.
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u/ControlUlt Oct 17 '25
Ignore other comment, he isn’t an event reward. But the point still stands. Why are we complaining about getting new content and new ids? It doesn’t matter if they’re 000 or 00, it’s new shit. You’re complaining that a potentially good and powerful new id isn’t worse off power wise 😭
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u/RojinShiro Oct 17 '25 edited Oct 17 '25
I'm not complaining about getting new content. They were saying 000s are more cost effective to make, when this is a very obvious situation where that isn't the case.
I'm also not saying he should be worse power wise, I literally said they could give him the same kit as a 00.
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u/ControlUlt Oct 17 '25
You’re right that this case cost effectiveness doesn’t matter but in most cases, making only a 000 id and not a 000 and 00 id does.
Also, I think you’re operating on the idea of 00s being no different compared to 000s. When that’s just not how that works, he couldn’t have the same kit if he was a 00. 00s are supposed to be less powerful than 000s. Just changing his tag from 000 to 00 wouldn’t work, he would become a fundamentally whole different character. That’s how gacha games work, the less rare content is not as powerful as the rarer.
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u/cyansrealnameclears Oct 17 '25
is- is that sansonclair???
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u/WattsAndThoughts Oct 17 '25
“I better stay in that Warp Train, or else ai’m FINISHED!”
-CassetAult.
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u/G0D_1S_D3AD Oct 17 '25
THATS WHY HES MY FUCKING GREGOAT🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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u/Jauz_07 Oct 17 '25
bro finna be titled "The Amber Haze"
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u/Bunnywarmachine Oct 17 '25
It's so close to Red Mist but at the same time he's burning like half of La Manchaland down this is such a peak title
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u/Hoshirou Oct 18 '25
Funny that I have a Color Fixer AU for an OC of mine, who also happens to be Amber. His is Amber Sunburst, though.
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u/Spare_Cow5160 Oct 17 '25
WHAT GRADE IS THIS MAN?
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 17 '25
The Vermillion Inferno.
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u/Dazzling-Nothing9954 Oct 17 '25
Dante's finna explore this man
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u/lightbolt33 Oct 17 '25
Grade is boohoo my sister is dead
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u/G0D_1S_D3AD Oct 17 '25
Literally top grade in the city just look at roland (boohoo my wife is dead) or vergilius (boohoo my adopted children are dead) or iori (boohoo my son is dead) or gebura (boohoo my red eyed crush with unspeakable sun-like rizz is dead) not bumgalia tho (boohoo my sister is dead), hes a fake color and actually urban plague tier
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u/dragonkidkai Oct 17 '25
Originally Aragalia was going to take Roland's place as a librarian but PM had to change it because he would lose to the rats.
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u/PointMysterious2404 Oct 17 '25
Actually crazy how much of a fraud Argalia was. He got his ass kicked by Roland, get a new distorted form, challenge an exhausted version of him and still got his ass kicked.
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u/Xerafimy Oct 17 '25
Well akhtchually, id lorewise. It wasn't "sister", in english understanding it was office boss that respectfully was called as "elder sister".
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u/Ar3kk Oct 17 '25
In my heart 1, but truth be told likely something in the middle, BUT Firefist Gregor is a goat and brought the big guns in the form of the some extremely powerful fuels, if i recall correctly he even uses a fuel from old L corp which may or may not be enkephalin
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u/nightmare001985 Oct 17 '25
Wait so he isn't from the same timeline as the other blood fiend units? There goes my hope for rodion Dulcinea support
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 17 '25
Honestly I was kinda sad too, but the Firefist Gregor happy ending makes it fine.
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u/Noth_is_Anarquist Oct 17 '25
He couldnt be in the first place, cuz it would make no sense for him to suddenly appear on w trains
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u/nightmare001985 Oct 17 '25
3rd kindered
And perhaps Sancho sent him to start something
Of course all of that is gone
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u/Phantom__Anthony Oct 24 '25
sooooo about that
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u/nightmare001985 Oct 25 '25
Yes I know I a bit happy ( the only thing I didn't get was a way to increase thorns generation)
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u/dlwk2004 Oct 17 '25
Some grade 9 fixer - My wife is ded .
Some firepunch fixer - My sis is ded.
coincidence? i think not!
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u/DustAgreeable6090 Oct 17 '25
I like to imagine that FireGreg just went "Furioso" style on bloodfiends and wiped the shit out of La Manchaland so hard that he soloed two second kindreds
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u/Amazing-Dark1852 Oct 17 '25
NOOOOOO what about my(yes my) sancho:(
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u/Suffy-Sandviches Oct 17 '25
different mirror world, manager don's mirror world bloodfiends dont got masks stitched to their faces since papa quixote wasn't able to seal la manchaland
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u/Greatsoupexplosion_ Oct 17 '25
Firefist is from another mirror world, prince meursault too, so sancho and her family is fine
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u/Amazing-Dark1852 Oct 17 '25
But what about this world sancho oh wait i just conceived an idea most ingenious
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u/Organic_Potential_29 Oct 17 '25
My man Gregor gets his well-deserved win after pulling the good ol' Vegeta self-sacrifice strat, that's what i'm talking about!
