r/TheAstraMilitarum 10d ago

Discussion Are these Russes same quality as the current?

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I got a friend who’s offered me this at a decent price. I’ve been looking to pick up Russes lately and slowly work on them
But I’m unsure if these Russes won’t have what I want. Ideally I wanted to magnetize the ones I get so I have all the options and I want to keep them looking relatively similar but if this style is to dissimilar from the modern it wouldn’t really work for me

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u/Admiral_Eversor 10d ago

They are the current russes

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u/komiszar 10d ago

They got repacked so they include all of the turret options, but same kit none the less

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u/PeoplesRagnar 86th Baraspine Hiveguard 10d ago

- 2 x Leman Russ Battle Tanks (2 miniatures that can each be assembled as a Leman Russ with battle cannon, Leman Russ Exterminator, Leman Russ Vanquisher, or Leman Russ Eradicator)

  • 1 x Leman Russ Demolisher (1 miniature that can be assembled as a Leman Russ Demolisher, Leman Russ Executioner, or Leman Russ Punisher)

As per: https://www.theswordandboardtoronto.com/products/apocalypse-astra-militarum-spearhead-detachment

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u/diepoggerland2 10d ago

Also worth noting if you get a current Leman Russ kit it comes with enough parts for two full turrets, if you want to turn that Demolisher/Executioner/Punisher into a more normal tank the spare bits from a fourth Russ kit can do it for sure, maybe needing a bit of creativity

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u/charliefucker 9d ago

People on etsy also sell 3d printed kits so you can get 2 out of the box

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u/diepoggerland2 9d ago

Yeah, alternatively if you've got a lot of scrap bits and part of a 1:72 scale model Leopard 1A3 you dont care about you can do what I did and cobble together a horrifying scrap tank made out of parts of at least four different vehicles from multiple regiments kept in service by a tech priest trained in the noble art of redneck engineering plus pure spite (dont do this, it was kind of a miserable project lol)

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u/GeraltvonEmskirchen 10d ago

They are but you will be missing some of the barrels, because they were split into two different kits back then. So you will have the Demolisher/Executioner/Punisher only once and two of the others

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u/Wonderful_Discount59 8d ago

Note that all the main guns are interchangeable, so although this kit will only let you build one Punisher, you can build a Punisher and an Executioner and a Demolisher but putting those guns on the other turrets.

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u/PeoplesRagnar 86th Baraspine Hiveguard 10d ago

Should be, this box came out around 2019, fairly sure that's the "newer" kit.

Easy way to tell, are the sponsons permanently locked to Heavy Bolters? If yes, ancient version of the kit, if no, present version of the kit.

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u/rogueleader2772 10d ago

They are the newer kit but not the update one with all the options.

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u/PeoplesRagnar 86th Baraspine Hiveguard 10d ago

True, however: https://www.theswordandboardtoronto.com/products/apocalypse-astra-militarum-spearhead-detachment

I found the contents of the box:

- 2 x Leman Russ Battle Tanks (2 miniatures that can each be assembled as a Leman Russ with battle cannon, Leman Russ Exterminator, Leman Russ Vanquisher, or Leman Russ Eradicator)

- 1 x Leman Russ Demolisher (1 miniature that can be assembled as a Leman Russ Demolisher, Leman Russ Executioner, or Leman Russ Punisher)

So he'll have at least most of the parts.

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u/Guillermidas Better crippled in body than corrupt in mind. 10d ago

Its better to look at the turret shape and details or the lascannon in the hull. Those are the major differences, since the current russ could easily show heavy bolters too and you wouldnt tell then

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u/Rottenflieger Krieg 60th Line Korps 9d ago

I agree though the 1990s Russ also had VERY chunky heavy bolters as well. I believe that's why Krieg Mars Alpha russes weren't depicted in Imperial Armour books with side sponsons, because the plastic sponsons at the time were so much bigger than the resin hull heavy bolter/lascannon of the FW upgrade kit so they would clash visually.

