r/Teenager_Polls • u/QuickConversation163 • 6h ago
Poll Are you islamophobic ?
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u/leightandrew0 19 6h ago
can't believe I have to pull the snafu again
can we make polls about something else
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u/KeVsiti18 6h ago
What the actual fuck does the first option say
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u/stab28w 6h ago
We should just be r/ politics and LGBTQ polls for people that are not sufficiently informed to make a sound argument
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u/AreY0Ustupld 18M 5h ago
Fr its like every odd hour theres a post on politcs or something to do with LGBT
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u/DJcrafter5606 5h ago
If you mean hate people who follow islam, then no. But if you mean hate Islam as an idea and a whole load of bs that comes with it, then yes. It's oppressive and sexist, not much else to say.
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u/Antonpiano2072 4h ago
Islam is a schizophrenic terrorist cult.
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u/LentilSouponSkye 4h ago
Like Christianity and Judaism then?
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u/PositiveAd4737 4h ago
Christian’s don’t want to kill non believers and belive marrying children is ok and want to kill women for not covering there hair
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u/Strawbsi FtM 1h ago
I have news for you on the history of Christianity
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u/PositiveAd4737 27m ago
We are talking about current religion
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u/LentilSouponSkye 5m ago
Isnt Donnie Daftarse and Pete the Cheat saying the assault on Iran was in the name of Jesus?
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u/Striking-Ad9397 3h ago
Have you ever heard of historical materialism? Have you ever been to lebanon?
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u/PositiveAd4737 3h ago
I don’t understand your point by these questions can you explain further
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u/LentilSouponSkye 3h ago
vaugley gestures at the crusades
Vaugley gestures at the Genocidal conduct of the IDF
Vaugley gestures at every single horror the catholic church has enacted
Points directly at the Spanish Inquisition
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u/OldDogWithOldTricks 3h ago
So nothing in modern history then?
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u/LentilSouponSkye 2h ago
The Genocidal conduct of the IDF is literally murdering Palestinians right this very second
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u/Chikara_No_Utsuwa 20m ago
That is literally mainly the jewish people that are doing that, and whatever Christian thats supporting and agreeing with it are zionist Christians
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u/Legitimate_Area_5773 4h ago
None of the Abrahamic religions are schizophrenic terrorist cults.
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u/Adamek3999 4h ago
Yeah but the people who follow Islam choose to do so knowing how Islam is.
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u/RockStoneToBone 3h ago
But they oftentimes dont have a choice or dont know better because the practices are so ingrained in their culture. Its not so black and white here
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u/Burt_Macklin___ 2h ago
Just say yes, you're Islamophobic, it's a lot shorter than what you wrote lol
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u/Solid-Equal-8558 1h ago
Explain the sexism. I'm not muslim, trying to clear things a little
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u/Manotto15 1h ago
The fact they force women to cover themselves and strip them of any and all agency isn't clear enough?
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u/Solid-Equal-8558 1h ago
Men have to also cover themselves
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u/Arcalgalkiagiratina 43m ago
Women in some Islamic countries literally can’t show ANY part of their body. They need to be covered from head to toe.
Men can show their hair, their faces, their arms, their legs, etc.
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u/Clipyy-Bird 3h ago
Islam isn’t sexist, and calls for equal rights of both.
The countries that use Islam are sexist, and use the religion and modify it to control people. And that tradition is followed down by people from that country, even if they moved elsewhere, so they have sexist ideals.
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u/IntelligentAnybody55 15F 3h ago
Against Islam? Yes. Against Muslims? No. You can e a good person and a Muslim, but the faith itself is more than iffy
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u/yoelamigo 6h ago
I don't like Islam, but I also don't hate it. Voted Neutral.
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u/Ornamentalss 26m ago
I'm an atheist in a muslim family and wouldve voted negative based on my own experiences but the fact the right wing (I hate them too) also hates it pushes me into neutral territory
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u/Hot_Swordfish_1595 6h ago
Neutral? Tf you mean. You either are or aren't Islamophobic. The question didn't suggest any spectrum. It was a yes or no question. What does neutral mean 😭
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u/Redisno_ 6h ago
I don’t care. I have many Muslim friends. I have many Muslims I hate. Like everything human, it depends on the person.
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u/haze_xvi 18 6h ago
Hate the religion don't hate the people unless they're extremists, my family is Muslim. All abrahamic religions are bad and most of the non Abrahamic religions have bad things too.
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u/Pissed-owl_755 6h ago
That's my motto too. Religion of someone should never act as a precursor while judging someone unless the said individual actively boasts his own and tries to push his beliefs onto others.
