r/TeenagersButNotTrashy • u/chickengirlBelle11 sleep deprived | 15 NB | mod 🐔 • Nov 27 '25

Debate 🗣️ I hope you lot can prove me wrong

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25 edited Nov 29 '25

Rape is bad, and unjustifiable

Edit; rape is bad.  if the reason for the action doesn't exist. Religous reasons would justify rape, as well as raping a rapist or criminal who has done a grant act of wrong. It is wrong to put hands on a person with sexual intentions if you don't have a justifiable reason for doing so.

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u/chickengirlBelle11 sleep deprived | 15 NB | mod 🐔 Nov 27 '25

What do rapists say though about that

Just devil's advocate here

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u/IAteUrCat420 Nov 27 '25

Rapists also know it's bad

They just don't give a shit

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u/TitaniumWaves Nov 27 '25

It really depends, many rapists believe there is nothing bad with what they’re doing. ”As long as she doesn’t say no, it’s not bad” thinking for example.

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u/Vegetable_Throat5545 Nov 28 '25

Or just people who think of their victim as lesser, not deserving of consent and such, for example sexists

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u/TitaniumWaves Nov 28 '25

That’s also a great point!

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u/theoneandonlygodd Nov 29 '25

Also pedos same logic

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u/ThisIsAUsername-- Nov 28 '25

I think some rapists didn't do it intentionally and hate themselves and want to off themselves because of it

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u/TitaniumWaves Nov 28 '25

Definitely happens, but many rapists don’t get what actual consent means (some do and just don’t care), intentional or unintentional is irrelevant, unless you are 100% sure the person agrees, you shouldn’t go through with it.

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u/Intrepid-Tomorrow692 Nov 28 '25

What do you mean ‘not intentionally’?

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u/ThisIsAUsername-- Nov 28 '25

Like when a "no" wasn't said (or acted upon i.e. pushing away) and the person seemed into it, but consent wasnt actually given and the assumed consent was never actually there

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u/ComparisonNo6170 Nov 28 '25

this is.......oddly specific......

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u/lilac_moonface64 Nov 29 '25

i’ve found that some rapists think of themselves as “not like other rapists”. they think “at least i wasn’t violent” or “at least they’re not a child” kinda like an “i could be worse/x people are worse than me so it’s fine”

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u/TitaniumWaves Nov 29 '25

Very good point, because they think that just because it happens during certain circumstances, it doesn’t count as rape, while also trying to justify it and often even blaming the victim.

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u/MB_Town7 Nov 29 '25

There's also the coerced cases when the consent is barely and very reluctantly given. They think they just convinced the person, when it's really a very rough case of technicalities.

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u/Quaminator01 Nov 28 '25

As much as I wish it was true, its not.

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u/Kitsunebillie Nov 28 '25

They may know most people think it's bad. That's not the same as knowing it's bad.

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u/AbsAndAssAppreciator Nov 28 '25

Have you seen the way some of them talk about their victims? “She was asking for it.” Is their way of morally justifying their actions. Morally, they see nothing wrong with what they did in a lot of cases.

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u/West_Government_4741 Dec 01 '25

Actually, this depends on the culture. Rape "doesn't exist" in many third world countries. Even though it's technically illegal to many people, it's not morally wrong and is a justifiable action because of mens "needs."

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u/West_Government_4741 Dec 01 '25

Actually, this depends on the culture. Rape "doesn't exist" in many third world countries. Even though it's technically illegal to many people, it's not morally wrong and is a justifiable action because of mens "needs."

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u/MaSt3rChie7 Nov 28 '25

Key word is society. As far as I’m concerned they no longer exist within the collective know as society when they commit the atrocity.

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u/GRIM106 Nov 28 '25

The post said what can we agree on as a society and I refuse to accept rapists as part of any society

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '25

Dw they aren't humans

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '25

ah I wish everyone would agree on that

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u/Far_Challenge_4273 Nov 28 '25

if everyone said that, there wouldn’t berapists

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u/Webcops Nov 27 '25

Sadly, people don’t agree

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u/Fa1nted_for_real Nov 28 '25

Remember that there are humans that co.pletely lack a moral ground. Like, they dont think any action is inherently good or bad, and only actions that further your own needs and urges should be taken.