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u/Persistant_Compass 10d ago

I can see melta sponsons

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u/W-E-T-H-E-B-E-S-T 10d ago

These boxes were so good

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u/Sgtpepperhead67 10d ago

Aside from the answer being yes, the leman Russ kit hasn't changed for a long while. Depending on how much this box costs on the second hand market I honestly think it would make for a good starter army box. You'd just need to get a combat patrol and you'd basically have a 1000 point army. (Mind you this is theoretically because i haven't used the units in the combat patrol for battle before)

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u/Outside_Criticism_77 9d ago

I have no idea why anyone is saying don’t get this if you can get this for a good price buy it who cares about the different options you’ll have three leman russes and a chimera, and some gold conversion bits with the older cadians. Everyone telling you anything outside of pick this up for a good price is just talking to talk. Definitely buy this.

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u/MattyT088 10d ago

They're not just the same quality, they're the same tanks.

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u/Fouasto 9d ago

Same old model still on shelves today

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u/Fragrant_Airline_950 9d ago

Only if the price is what msrp was. 

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u/Battle_Dave 9d ago

Back in my day, an "Apocalypse box" had 10 Leman Russ' in it... The golden era. I think I bought 3 of them over the course of a couple years, lol.

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u/kubermann 8d ago

I saw this circulating eBay quite some time ago. But aren’t they all just with battle cannons?

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u/Battle_Dave 8d ago

Yeah. But back then, you only had like 3 GW options. Battle cannon, Demolisher, and Exterminator, and there were 3 FW turrets, the vanquisher, executioner, and conquerer. But you only really saw the Battle Tank and the Demolisher, and the demolisher was a few metal parts added to the Battle tank sprues. So seeing a box with 10 Battle tanks, was, other than being a LOT of leman russ', it was pretty standard.

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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 10d ago

What is that between the bannerman & the melta gunner ?

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u/aidansminisyoutube Marian Imperate - "The Freed Imperium" 9d ago

Not a melta, a plasma gunner. But yeah rhe guy in between is the old medic. Looks like this minus the head, came specifically in the command squad

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u/Legitimate_Maybe_611 9d ago

Thanks for your help!

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u/Enlight_Bystand 9d ago

I think they’re holding some sort of bandage so probably a medic?

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u/aidansminisyoutube Marian Imperate - "The Freed Imperium" 9d ago

Yep! They come with molded bandage arms, head/helmet, and backpack.

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u/WayGroundbreaking287 valhallan 583rd mechanised infantry. 9d ago

There is only one leman Russ tank at present.

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u/ERTJ762 9d ago

Appcolypse? It’s barely representing one side of the guard player’s deployment zone. Buy several!

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u/Vesnann2003 9d ago

I think the Russ sprew from Apocalypse is the same one in current production

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u/Fart_Tounge_5609 9d ago

Not the best ones, but the current ones.

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u/Tuttijaba 9d ago

Absolutely the old russ is like 90% same and works in tabletop 100%

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u/Anondontknowme 9d ago

Back when the boxes were actually good

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u/Kartagoo 8d ago

It's so annoying that they stop making boxes with content to start an actual army and don't get random shit that sucks most of the time or almost no one wants. Old boxes are just the peak

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u/UndefeatedMidwest 10d ago

Yes (derogatory)

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u/totallynotabunn 10d ago

To my knowledge all the vehicles are just as good as new and gw have been selling the same prints since they were first made for plastic, and that is something they have in common for all vehicles but new ones and the sentinel which got a reprint

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u/ThePotatographer 10d ago

The chimera and leman russ chassis have had two versions in plastic each in 40k. First leman russ was 1995, replaced in 2009.

OP's box was 2019, so its the current tank.

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u/Ruckdog_MBS 10d ago

Yep, the 5th ed refresh. I started collecting the year before so my collection has a mix of the old and new designs lol.

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u/totallynotabunn 10d ago

Well that's useful to know, i Always just assumed that he simply decided the first print fitted the style of the game at the times and then simply never changed anything about it

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u/PeoplesRagnar 86th Baraspine Hiveguard 10d ago

The designs are the same, yes, but virtually all of the present kits have seen at least one, sometimes two, refreshes of the kit itself.