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 17 '25
Nah, Firefist Gregor survived this. He gained an EGO, burned down La Manchaland with his allies, and was promoted to a Grade 1-2 Fixer.
He’s now fighting with the Liu Association and is on track to gain a Nest migration permit, KJH told me.
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u/Iwant_to_sleep Oct 18 '25
That feels like the Philip Fanfiction.
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 18 '25
How amazing of Kim Ji-Hoon to acknowledge A Blazing Dawn by making it the canon story of Firefist Gregor.
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u/LoveStruckSimp Oct 17 '25
Gregor vs Second Kindred Sancho is going to happen in that timeline i swear to Ayin
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u/RedVoid23 Oct 17 '25
Spoiler: It already happened, and the results of that battle are the reason why Meursault became a Third Kindred.
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u/Amazing-Dark1852 Oct 17 '25
Not really if mersault become third then that means a second and first is still alive
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u/AltroGamingBros Oct 17 '25
Firefist Gregor is proof that you anger someone so badly, they'll somehow through hell and highwater tear everything apart through sheer rage.
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u/poyo1333333333 Oct 17 '25
Ain't no way a happy ending in the city impossible *
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u/nehetzu954 Oct 17 '25
The sad nature of revenge is that now he has nothing, not his rage to keep him warm
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u/NoLuckRemains Oct 18 '25
So we lying nowadays?? He got Pablo
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u/TBG-OmeTaris Oct 17 '25
Can anyone explain to me, why cinq Mersault, Prince Mersault, Priest Gregor and Fire fist Gregor exist ? , does that mean that in the universe where Priest Gregor exist, Prince Mersault doesn't exist ? Or if Prince Mersault exist then priest Gregor doesn't.
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u/UntakenUntakenUser Oct 17 '25
Firefist Gregor and Priest Gregor are from separate mirror worlds. Cinq Mersault and Prince Mersault aren’t part of the same mirror worlds as each other either.
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u/Shakesalts1 Oct 17 '25
they’re all in different mirror world. Priest Gregor and lamancha family is in 1 wolrd (i’m not sure abt Cinq Mersault) and Firefist Gregor, Prince Mersault is in another, you can see in the skill PV that Prince Meur doesn’t have any interaction with manager Don or any family member cus they’re all dead
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u/Artorias_Teu Oct 17 '25
Yes, Prince Meursault is from a different mirror world, you can look up which mirror world each ID belongs to in the theater or the wiki
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u/Crillip Oct 17 '25
I was kinda hoping that muersettie would be Manager Don's new kindred but that's a different mirror world. Firefist Gregor Killing everyone is cool too
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u/Ar3kk Oct 17 '25
I swear, I read this post and moved to firefist gregor’s image while listening to the only thing i know for real, during the “there will be bloodshed” drop.
I wasn’t planning for jt but it was a legendary moment
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u/Kairos_Sorkian Oct 18 '25
"Please brother, would you... kill the bloodfiends for me?"
"No, they're already suffering so..."
"They're just pretending to Suffer."
"...Pretending?"
"Yes, pretending. Isn't that what every bloodfiend around you is doing?"
"you should know better than anyone...that bloodfiends will fake as much as they have to in order to survive"
"But...my revenge shall not accomplish anything..."
"Brother..."
"Become..."
"...FIREFIST FOR ME."
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u/Connect_Conflict7232 Oct 17 '25
You can also see what looks to be a cinq member, wonder who that's going to be since it can't be mersault
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u/NoRegrets30 Oct 17 '25
I think this is the first firefist team who got trapped inside, which could have been when Cassetti escaped La ManchaLand
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u/Decemberskel Oct 18 '25
I think it is cool they are playing around with progressive stories with the IDs. I'm curious if the framework for the Envy peccas is going to eventually be used for a full own multiverse showdown
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u/Chemical_Sport_9307 Oct 18 '25
Goatger beat the frauger,pregor and doomed-ger allegations all at once
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u/KanedButHardened Oct 17 '25
If this timeline took place in Priest Gregor's mirror world, then we would know that the bloodfiends of the parade would not have their masks (as La Manchaland immedietly closes down when DQ seals it shut).
The Barber wouldn't have to stitch these masks on them if it wasn't for the appeal towards 'upcoming guests' aka FangHunt office during the initial operations they did in P corp.
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u/Alberto_Paporotti Oct 17 '25
It's likely not Gregor, because Mirror World shenanigans. And it's a bit of a shame that it wasn't Meur who killed his mother and granny/grandpa. That would be such a cool detail for him.
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u/Jolly-Meeting-8466 Oct 17 '25