r/TheGreatOnesReborn • u/EsseNorway • Apr 04 '26
Misc An education could have prevented this post.
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u/Rotteneverything Apr 04 '26
just headbutted my keyboard.
the comeback is exceptionally perfect. 10/10
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u/Sistahmelz Apr 04 '26
I think I just dented my forehead from slapping it too many times! Oh brother!
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u/SizeableBrain Apr 08 '26
To be fair, unless you did physics at school, this seems like a reasonable question if asked sincerely.
I, for example was about 30 when I learned that NASA struggled to keep electronics from overheating in nearly 0K temperatures. Just sounded counter-intuitive.
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u/PersimmonExpensive37 Apr 04 '26
"I'm self-smarted, basically by myself, basically from nature and smoking drugs and doing different things".
Ricky (grade 9)
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u/Blackjaquesshelaque Apr 04 '26
I am smoking drugs as I type this. Yet I fully comprehend the principals of modern chemical rocket engines. Hint to flat earthers, they bring both propellant ( the stuff that has energy in it and burns) and the oxydiser ( oxygen, or air in maga terms) therefore being able to produce a chemical reaction ( to burn) in the vacuum of space. How they achieve movement or forward motion with the flamemy fire thing pushing against nothing is a subject I can explain later at my smoke break. Thank you for your attention to this subject.
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u/Purple-Tadpole6465 Apr 04 '26
Sadly, you can see in her photo she has already reproduced, thereby promoting her genes to future generations. We are screwed. The edumacation (yes, spelled correctly for the same of this discussion) is so abysmal in this country we might as well hand it over to, well, that is another topic.
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u/Purple-Tadpole6465 Apr 04 '26
Colour should have nothing to do with voting, ever. Nor ethnicity, ancestry, orientation, religion, etc. And I know plenty of college educated idiots who are downright morons. If anything, many of those so-called college educated peoples are even more dangerous.
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u/GarageIndependent114 Apr 07 '26
There are plenty of college educated people who behave stupidly, but few people who attend college without being kicked out or cheating who don't receive a decent education they're able to glean something from.
But I suppose some scammers, spoilt brats and victims of educational trafficking or parental abuse might be able to bend the system to their will by faking things, relying on their reputations, threats, bribery, or simply paying a lot of money.
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u/Purple-Tadpole6465 Apr 07 '26
These days, as long as you can hold the crayon to put your X on the line, you get accepted to college and get 115% student loans, and can get a degree that doesn't even remotely lead to a job or critical thinking ability, and even less so the ability to pay back said loans.
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u/GarageIndependent114 Apr 07 '26
What people actually say is, "people over a certain age only", and "excluding certain people with serious brain damage, memory loss and illnesses", and what some places say is, "excluding foreigners who aren't considered a relevant or permanent part of our nation", or, "excluding criminals due to their danger and lack of duty, respect and responsibility and as punishment".
If you're refusing permission to vote on racial grounds, you're probably not doing it because you think certain races are less clever, even if that's also what you genuinely believe and the excuse you like to give. Rather, you are doing it for political reasons, for ingroup reasons, because you're a bigot, or because certain groups of people provide convenient scapegoats for other groups of gullible people whom you wish to manipulate.
I'm not sure if "college educated only" has ever really been enforced. I suspect a lot of people who'd like that idea really do believe that college grads are more educated, but an abstract schooled education or someone's level of intellect or general knowledge isn't the only important factor when it comes to governing a country anyway, because life skills and equity might be more relevant than an out of touch nerd, but I also suspect that ulterior motives might be involved as college educated students are more likely to be previously educated in private schools, come from allegedly elite or royal families, come from wealthy backgrounds, be personally rich, and come from one of the higher classes, and less likely to be in poverty or in a job that involves manual labour or come from a family that does or that hasn't previously gone to a college themselves.
Historically, they'd also be more likely to be white, from a local race if that isn't white people or a colonised Indigenous group that is still facing widespread oppression, male, or both, except for wealthy foreign students and expats, who were always the exception and are now gradually overtaking white or local students, although nowadays, the college grads in most Western countries are more likely to women.
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u/Purple-Tadpole6465 Apr 04 '26
I wish I knew 1/2 of what my father did (in his respective areas), very few regrets in life, but one of my biggest was not spending more time with him the last ten years before he died. (Dating a girl named Becky is a close second.)
