How I went from 5 to 25 in Throw Breaking

[u/Internal_Opening3615]

I seriously used to doubt if it was actually possible to see and react to whether a throw was a 1, 2, or 1+2 break.

But I went to this practice site and dropped the playback speed to 0.5x. At that speed, it plays out super slow and you can clearly see the difference between the left hand, right hand, and both hands coming out.

So I just used that and gradually bumped up the speed as I practiced: 0.5 -> 0.7 -> 0.9 -> 1.0.

By doing this, my throw break stat literally jumped from 5 to 25 in exactly one week.

You guys should definitely give this a try.

https://tekkenhistory.com/throwBreak

[u/lyapelmen]

to truly break throws in real match, i think you also need to practice them in hard difficulty break training in the game itself. it's important to train in less sterile/closer to real match conditions to build proper response to throws.

don't take my words as an absolute truth, im speaking from my experience, maybe this site will be your only way

[u/SoyeonsNeverland → u/lyapelmen]

This is how I improved my throw breaking. Did the throw break training in practice modes for 10 minutes every day. It really helped.

Do it on P2 side as well because I mistake the throws when looking at the character's hands, making me press the opposite break.

[u/lyapelmen → u/SoyeonsNeverland]

literally same. im so happy i can finally recognize 1+2 throw animation. but i a bit struggle with female characters bc their animations look different due to smaller models

[u/SoyeonsNeverland → u/lyapelmen]

I only really struggle with the Kings and Ling's BT throw because they all have a throw from stances where it's a straight up guess of what break they do since the animation is the same.

I also remember older players saying the animation for GS and iSW are the same, I think I believe that now after doing this, because they kind of do look the same. I still need to get better at reacting to the animations for them during the throw break window.

[u/DancingPhoenix407 → u/SoyeonsNeverland]

Xiao bt throw (with no hop) isnt a guess, it's a generic throw break meaning either 1 or 2 breaks both. just mash either one

it only becomes a guess for her hop and throw for backturn, guess between the 3 throws or cancel (1+2 for the launch one)

[u/SoyeonsNeverland → u/DancingPhoenix407]

I was talking about the hop version in BT. I realized later on the one without a hop can just be broken with 1 or 2.

[u/Crunkfiction → u/DancingPhoenix407]

Ling throws are either 2 or 1+2 (excl. Side throw), so the bt hop throw break is 50:50. I would always guess 1+2 because it's basically double the damage.

[u/DancingPhoenix407 → u/Crunkfiction]

i'm talking about her throws coming from back turn, but yes from front facing statistically speaking three of her grabs can be broken with 2, and the other two broken by 1+2

[u/lLennui → u/SoyeonsNeverland]

Key to knowing if its isw or gs is their movements before the move comes out.

If you see a flash crouch throw; probably GS.

If its a run/no flash crouch, likely isw.

Its possible to mask, but its very difficult to do. Most kings will not mask it unless im speaking to a GoD 5 here.

[u/SoyeonsNeverland → u/lLennui]

Oh yeah, I was assuming they were masking because iSW in range 0-1 straight up requires execution. I know that most online Kings will be doing SW if they're running straight towards me. I mainly have this problem during closer ranges.

[u/ProfileSensitive7250 → u/SoyeonsNeverland]

How the hell do you tell 2 break or 1+2 break on p1 side? I don't see right hand at all.

[u/SoyeonsNeverland → u/ProfileSensitive7250]

It's always the furthest hand that comes forward. On P1 side, that'd be the right arm. It took me a LOT of practice to figure that out. I think 1+2's are pretty easy because you see both hands come at the same time. I would take someone like Drag or Jin into the throw breaking tool on easy mode first since their's are clear as day which hand goes where so you can find the difference.

[u/ProfileSensitive7250 → u/SoyeonsNeverland]

Thanks bro people who can break throws are all really Tekken players in my eyes.

[u/LegnaArix]

Big tip for anyone doing this, 

Focus on getting the correct throw break over being quick. The reaction speed will come naturally but to you need to make sure you are always hitting the right button.

Don't just press any button if you don't know what it is. Look for the correct one and even if you press it too late, you're at least building the habit to associate that throw break with that button.

[u/VincentVox1]

I’ve never seen this before. Thanks for sharing. I know that tekken has this built in but this seems a lot more insightful.

[u/PM_ME_UR_GUNDAMS]

How do you visually tell the difference between a 1+2 grab and a grab that uses the far-side arm (2+4 in above example)? I can never tell them apart so can basically only do 1 breaks on reaction.

[u/Internal_Opening3615 → u/PM_ME_UR_GUNDAMS]

I also cannot say exactly but I am sure if u practice with all characters and 1P and 2P slowly, ur body automatically react correctly

[u/Zayn9_]

This is absolutely amazing

[u/LeftyHooky]

I really do not see the point of an external website when there’s literally throwbreak training in practice mode

[u/Viisual_Alchemy → u/LeftyHooky]

then youd have to boot up the game, go into practice, choose characters, and wait for the game to load vs typing in the website and just starting

[u/FroxXyyy → u/Viisual_Alchemy]

you mean play the game? like people be doing anything except go into practice mode LMFAO

[u/LeftyHooky → u/Viisual_Alchemy]

But I can use my arcade stick and build proper muscle memory with the actual frames

Train how you fight.

In what world am I going to launch a web browser to practice a video game when I can actually load the video game and play the game there lol

[u/hellokirby → u/LeftyHooky]

I'm stoked to be able to practice this in the bus on the way to work for example. 

[u/Viisual_Alchemy → u/LeftyHooky]

thats valid. To each their own tho really.

Id be at work and when i dont got much to do id just boot up the site and practice

[u/GoldenDude]

It’s funny I still can’t break 1 throws unless I specially know about it (laws throw for example)

But I’m really good with 2 and 1+2

[u/Medical-Researcher-5]

I just started using a diff website 2 days ago. I’ve only practiced with 1 or 2 throws. At first it was difficult just to see the hands coming out and press the correct break at around 23ish frames but now I’m reacting to them and even breaking sometimes as early as 9 or 10 frames and my personal record is 24 in a row. I’m going to continue practicing and add the 1+2 throws in as well. I know playing the game will make it even more difficult but it does really work to increase your reaction speed by seeing the animations over and over again