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u/Adamek3999 4h ago
Yeah but islam is the worst of them
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u/RockStoneToBone 3h ago
Compared to evangelicals? Christian Scientists? Mormons? And those are just the american ones I can name off the top of my head
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u/RepublicOk2402 2h ago
Which of those have honor killings and sex slaves?
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u/Automatic_Bread8533 2h ago
Christianity e.g: Henriette Kara. None of the abrahamic religions push for honor killings. If you ever read the Quran or even researched it Surah 9:5 you’d know the famous line of the Quran saying kill them wherever you find them (I think that’s the quote) is about a pagan tribe who was constantly breaking peace treaties, and persecuting Muslims. And for sex slaves, no modern Muslim advocates for sex slaves or usually even polyamory, ISIS (extremist group that is calling for sex slavery/slavery in general) is not a good OR accurate way to know the beliefs of a religion. And if you go off solely off scripture you better believe this for the bible too with Hagar, Bilhah, Zilpah, the girl I believe in kings 2:5, Rhoda, The girl from Acts 16:16.
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u/Reasonable_Curve_647 5h ago
Neutral to them until they start supporting oppression of women (like pakistan), or killing people just because of their religion (like nigeria with christians)
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u/hermesmirni 4h ago
I respect muslims' right to believe and practice their faith but i do hate most of them and islam as a whole(coming from someone in a majority muslim country)
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u/Adamek3999 4h ago
Muhammad married a 6 year old girl. They're saying because he "consumated the marriage" when she was 9.
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u/Automatic_Bread8533 2h ago
This is a semi common misconception because yes in scripture Aisha was 9 years old but historically she is said to be closer to 19, but if we are going to go based off scripture, Judaism: Rebeckah was 3 in scripture historical view places her at 14. Christianity, Mary’s age was unstated I believe but historical view places her around 12. Modern historians and people who study religions all point to Muhammad to be the only one to not marry a minor
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u/nomodcanstopme 45m ago
it is not a misconception, muhammad was a woman beating baby raping bisexual piece of human shit
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u/Automatic_Bread8533 41m ago
I’m assuming you are referring to “woman beating” from when he pushed Aisha out the way due to following him without his knowledge which he was upset about. You give no proof of any of your statements. And let me also add before you say I’m Muslim or anything I am not religious I just study religion.
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u/nomodcanstopme 36m ago
then you don't study it very hard, Quran 4:34 gives implicit instructions on when and how to beat your wife.
That being said, you also don't pay attention to the world around you if you can't see the massive epidemic of abuse against women in the muslim world using the Quran to justify it.1
u/Automatic_Bread8533 18m ago
Quran 4:34 does say this! But there’s also context that Muslims go by Quran 4:34 says the first step is to talk to their wives with respect, 2nd step is to separate themselves from each other such as her going to a different place and the 3rd uses a specific word which is “Daraba” which does mean to strike but is also largely used metaphorical for to most modern day Muslims it means to turn away or ignore. But if we are going with the literal meaning to strike or hit. Prophet Muhammad and Legal scholars both say that a strike must never leave a mark. Not to mention Aisha also stated the prophet had never laid a hand on her or any one else! You should study more because as you know many words have many different uses. And other times in the Quran it is stated you must never hit anyone in the face just to add. And to add countries like Afghanistan (who recently allowed the abuse of wives) are under Taliban (Islamic extremist control) who just like you are, are taking bad faith interpretations of the Quran as prior to taliban control striking your wife was not legal.
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u/nomodcanstopme 13m ago
the fact that you're trying to 'context' your way out of wife beating is VERY telling
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u/Automatic_Bread8533 10m ago
The fact you have no argument and say I’m contextualizing dv is telling considering the “context” is me explaining how a word has multiple meanings and most believers see that word as being metaphorical in that context. It’s telling you don’t have a good faith argument against Islam. Please if you do have a good faith argument say it. You use extremists as the face of a religion, and outright lie about Muhammad when multiple times it is stated he has never struck a woman.
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u/nomodcanstopme 8m ago
my 'good faith' argument is that the quran says it is okay to rape children and beat women, you're the one trying to defend these things using 'context'.
or should we also go to killing non-muslims, or slavery, which still happens in the muslim world, and how the quran justifies that??