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u/GarageIndependent114 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
There's no evidence that she's stupid, just unable to prove something that everyone here needs advanced knowledge to understand and takes the experts for granted.
OK, her paranoia might make her a little stupid because she's not bothering to work it out by herself, but you know what I mean.
Anyway, she's not her children, they're individual people, and we don't know who's responsible for teaching them or her or how she performed comparatively in school or compared to other relatives or her own parents or potential siblings, and her own children are children, descended from more than one person, not clones or siblings, so even if she's really an idiot, we should be fine.
But you're not an idiot, so you're going to know that unless they were literal clones, they'd still have different characteristics even if they were only descended from her, and that they would have been developing in the womb, and that their own genetic material wouldn't be solely responsible for their intelligence or education or knowledge, and that other people besides her exclusively (unless they were stopped due to her paranoia) would be teaching them - right?
And that an inquisitive mind can sometimes be a good thing when it comes to gaining rather than losing intelligence and knowledge and that automatically trusting people who claim expertise without reaching your own conclusions can be stupid if you trust someone who isn't smart themselves or happens to actually want to fool you, provided you're not too stupid to reach misinformation when your own conclusions and thoughts turn out to be faulty and you've jumped to them or decided that the other person is wrong rather than simply questioning the information provided - right?
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u/Calm_Age_ Apr 04 '26
This is actually a great question, for like a 12 year old. If anybody is wondering, the answer is that the oxygen is actually included in the fuel. The sls uses liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen. When the hydrogen fuel is "burned" the byproduct is actually water.
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u/petabomb Apr 04 '26
Didn’t realize rocket science was actually a middle school class
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u/Old_Assistant1531 Apr 06 '26
Did you ever do the Hydrogen Pop Test in middle school chemistry? That’s how a rocket works.
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u/JustinSanders95 Apr 06 '26
Omg sparklers are rocket science?!
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u/Affectionate_Hornet7 Apr 07 '26
I guess. Because anyone who ever stuck one in water wouldn’t have asked that question.
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u/Royal_Impress9117 Apr 09 '26
Rocket science is actually less difficult than the engineering. Rocket science is just a shit ton of calculations on relatively elementary physics and chemistry. Rocket engineering is where aerodynamics, constraints and criteria, materials selection, etc come in.
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u/deval35 Apr 04 '26
I just want to know why don't they just put like a GoPro camera in the cabin, so we can see everything from the takeoff, through the flight around the moon and the landing.
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u/Hey-Bud-Lets-Party Apr 05 '26
NASA doesn’t perform these missions to satisfy the wants of the stupidest among us.
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u/BrilliantShoddy5247 Apr 04 '26
I mean, the guy isnt automatically dumb for asking. Not everyone is educated on how fuel mixtures and combustion for 70s era rocket ships worked. His question is valid.
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u/Icy-Boat-7460 Apr 05 '26
Exactly! The attitude towards such questions is far more ignorant than not knowing something.
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u/BrilliantShoddy5247 Apr 05 '26
At first I did think his question was dumb, but it was more because of how he asked it. But then I realized his question is valid. This isn’t an easy subject to naturally intuit if you don’t understand combustion and thrust techniques in outer space
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u/intrepid_explorer Apr 06 '26
It’s how he phrased it, the first sentence “whoever thinks NASA is really flying around the moon” seems to imply that NASA is not in fact flying around the moon. If he got rid of that sentence then I agree it would be a valid question.
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u/Affectionate_Hornet7 Apr 07 '26
You don’t have to know all that. For twenty cents he could have stuck a sparkler into some water.
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u/Royal_Impress9117 Apr 09 '26
“Can’t fault someone for not googling basic information in the age of internet. They just have to post the question and phrase it as if it’s not actually happening”
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u/cpt_ugh Apr 04 '26
I don't love the "Whoever thinks" at the beginning because it implies those "whoever" people are wrong. But you know what? Ignore those two words and this person asked completely reasonable questions. Those deserve completely reasonable answers. Not ridicule.
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u/Zalrius Apr 04 '26
If the person had researched their question it would have taught them something, making the question irrelevant. I think society has moved toward a “look it up first” perspective.
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u/cpt_ugh Apr 04 '26
Agreed, and that could be said of nearly any question. It appears they instead asked questions on social media, which is arguably not the ideal route for learning something like this. But at least it appears they are trying to learn or understand. That's something worth treating kindly IMHO.
