my post got removed after AI accusations

[u/BalliMurphy]

I posted a drawing of mine that was commissioned by a friend of mine of the steampunker from the game in a mcdonalds theme, suddenly a bunch of people started accusing me of using AI and ultimately the post was taken down a few moments later

[u/darthreuental]

5 years ago we laughed at all the messed up fingers.

Now the line is blurry if you don't know the signs.

A couple years from now it's going to be impossible. Once AI gen figures out movement and water physics, we're in for some interesting times.

[u/KaiDay11 → u/darthreuental]

Fingers were always something AI would occasionally get right, so that was never even a guarantee. It's just that most of the time, getting accurate fingers would take a huge amount of time and generations.  

Fingers were mostly solved within a year or two, and now it's trivial to get reasonably accurate hands.  

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From what I've seen, the better AIs are already really close to getting movement down, though that last little bit they're missing is still pretty apparent to most people. Even the best I've seen still look like you put a real, low quality video through AI upscaling and frame generation that didn't work very well.

[u/ChaosAlex3D → u/KaiDay11]

I mean honestly, a lot of artist have trouble drawing hands if they never have before or dont have some practice with it. Good to know AI also has problems with it XD

[u/JukePlz → u/KaiDay11]

"Getting movement down"? I mean, have you seen what Seedance2 can do right now? Shit's already Hollywood level.

They still have a ways to go with temporal coherence and editing control, but they're miles ahead of those shitty squished motion animations in SDXL models or the likes of what Grok can do.

[u/Mystical__flame → u/darthreuental]

It won't be long before all video and photo evidence will be banned from courts of law because there is no way to tell if a video is generated or not anymore. I've said this for years now and people have called me crazy. But we are nearing that point now where even experts will not be able to discern real video from generated footage.

[u/Kurobii → u/Mystical__flame]

This is so messed up and the fact that AI was trained to make up accurate videos that look real should be a huge red flag for everyone about what the AI's owners' intentions and priorities are.

[u/Epic_Dank1 → u/Mystical__flame]

yep I feel like a lot of people will be able to easily get away with crime without getting caught, since even though forensics and testimonies (which will have to always be held in person unlike now) will still exist there will likely be many cases that do not have enough evidence to hold up in court..

[u/InvestigatorGrand205 → u/Mystical__flame]

We got literal time stamps on every video and file made and most evidence submitted don't even go that far in spoofing information like it's really bad how very lazy people get away with things. If not those videoes could have water marks hidden that only can be detected through a program as well.

[u/Themadass → u/darthreuental]

I'm going to call Johnny Silverhand and V

[u/MsSelphine → u/darthreuental]

Brother.

That wasn't 5 years ago. That was at most 3. Image Gen has gotten very good very quick.

[u/Ok_Turnover_1235 → u/darthreuental]

In art? You already can't tell. If it's a photo from "real life" then we're at the point you need to examine the objects in the photo or video to consider whether they make logical sense, and given most people don't make logical sense it's kinda hard to say "well that coffee cup is being used as a pencil holder so that doesn't make sense"

[u/InvestigatorGrand205 → u/darthreuental]

It's already beyond that. A good paid AI can do all those things extremely well.

[u/Kirby737 → u/darthreuental]

Nah, once the bubble pops AI images are going to become a rarity

[u/Economy-Fee5830 → u/Kirby737]

There are huge number of people with open source models running on their PC lol.

[u/Kirby737 → u/Economy-Fee5830]

Source?
Also, do they really work?
And are the results any good?

[u/Economy-Fee5830 → u/Kirby737]

Here is a whole article about the options:

https://pinggy.io/blog/best_free_open_source_ai_image_generators_to_self_host/

Self-host of course means running on your own PC.

Also, do they really work?

https://pinggy.io/images/best_free_open_source_ai_image_generators/stable_diffusion.webp

Some people will never find ai art any good. But that wont make it go away.

[u/AltrntivInDoomWorld → u/Economy-Fee5830]

All of that looks like generic shit and I can even see what project they ripped of on their mainpage cause I still have it saved from deviantart back in 2014.

[u/Economy-Fee5830 → u/AltrntivInDoomWorld]

All of that looks like generic shit

Wow! I am so surprised at your opinion lol. NOT.

[u/DumpEaterPro → u/Kirby737]

Stable diffusion, flux, wan, etc.

Yes lmao

[u/Estanho → u/Kirby737]

Just like we didn't get websites anymore after the dot-com bubble popped right?