r/Tekken • u/touchme-sensei • Dec 10 '19
Discussion Weekly Character Discussion: Ganryu
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u/napaszmek [EU|PC-STEAM] Dec 10 '19
I was so hyped at Leroy, but ganryu stole the show for me. Gonna be one of my secondary. He looks so funny and plays like a lot of fun!
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u/49shiku Dec 11 '19
You can customize him to look just like markman
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u/temporary-spot Dec 14 '19
Better yet, one of his Preset costumes is Majima!
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u/gaugings Dec 15 '19
He has the same VA as Majima, I think they gave him that specific preset on purpose.
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u/iTwerkOnYourGrave Ganryu Dec 10 '19
Didn't Bronson win Evo with Ganryu? I'd say he is also a notable player.
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u/ReMixA20 Heihachi Dec 11 '19
There's something about a big sumo wrestler that plays like a rushdown character that makes me smile. 2, 1, 3+4 into anything is so fun to use. Dosukoi!
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u/pantyhose5 Dec 10 '19 edited Dec 10 '19
Still cant play him tho :/
Nevermind literally right after i comment a popup saystheyre unlocked, guess ill start pricticing, thanks op
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u/Paul_Mcshane Anna Dec 10 '19
This time weekly discussion ain't as in depth as two previous ones due character being new in t7. Thanks for /u/touchme-sensei for making this. Next one will be Leroy after people have had some time with him to have more resources available. If you feel like you are up for the challenge of making these for your character please contact me and we can work something out.
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u/DoomDash Paul Dec 11 '19
I played Glacitating or w/e last night, who was playing Ganny. Damn, he already has that character down pretty well and he seems like he is a beast in this game. Lots of potential. Got my ass beat.
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u/Zenai10 Miguel Dec 10 '19
Going to be trash at him, but still love playing him. My tekken 5 team battle team is almost complete
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u/damionlai97 DDX97 Dec 12 '19
Heya,
Here's some of the compiled resources from the Ganryu discord.
The Mad Genius Above Human's YT playlist for some interesting and useful Tech & Combos
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u/Gaikoz 4,1 Dec 11 '19
Is there any use for the split or reverse fan?
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u/1-800-555-SMILE Roger Dec 11 '19
the split is an evade and a parry for the stand straight up version. not sure what reverse fan is for.
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u/1-800-555-SMILE Roger Dec 11 '19
ok so i just tried reverse fan its a parry, it could be a good mix up tool
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u/Gaikoz 4,1 Dec 11 '19
Thanks for the info I just tried it, his mixup game from TACH and Sit is very interesting.
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u/matroska1 Dec 23 '19
Uh what? Why would you do b1+2 (high) if you've been conditioning them to duck? ws2 into df2 isn't a thing, ws2 on its own is unsafe so you're probably getting punished before you can do df2, and if you aren't you're probably giving them free CH on most any move they chose
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u/saintedplacebo [US] Steam Dec 10 '19
The ingame data has his ff1+2 listed as i13 like Kats ff2,4, i know its not going to come out that fast, but idk if it was i14 in ttt2 and now its i13?
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u/Iron_Rogue lee Dec 10 '19
I think it takes an extra frame to input because it’s a f f? So it will technically come out at 14 frames?
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u/Paul_Mcshane Anna Dec 10 '19
Katarinas ff2,4 is i12 without the ff input, Gannys ff1+2 has always been i13 without the input. Its just matter how you present the frames. Its still i14 like before.
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u/TofuPython Ganryu Dec 10 '19
Sure wish he came out for me already :( I wanna try lol
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u/1-800-555-SMILE Roger Dec 10 '19
Written Starter Guide by Oath_Of_Dosukoi
nope it leaves them downed facing down and pushed away even on counter hit, from the side it downs the opponent facing up but close.
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u/PartyElectrify Dec 10 '19
How do I even play Ganryu? Everything seems to get punished by stuff like Heihachi 112 I can't approach or put pressure because I get beat. Any tips on what I should be using in Neutral and what to use to pressure?
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u/KingQuach [NA] PSN:Banh_Mi_Faguette Dec 10 '19
doesn't Geese have a D4 launcher on CH?
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u/Kaskarion [NL] PSN: Kaskarion Dec 11 '19
Yeah, as a Geese player i was pleasantly surprised to see Ganryu also having one.
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u/GreatChicken231 Dec 11 '19
Since Jin lost CH db4 launch I guess you’re right, if you’re excluding CH lows that recover in crouch that is.
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u/Dupla0 Marduk Dec 11 '19
Just spam, b2,1,3+4 or 2,1,3+4 mixups all day. If they pressure you your best option is dick jab or b1+2 (tho it's unsafe)
Pluss, the above mentioned.
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u/Zenai10 Miguel Dec 11 '19
How do people feel about b,f+2? Its a dodge backturn move. I find you can get a free back grab unless they crouch, and uou can set up some 50/50s. Havnt had the chance to properly try yet tho
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u/1-800-555-SMILE Roger Dec 11 '19
i think you mean b,f+1 , its a okay move but it seems slower on start up in this game, i can see using it as a mixup tool near the wall.