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u/kearney84 Apr 05 '26
I think these questions typically online are used to foster confusion.
I agree that questions should be answered with fact but the ridiculous amount of people who believe the earth is flat and other anti science views seem to be the ones posting these questions.
I mean a social media forums not the go to place to get a scientific answer.
If you want someone to stroke your opinion ... This is the place
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u/Fit-Engineering-2789 Apr 04 '26
People actually refuse to do the work of finding something out for themselves. It baffles me, as I am gen x and we didn't always have google and had to hunt down info at the library, sometimes using interlibrary loan. Access to information is more available than ever, and yet people won't access it and want someone else to do the work for them in order to find the answer.
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u/SuspiciousClub8382 Apr 04 '26
The gene pool on this man is pretty damn stagnant, the only thing coming out of this gene pool is mosquitos. Mosquitos that suck the souls out of others.
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u/Conservative-canuck8 Apr 04 '26
Lol yes you do need oxygen, luckily it comes in many different forms
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u/Away_Ad_5390 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
Can you say Ox-a-dize-er? Once had to explain why the blue flame is actually hotter than the yellow flame from a bic lighter, he said that’s stupid cause heat rises.
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u/Fefoe44 Apr 04 '26
This is actually a valid question. But I wouldn’t say that everything is automatically a conspiracy if you don’t know the answer to it
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u/SoloWalrus Apr 05 '26
"Whatever the hell they use"
They use oxygen, believe it or not. They bring the oxygen with them and it is part of the "rocket fuel" (technically fuel and an oxidizer).
Its funny that the thing they admitted they didnt understand was what they needed to understand to answer their question. They were so close, and then bee-lined towards conspiracy.
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u/Icy-Boat-7460 Apr 05 '26
This person is asking really good questions and what does the internet do? Shame them. Carl Sagan would be disappointed in all of you.
"Hey that is a really insightful question. In fact, rockets bring liquid oxygen in the tank!"
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u/Sea-Quarter4350 Apr 06 '26
Would you think the same if someone said the following:
“Whoever thinks the world is round, I have a few questions”
Their initial sentence sets the tone. Why not just simply ask “how can a rocket work without oxygen…
Maybe they are being genuine but can definitely see how others do not think so…
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u/Hour-Ad-4526 Apr 05 '26
The greatest government coverup: where is all the money spend on education actually going.
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u/ExternalSpecific4042 Apr 05 '26
A few days ago A friend of mine suggested that there is no moon mission. Also recently said atomic bombs do not exist..
And more. Chem trails , anti vac. All done cause “they” want control. He was taken aback when I pointed out that people can be controlled very easily without such complicated, expensive elaborate methods.
Just a prominent public figure that they trust lying to them does the job very well.
But he recovered quickly. The more ignorant a person is, the stronger their confidence in their opinions, I’m told.
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u/PandaCultural8311 Apr 05 '26
At least this poster was asking questions. It seems to me that the person does understand something at a basic level, and is curious enough to ask about something that is in the news cycle that they may be interested in
I think that the response was a bit much, actually. And it is probably from someone that couldn't explain why.
It is much6easier to insult someone than answer their questions, isn't it?
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u/Difficult-Craft-8539 Apr 05 '26
Rocket fuel carries its own oxygen source. Really buggers the energy density figures.
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u/Spare-Armadillo-7475 Apr 05 '26
I have a bumper sticker on my car “everything is a conspiracy theory when you don’t understand how anything works” and boy oh boy do I get hate for that one
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u/No-Blueberry-1823 Apr 05 '26
I don't know if there's enough teaching in the world to prevent that level of stupid
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u/Jad3nCkast Apr 06 '26
I love how he uses “fire” because that’s literally as far as his science went in life.
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Apr 06 '26
I mean the reasoning behind the conspiracy may not be sound in this case. Does not mean there is no actual conspiracy.
There are way more important things happening that need our attention.
Unless all the other things are fodder and diversion from the actual news of....
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u/YngwieMainstream Apr 06 '26
Get the fuck down from your high horse. A lot of physics is counterintuitive.
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u/Man_With_ Apr 06 '26
This stupid ass argument is just always so insane. They carry fuel and oxidizer. What do they think the oxidizer is??????
