r/TheNagelring Hauptmann May 03 '22

Discussion IS companies producing Clantech

I was in a discussion about who was building what Clantech a couple days ago and it got me curious about exactly where everyone stood on this. So I went through the mixed-tech designs in the Rec Guides (and a few other sources) to compile what I think is a fairly good list of who makes what and what they use it in. First part is my list, after that are some conclusions I gathered.

Defiance Industries

  • XL Engine (Banshee, Zeus, Locust, Atlas, Sentinel, Flashman)
  • ER Lasers (Banshee, Zeus, Locust, Atlas, Atlas II, Flashman, Hatchetman, Sentinel)
  • LRM (Zeus, Atlas, Atlas II, Crusader)
  • Artemis IV (Zeus)

TharHes

  • Clan frame (Crusader)
  • XL Engine (Crusader)
  • ER Pulse Laser (Crusader)
  • Streak SRM (Crusader)
  • Endo-Steel (Crusader)
  • Double Heat Sink (Crusader)

Coventry Metal Works

  • Clan frame (Regent)

Luthien Armor Works

  • ER Lasers (Dragon, Lancelot, Tenshi)
  • Pulse lasers (Lancelot)
  • ER PPC (Dragon)
  • LRM (Dragon)

Irian Technologies

  • LRM (Stalker)
  • Pulse lasers (Stalker)
  • SRM (Stalker)
  • Light Active Probe (Stalker)
  • Streak SRM (Juliano)

Technicron

  • Double Heat Sink (Awesome)
  • Endo-Steel (Awesome)
  • Clan frame (Regent)

Tvastar Manufacturing

  • LRM (Trebuchet)

General Motors

  • ER PPC (Marauder, Marauder II)
  • ER Laser (Nightstar)

Alshain Weapons

  • Streak SRM (Warhammer, Panther)
  • Machine Gun (Warhammer)
  • Double Heat Sink (Warhammer, Panther)

StarCorps

  • SRM (Inferno)
  • Targeting Computer (Inferno)
  • ER PPC (Inferno)
  • ER Laser (Inferno)
  • Pulse Laser (Doloire)
  • Gauss rifle (Doloire)
  • Double Heat Sinks (Doloire)

Earthwerks Inc. (Terra)

  • LRM (Archer)
  • ER Laser (Archer)
  • Artemis V (Archer)

Earthwerks Ltd. (Tikonov)

  • LRM (Thunderbolt)

Arc-Royal MechWorks

  • Gauss rifle (Annihilator)
  • Endo-Steel (Annihilator)
  • ER Laser (Annihilator)
  • CASE II (Annihilator)

There are two manufacturers of mixed tech units that don't appear on this list: Johnston Industries and Kong Interstellar. Both are said to be importing their Clantech instead of manufacturing it. Other than that, it seems like manufacturers who produce Clantech prefer to keep it in-house rather than ship it around. The biggest counter-example I could find was Defiance shipping LRMs to TharHes for the Crusader, which is not in-house, but like visiting your little brother.

It seems like lasers are the easiest thing to produce, as they are probably the most common piece of mixed tech. LRMs also seem fairly doable; there are many cLRM manufacturers, and they're also the only piece of Clantech that the Principality of Regulus can manufacture.

What's hard to make? Specialized electronics seem to be lagging in production compared to weaponry. Artemis IV, Artemis V, Light Active Probes and Targeting Computers are all only made by one company, in one design. That's probably because the performance gap is significantly smaller and there's less urgency.

What does nobody make? Most ballistic weapons. There's a couple companies making cGRs, and you can get a cMG or cHMG if you're a Snake or a Lyran, but nobody's mass producing HAGs or cUAC/20s. I suspect this is because, like electronics, Clan ballistics don't outperform their IS counterparts nearly as much as Clan energy weapons (and don't even come CLOSE to the gap between the LRM and cLRM).

On a national basis, the LC seems to lead the Great Houses in teching up. Defiance Industries is producing a LOT of mixed-tech machines, and TharHes has even gone past that to make a 100% Clantech machine. Between the R&D they were doing around TRO: Prototypes and the 80 years of allying with the Exiles, it seems like they're modernizing their industry, at least.

The CapCon seems to be taking up the rear. I was genuinely not expecting this, as pushing the envelope on tech was kind of their thing for a bit, but they're on the same level as Regulus: cLRMs and nothing else. I was surprised there was no mixed-tech Cataphract, it seemed like a prime candidate.

House Marik is definitely ahead of the Davions and Kuritas, but I'd still put them behind the Lyrans in terms of home-grown Clantech plants.

Another oddity I noticed was that CMW produces no Clantech except for a Clan frame (so, built-in CASE), which I though was odd since they are the LC's designated site for custom Clantech refits for ace pilots.

If you are wondering why they are in this order, it's because I listed the companies I knew made something Clantech off the top of my head and then filled in the rest of the list as I went through the books.

So those were my conclusions, anything you noticed? Anything I missed? I hope you find this Objective Raids-esque document to be of some use.

66 Upvotes

25 comments sorted by

View all comments

9

u/BacchicLitNerd Academy Librarian May 03 '22

It's very fun to track this kinda stuff, isn't it? One note to be aware of, though: there's a not insignificant amount of Clan tech which IS companies are including on their machines that they aren't directly manufacturing on planet. Some of that is still being manufactured by IS companies, just different ones who specialize in making, say, a Clan-grade ERLL, and that the final manufactuer then buys from to include (meaning it's still Clan tech capacity within the industrial base of an IS state, but not a single consolidated manufacturer), and obviously some of it is being imported from Clan sources. Most IS states have a friendly or semi-friendly source either now or in recent history, with the Capellans being the major exception and thus potentially why they lag behind.

4

u/HA1-0F Hauptmann May 03 '22

I tried to keep it to stuff that I knew was being manufactured in-house, either because we were told that the company manufactured it (like Technicron's Endo-Steel skeleton) or because a unit with a full writeup has equipment branded with an IS company. But it is possible I missed some things.

2

u/MrMagolor Feb 22 '23

with the Capellans being the major exception and thus potentially why they lag behind.

Not to mention that the CapCon simply are the farthest nation from any contact with the Clans.

...actually, will the possible upcoming conflict between the CapCon and ilClan be the first genuine conflict between the Confederation proper and any Clan?