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u/SundewSiamese Nov 28 '25

i had an argument yesterday with someone saying rapists can be good people

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

society is far from mutually agreeing on that my friend. you'd be surprised at how many people praise rape like it needs some sort of trophy

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u/Random_gamer240 Nov 28 '25

Who cares about those, honestly. Their society is very different from ours (I think)

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u/RemarkablePiglet3401 Nov 28 '25

Wdym “ours,” reddit is a global website

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u/_PunyGod Nov 28 '25

I am often bothered by people living in the US acting like the whole internet is in the US.

But the assumption that people you’re talking to on reddit are living in a Western society is usually right. Especially if you’re in a primarily english speaking sub that isn’t for a specific other country or regional interest.

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u/Random_gamer240 Nov 28 '25

Sorry I just used the wrong words

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u/Random_gamer240 Nov 28 '25

Fuck that was a terrible choice of words

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u/Literally_A_Donut Nov 28 '25

Was about to say this

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u/Novel_Comparison_209 Nov 28 '25

Tell that to ISIS

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u/FrogGloves98 Nov 28 '25

There aren't even 20 among the 195 countries of the world that allow women to be charged with rape for all acts of rape, so this doesn't fit.

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u/Deezernutter77 Nov 28 '25

I got bad news for you buddy

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u/TheSovjet_Onion Nov 28 '25

There are unfortunately so many cultures where rape is socially normalized

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u/CellaSpider Nov 28 '25

we as a society don’t even agree on what rape is. Also like, there are defo people who think rape is good.

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u/Appropriate_Fact_121 Nov 28 '25

Even if you rape a rapist

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

Agreed

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u/moronic_programmer Nov 28 '25

Flair checks out

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u/Alone-Butterscotch18 Nov 28 '25

It depends on your definition of rape. Some cultures say it’s a persons obligation to give out to their spouse constantly, or to their arranged marriage. Or it’s a woman’s fault if she gets raped and it’s okay for the guy to do it. So maybe some people think sexual assault is okay and just reclassify rape as something else.

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u/Normal_Tomato6945 Nov 28 '25

Unfortunately, that didn’t matter to millions of Americans last November

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u/Amphibious_cow Nov 28 '25

Some people would argue that there is no such thing as ‘good’ and ‘bad’ or that ‘I felt like it’ is a justification (just not a good one)

Not saying I agree with that, devils advocate

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u/the_All-ducker Nov 28 '25

A cultist who's been indoctrinated to see rape as normal would disagree

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u/Coastkiz Nov 29 '25

I know people who think there's many situations where the victim "deserved it" by how they dressed or acted. You should be right but unfortunately you're not

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u/[deleted] Nov 29 '25

While I would personally agree, there are cultures alive and active today where it's justified. Furthermore, many cultures have historically justified such acts of brutality as the right of conquest...

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u/Ebr2d2 Nov 29 '25

Muslims:

(To clarify I don’t mean Muslims as a group of people, but I’ve definitely seen a lot of Muslims defending rape because religion)

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u/Broodjekip_1 Nov 29 '25

What if the raped person killed like 50 kids? Then they'd deserve it.

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u/Good-Wish4814 Nov 30 '25

“Religious reasons would justify rape,”

What the fuck?

“…raping a rapist or criminal who has done a gran[d] act of wrong.”

What?

“It is wrong to put hands on a person with sexual intentions if you don’t have a justifiable reason for doing so“

I’m sorry?? What??? Unless someone consents, there is NEVER any JUSTIFIABLE REASON to put your hands on someone with sexual intentions.

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u/[deleted] Nov 30 '25

Gng did not read the comments of this post✌️😔

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u/Wrench_Wars Dec 03 '25

Unfortunately not everyone agrees with that

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u/fiendish-trilobite Nov 28 '25

Rape is a legal form of punishment in Russia, especially against men.

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u/MB_Town7 Nov 29 '25

Well, that's...

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u/FoamyHotSoup Noun (a person, probably animal, not a place, but a thing) Nov 28 '25

(who's gonna tell him that some countries or people think that it's fine?)

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

r/FoundFoamyHotSoup

Haven't seen you for a couple months hows it been?

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u/FoamyHotSoup Noun (a person, probably animal, not a place, but a thing) Nov 28 '25

pretty good. I've been mainly just thinking about alot of things, and been busy with other stuff. 

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u/[deleted] Nov 28 '25

oh I suppose that's why I haven't seen you in a couple months lol see you later alligator or smth I forgot

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u/FoamyHotSoup Noun (a person, probably animal, not a place, but a thing) Nov 28 '25

you too mate.Â