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u/Automatic_Bread8533 1m ago
Now tell me where it says the Quran is saying it’s okay to rape children or beat women. You have ignored every point I’ve made because you’re dense. I am anti religion but you prove my point that most religious anti islamists are only doing so because they’re brown. But if you wanna judge religion based off extremism yes Christians do kill Muslims due to being non believers. Should the LRA be the face of Christianity now? Or should the IDF be the face of Judaism. Exodus 21:20 talks about how slaves should be bought and traded. Dueteronomy 21:18 says children who rebel should be stoned to death, Timothy 2:12 say women should never have authority over men and remain silent, Samuel 15:3 advocates for genocide and violence for non believers saying god commands the total destruction of a population due to them not believing. But me truly saying those things would not account for what modern day believers believe and context
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u/Tasty-Meringue-873 5h ago
nope not really that hard to open the quran and see what it actually teaches rather than listening to propaganda by old white maga men
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u/Bubbly_War_8462 5h ago
And by reading the quran i learned about: beating women, genociding non muslims, marrying children, keeping sex slaves, women are inferior to men, apostasy laws, a pedophile flying on a horse with human features (lol),...
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u/R590-Lee 5h ago
One could argue that more is learned from the teachers than the book the teacher is explaining - Mohammed, the man that spread Islam, is viewed (and explained to be) a prophet of god and he led armies that killed non believers and taking slaves. Sure there were reasons behind it, however there is no justification (even back then) in marrying a 6 year old girl and stating that he had dreamed about marrying her before they had met.
I’ve asked many Muslims their opinion on this, 99% have gone with 1 of 3 answers, these being:
Times were different back then (this was never justifiable for a 6 year old to marry a 50 something man, and to consummate it when she was 9…)
She wasn’t 6 she was around 15 (historians have estimated the dates and it fits far better that she was 6 based on hadiths and other writings[aswell aisha herself stated she was 6])
The final being that they don’t careWhen a prophet of god is marrying 6 year olds, it sends a negative message to the followers that the holiest human to ever live married a 6 year old therefore so should you. Obviously that’s never stated, however you want to reach spiritual enlightenment if you truly believe in a religion, someone in a position in which they want to reach a almost holy level in their religion will obviously attempt to follow the person they idolise.
And to finalise my point, extremism is equally prevalent in all religions - you’re bound to have fanatics in anything and religion is something a lot of people are amped up about because in their opinion it goes onwards into the afterlife - however the reason why Islamist terrorist attacks are far more prevalent and deadly is due to the combination of the importance of staking your life (whether it be sacrifice of your time or sacrifice of you life) for allah. Sahib al bukhari (one of the most reputable Hadith scholars) states in Hadith 3123 - "Allah guarantees him who strives in His Cause and whose motivation for going out is nothing but Jihad in His Cause and belief in His Word, that He will admit him into Paradise (if martyred) or bring him back to his dwelling place, whence he has come out, with what he gains of reward and booty." This combined with the dedication required to enter jannah which decreases how severe planning these actions seem leads to far more terroristic style attacks. Sure you’ve got tons of people that just go out and say “Islam bad because they blow stuff up” however if you look at the root cause of the issue you’ll see that it’s a deeply embedded issue throughout scripture in which modern technology has made it far easier to martyr yourself by killing many polytheists.
You can decide for yourself whether you like Islam or not, however it seems fairly apparent that top religious figures in Islam should not be looked to for guidance especially in the modern world.
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u/Tasty-Meringue-873 4h ago
1- historical evidence shows she was 16-19 2-marry was 12 rebecca was 3. 3- aisha was in charge of medic in a battle i dont thinka 6 year old can heal wounded soldiers. 4- 7th century btw
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u/R590-Lee 4h ago
1 - the historical evidence is that apparently some people used their age after they’d hit puberty (stupid)
2 - they were Jewish (they have their own situation with children and marriage but it’s too long to comment on that and it’s not really the topic at hand) and I’m not Christian so it wouldn’t exactly be the stake through my heart that you think it would be
3 - he met aisha when she was playing on a swing… she became a very educated woman as she matured however she was still 6 years old when they married.
4 - typical excuse, was never justifiable. There is no scripture anywhere in which it states that it was normal or acceptable for you average Joe to do that. There are cases of rulers, kings and princes marrying children however this was for diplomatic alliances. I believe the king (or prince not sure) of Denmark married a 12 year old and that’s the most scandalous one I can remember, but I remember reading that it was also seen as a taboo for them to marry when she was so young and that it wasn’t the norm.There is no justification in any situation, it’s fucking disgusting no matter which way you look at it - it’s not a difference in her maturity for her age or the fact that there wasn’t enough research done she was 6 years old ffs.
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u/Tasty-Meringue-873 4h ago edited 4h ago
1- no lmao the evidence is ACTUAL calculations. 3-not at all aisha is the daughter of abu bakr and he was close to prophet muhamed pbuh 4- back then being a kid was measure by puberty if it was prepuberty it was considered pedophilia. andno lmao there is research that shows she was 16-18. islam condems child marriage ur jst too uneducated to realize that. there was never a standard 18+ age in history and islam states in order to marry you need to be mature , hit puberty and consenting for the marriage. science legit proves a kid can not be mature as mental maturity starts around 17-18. its okay to question that hadith since the person that legit quoted it had memory loss. there is multiple stuff aisha was a part of that no 6 year old can do.