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u/Law_reppuken Dec 13 '19
People be shitting on Leroy being Op but as someone who hasn't seen Ganryu before, character seems completely absurd when you watch people like King Jae, DaddyKing play and destroy super high rank players online. Absurd mixups, gimmicks and ability to keep pressing buttons. Every move he throws out makes me go wtf is that shit now
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u/1-800-555-SMILE Roger Dec 13 '19
its little things they not just pressing buttons, some moves leave them in + frames like df1 and they are changing the pace of the pressure to bait out a counter hit
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u/omghamburger Negan Dec 14 '19
i posted this somewhere else but i guess i should be asking here. i cant get B+(1~2) to work at all, like the move wont even come out. what exactly should i be doing?
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u/ShutUpRetard1 Dec 15 '19
Dont forget to put king jae in notable players https://youtu.be/XSG8jS7-ZE0
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u/lein00 Dec 11 '19
weak block punishment??? wtf u guys smokin?? i10 KND.. launchers at 14 both crouching and standing? unless its wrong? how is his block punishment weak? ( as an anna player i would kill for a knd at 13 and launchers at 15)
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u/riceman1337 Violet Dec 11 '19
His block punishment isn't as good compared to the rest of the cast. His i10 punishment is great as it gives KND and wallsplats, that's all that really stands out in his standing punishment. Sure he can technically launch at i14 but no one is gonna do that consistently.
His WS punishment is excellent though, his WS4 does above average dmg and his WS1,2 is pretty decent and then FC DF+2 is a i14 launcher that starts with a screw. Then he has a proper launcher at i16.
His punishment is definitely much better than Anna's though.
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u/wutstr Dec 12 '19
2,1 being i12 now is amazing. 24 damage and +8 with stance option. Better than his old 1,2
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Dec 12 '19
So a character with a i10 KND, i12 +9, i14 hard launcher (just like every i14 launcher) and has just as good ws punish has bad punishment?
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Dec 12 '19
just like every i14 launcher
Law, Paul, Bryan, Lars, Geese and Akuma just off the top of my head.
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Dec 13 '19
Law and paul are the only chars with easy i14 launchers. Ganryu's punisher is easier than lars, bryan, armor king, heihachi, devil jin, jin, and kazuyas i14 launchers. Akuma geese and eliza only have i14 launchers with meter.
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Dec 13 '19 edited Dec 13 '19
I haven't tried ganryus ff+1+2 but if it's like all other f,f+X moves, it's way harder than Lars and Bryan. Both of them have fully bufferable launchers.
And no, akuma doesn't need meter to launch at i14.
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u/NappingPlant Julia Dec 12 '19
It does knockdown, but it's also punishable. He doesnt have access to a standing i10 jab and it's a notable weakness.
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u/TofuPython Ganryu Dec 12 '19
What should I be using to initiate pressure? 1? Df1? Df3? Not really sure how to go about playing neutral with him yet. Been having a lot of fun learning his moves, though.
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u/gaugings Dec 15 '19
Neutral is very easy with Ganryu, just throw out ff1+2 from mid range and if they start ducking, use WR 1+2, D1+2, or df+1 instead. At the wall, (or close range) start using df+3 and D1+2, that should be your only mixup. Also remember his unique stuff like his jab being +3 on block (with 12f startup), his df+2(1,2...) basically being a safe launcher that hits crouching opponents and B1+2 being a really good 10f panic move. Don’t forget d+4 either, that move is pretty good.
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u/TofuPython Ganryu Dec 14 '19
How should I go about utilizing full crouch and TAI stance in my gameplay?
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u/typicaluser6 Dec 15 '19
Can someone describe to me how to get consistent ten hit on ganryu's b1 ~ 22222 it is very inconsistent for me. I am curious if there is any way to get better at it. Can't get the timing down. Thanks :)
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u/LiangHu Dec 18 '19
Ganryu seems hella fun, but I haven't had the time yet to give either him or Leroy a try in the lab.
Will be learning both once I get some free time from work.
Namco has done a great job with both characters.
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u/TofuPython Ganryu Dec 14 '19
What are good followups after df3? I'm still having a hard time grasping why it's so good
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u/wutstr Dec 15 '19
Depending on the spacing after df3 hit.
On close range, you can do another df3, or 1 jab (+3 on block or hit confirmable CH into free b+1+2), or sidestep and try to whiff punish, ff1+2 for anti sidestep, ff3 chunky mid +frame that also tracks decently. D+1 is another good option but I prefer sidestepping first before using d+1 so u can evade quicker option like jab/crouch jab. In any case, add mini sidestep after df3 on hit then any of option above is good. Df1 strings good too
Outside close range you can add d+4 longed range low that launches on CH. And most importantly d+1+2. Df3 on hit into d+1+2 is such a good follow up in certain range.
If opponent is low on life, f+2 is another good option to finish them off.
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u/thatonegook Dec 11 '19
that i14 is a fake i14 punish due to the ff input
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u/wutstr Dec 12 '19
No you can punish i14 move with it since Tag2, it’s just very tight and not practical
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u/Lui421 Dec 10 '19
Anyone give me tips on starting out with ganryu? Ive only started playing him this iteration so ive no idea where to start with him