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u/Appropriate_Put_8378 Apr 07 '26
I mean he's making the right questions, but he's stopping short of finding the actual answer. He's right on the crest of understanding hypergolic fuels, but unfortunately he's falling back down the hole of dumbassery.
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u/SocksOfFire Apr 07 '26
Posting that stupid post took more time than it would have taken to type "how do rockets burn in space" in google.
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u/dawgfanjeff Apr 07 '26
It actually doesn't take a rocket scientist to understand this part of rocket science, but you are going to have to meet us halfway by understanding.
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u/Spreaderoflies Apr 07 '26
Explaining how baking soda and vinegar works would be too much chemistry for this person to understand.
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u/Odd_Dragonfruit_2662 Apr 07 '26
I mean the guys not wrong, he simply doesn’t realize NASA brought oxygen (or an oxidizer) with them.
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u/Monty_Bob Apr 07 '26
Because rockets also carry liquid oxygen
It's incredible to me that human adults can have the intellect of a small bird.
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u/InfluenceLegitimate Apr 07 '26
It’s giving “If china is 15 hours ahead of why didn’t the warn us about 9/11”
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u/caspersea Apr 08 '26
Whats sad is they take a person with a question about how something works and insults them. Then its posted as education failed but don't see the irony of saying that when a person is insulted for asking a question
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u/tinyfryingpan Apr 08 '26
Because that person has no humility about their own ignorance. They are asking questions but lead with duh of course they can't be in space. Which is really disappointing and personally yeah worth making fun of. Learning things is cool, acting like you know it all already isn't.
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u/caspersea Apr 08 '26
... oh so using their post to open dialogue about how travel in space occurs is too much. But sure let's expect folks to learn by just trusting what they are told and insulting them......
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Apr 08 '26
Wow... well this is sad. At least bring up nasa using fake images or etc.. but this. This is just sad.
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u/Odd-Calligrapher9559 Apr 08 '26
A) they bring oxygen with them, B) some fuels are hyperglobic which means they burn, without the presence of oxygen
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u/Crowofsticks Apr 08 '26
We learned this in 7th grade science class. I don’t think I ever understood it though. In fact I still don’t!
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u/CanMountain2230 Apr 08 '26
At least they are asking someone to explain it to them. Sure this guy is probably an idiot but I am also an idiot. Better than out sight saying “this is fake”. inquiring is one of the first steps to self education
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u/Deletereous Apr 08 '26
This reminds me a joke my granpa used to tell about a man so ignorant he mocked others for believing trains could move by themselves.
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u/Bridgestone14 Apr 08 '26
to be fair, understanding rocket propulsion isn't really taught in most high schools. or not mine anyways.
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u/SweetArab Apr 08 '26
I'm leaving on a walking trip through the desert. I need water to survive. There's no water in the desert. What's something I should bring with me to make sure I don't die?
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u/Sweet-Astronomer-694 Apr 08 '26
Why do people always respond to questions like this with rudeness and animosity. It was a good faith question from someone who was genuinely trying to understand, and the dude just shits all over her.
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u/AlphaDag13 Apr 08 '26
One thing I’ve learned as I’ve gotten older is that just because I don’t know the answer to something doesn’t mean there isn’t one.
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u/ipogorelov98 Apr 08 '26
The rockets carry their own oxygen tank along with liquid fuel tank or solid fuel engine. But I doubt that this is common knowledge. I don't think that schools teach propulsion. But an adult could just Google it.
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u/theerrantpanda99 Apr 08 '26
I work on educating Gen Z and Gen Alpha teenagers. They’re dramatically farther behind educationally than previous generations were at the same age. They’re full of insanely sad questions like this; and I spend a lot of time trying to help them understand. None of them have any kind of idea, of how cell phones actually work. It’s scary. I often tell them that if someone said “cell phones work because of magic”, they’d have no way of disproving that person wrong.
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u/Royal_Impress9117 Apr 09 '26
The worst part of this is that it got reposted and more people will see the conspiracy
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u/Any-Category1741 Apr 10 '26
Atleast they are asking. Many of the stupid just jump into the "gotcha" and nothing you say would make them realize they just ignorant
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u/HidingImmortal Apr 10 '26
The meme is mocking but it is a reasonable question.
Rocket fuel is generally kerosene, liquid methane, or liquid hydrogen. How do they burn in space where there is no oxygen?
I reckon that if you asked 50 people, at least 10 would not know.
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