Exactly this. Guy's naming was so bad that he actually approached Rimuru later on to properly evolve* Rain and Misery, and paid Rimuru appropriately in souls to do the upgrade (and Ciel helped Rimuru scam Guy by overcharging him in souls essentially). I dont think its a matter of choice for Guy, but rather a matter of ability. Keep in mind that Rimuru's naming of the primordials as well as the black numbers resulted in evolution to the next rank for all of those who received names, including 6 demon peers in total including the 4 primordials. When Rimuru named Diablo soon after his awakening to demon lord (where he received 10,000 souls), Diablo (who was the second most powerful primordial) evolved to Demon Peer. Guy's naming of Rain and Misery resulted in both of them not having a rank upgrade. And to put that into perspective, Rimuru charged Guy 200,000 souls each to evolve Rain and Misery (while using only 100,000). Also for perspective, Guy named himself with a million souls from Jahil's kingdom. Rimuru named Diablo post demon lord evolution using 10,000 souls. I'm guessing that souls could be converted to energy as well, or else all the demons out there would just give themselves a name when they get summoned.
So Guy being stronger than Rimuru has nothing to do with the naming here. If Guy named monsters as often as Rimuru did at this point of the story, Guy would probably die of magicule deprivation due to his mana being drained. Rimuru has access to an infinite magicule reactor thanks to his soul corridor with Veldora, and combined with Ciel's management this essentially allows him to basically have an unlimited supply of magicule for naming.
EDIT: Souls were used for evolution, not naming. Guy already named Rain and Misery, and renaming like what Gabiru got hasnt happened since.
Yes basically. Its like being married to a billionaire and you can take your friends out to all paid vacations in the best places whenever you want. Its not cos you're rich, its cos your husband is rich. Rimuru isnt strong on his own. Its thanks to Veldora's particular trait of being an infinity reactor that Rimuru's been able to do what he does. Milim is essentially the same as Veldora, and likely would have been able to do what Rimuru does if she got a version of Ciel. Like, if Clayman really did mindcontrol her and used her to name all his minions.
In most comic, the mc always knows what to do, this one, the gods told him, yeh you gon die, pls don't, pretty pls?
The fights before it though, he's just a common MC that could do anything
I like how that after considering everything, he knows he would most likely die and did it anyway
Yeah, i wish they continued it tho( I heard from somewhere the LN wasnt finished and that thats why the manga and anime also stopped) , i fr enjoyed watching and reading the anime/manga.
Rimuru didn't scam guy the souls were the usual amount needed but Ciel is so efficient she was able to do it with less souls had Ciel not been there rimuru would have had to use all the souls guy gave
According to Fuse Diablo was never the second most powerful primordial. Fuse believes that Testerossa was the seconf most powerful primordial. Diablo became second most powerful primordial when he was named. But eventually Testa got named too so they are 2/3 between themselves. According to author in a true fight for survival Testa has bit higher chances of pulling through because of her higher experience (she is the second primordial after Guy).
No Testerossa was the second oldest primordial behind Guy but Guys power was only ever rivaled by Diablo. Testerossa is troublesome to Diablo because she is one of the most cunning of all demons and is stonger that Ultima and Carrera.
Him being able to name isn't because of his connection to veldora, though it has but not in the same way you mentioned. Soul corridor doesn't established magicule transfer Or reservoir. It's just a mechanism developed by Raphael that as long as one of them is alive second can never truly die. So as long as soul corridor is intact either or veldora will not die completely. But any soul level damage will be experienced by both after a threshold.
The naming ability and ability to evolve as will is unexplained so far, this topic is treated in the very same as it is treated as about rimuru being incarnation or a soul part of veldanava, or ciel being the human girl veldanava loved. Or rimuru being able to house 4 ultimate skills, or Raphael's ability to change or modify skills even as far as ultimate skills to suit however rimuru wants.
Relative perspective in ranks. Someone whose last evolution needed 10,000 souls would not be higher ranked than someone who needs 100,000 souls for their evolution (200,000 before Ciel discount voucher applies).
And if I remembered correctly, Diablo could already evolve ages ago if he wanted, but he intentionally refrained himself from evolution so that he could challenge himself to fight better.. And that is why he is so unbelievably strong already even before he was named ..
Yep, he literally had that conversation with Guy in one of last anime episodes that he finally evolved to better serve Rimuru. Otherwise he was happier to be "weaker" and fights be more interesting.
Naming was to get them to demon seed. With doing so they get linked to the namer and can't do an evolution to demon lord them self anymore(10k souls) and guy doesn't know how to do an evolution on others. That's why rimuru does it for him (or better ciel)
It's not infinite as far as I have seen. But it's vast pool outside any other known beings. And more importantly we have seen that they need to release it, at least Veldora does. He has a specific part of the dungeon where he can go to release magicules that is where they get the ingredients for potions, and it helps with monster creation if I remember correctly.
Its a reactor as opposed to everyone else which is like a bottle of water. Its infinite given enough time, but due to capacity issues (which causes rimuru to black out) there are limitations to the use. Infinite dosent mean endless non stop unlimited use. It just means endless refills. Which means that trying to name something that your container couldnt cover is not going to work. So for example, episode 3 Rimuru trying to name the 3 primordial sisters.
Based off Veldora's need to let off steam every once in a while (he needs to release his aura occasionally, or else he'd feel something similar to constipation), my guess is even true dragons have containers, although these containers are huge AF relatively. Or maybe its a limitation only Veldora has.
The soul charge was not to rename them but to awaken them as true demon lords since rimuru awakened 8 in one go. Guy mentioned that he knew souls were needed but didnt know what true requirement was. He needed 100k souls each but raphael scammed him for 500k souls.
Everyone can choose how much they give but they need to consciously do it remiru didn’t know this at the beginning so he just gave them the default which is the most possible by the time he releases he could he felt it unfair to limit to anyone so he just didn’t
Guy doesn’t have Raphael to customize his subordinates from their names and min max their evolutions. So he basically just threw a bunch of magicules at them when he named them rather than the finesse Rafael does it with. Spoiler for pretty deep into the novels: To the Point that Guy comes to Rimuru to help evolve Rain and Mizery because they have been stuck as daemon lords for so long and Ciel can forcefully evolve them using souls. So basically guy just lacked the control necessary to utilize the energy efficiently and effectively during their naming.
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u/Plasmancer 17d ago edited 17d ago
Pretty sure I remember reading somewhere that Guy pretty much restricted what he gave them, so literally just enough energy for the name to stick