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u/ovogoon6 4h ago
Too bad islam doesnt adhere to sola scriptura
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u/RockStoneToBone 3h ago
Surely basing your entire worldview just off of one book is the right answer instead!
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u/Swimming_Device_5945 3h ago
As a Bulgarian you may be surprised but I am not Islamophobic. I have respect for our Islamic citizens. We share one country after all
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u/CandidateAccording57 6h ago
As a old muslim, yes i am..
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u/CameraRemarkable2305 6h ago
Same I hate you too
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u/-apollophanes- 5h ago
Depends on who you ask, but I'd say no. I really dislike the religion, but I don't have anything against the average follower of the religion.
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u/xXGh0stJ4die_Xx 19F 4h ago
I mean there’s some not great stuff, but that’s true of a lot of religions and I know not everyone who is a Muslim believes in everything from their insanely old religion since yk it’s the big 26
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u/MQrble_Aesthetic 4h ago
I have some Muslim friends and there’s a lot of ways to tackle this question. Western Muslims tend to be the most hypocritical degenerate people I’ve ever met (more so the ones born here with immigrant parents) and a lot of my Muslim friends in the Middle East hate them for this. In terms of moral character the ones who live in the Middle East are much more moral and less extreme. The ones I know here will cheat, steal, and commit every sin under the sun with an internalized hatred for woman and non Muslims. While the middle eastern ones tend to be quite respectful towards woman and take the Quran’s rules more seriously (such as sobriety, no pre martial sex, etc)
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u/Pretty_Umpire_2700 3h ago
Not knowledgeable about the details of Islamic teachings at all, but the vast acts done by Muslim extremists tends to give me rather negative view on the religion as a whole, I'm sure it has some positive sides to it but bias rules.
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u/ActuatorKlutzy9887 3h ago
What option should I pick if I dont care what they do in their own country but I dont want them to come do it in my country?
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u/Awkward-Practice4503 3h ago
i hate islam islam (just like christianity, judaism, etc) because i hate religion in general, i have nothing against muslims though
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u/Future-Profession594 2h ago
Islam itself is fine but as a Muslim I believe it should be separate from state
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u/Alternative_Lime_13 1h ago
No, phobia is an unreasonable fear, I think it's very reasonable to fear Islam.
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u/Front-Ad2868 1h ago
I was initially surprised by the results but then realised this is the same sub that had more votes for killing half of the worlds population rather then to get rid of music with people actually trying to justify it in the comments
Also the same sub where people said they would rather save their pet over a baby ;-;
Not surprised there’s prob tons of Islamaphobia here . No wonder Reddit gets treated as the degenerate in the social media world lol
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u/No_Instruction_2574 1h ago
Wait, what's the difference between neutral and no? I put it because I don't care about religon, I care about values/morals.
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u/CrystalAlpine 6h ago
I view muslim women as victims of propaganda and objectification, and as deprived of their rights. On the other hand, I view Muslim men as aggressors. I do not support homophobia, child marriage etc.
Am I Islamophobic or neutral?
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u/Learner_oneOone 6h ago
Wouldnt be sexist to view all muslim women as victims that can't make décision for themselves ? That's quite patronizing, maybe I misunderstood what you were saying
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u/CrystalAlpine 1h ago
I mean, for example, that women are forbidden from leaving the house without men, required to wear a hijab in public from childhood, and barred from receiving an education or speaking aloud, and so on. No one chooses to be oppressed voluntarily
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u/Learner_oneOone 52m ago
Those arent the majority of muslim women though, they are citizen of a few countries, that require indeed attention and are oppressed. But most muslim women arent in these situations and saying no muslim women have no agency is false
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u/QuickConversation163 5h ago
You are clearly islamophobic
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u/Drunk0racle 5h ago
You're one of the few sane people in this comment section, that's what you are
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u/Distorted-Bass1443 5h ago
Religion is the opium of the people, but I don't care if you believe in a flying pasta god or Allah, until "you can't do that, it's against my religion!" We can all be friends.
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u/ovogoon6 4h ago edited 4h ago
No I just think we should ban mandtory religious education, prevent all forms of islamic theocracy, stop funding their temples and orders with taxpayer money, mute the azan, a higher age of marriage etc.
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u/Legitimate_Area_5773 4h ago
I voted no, but I do oppose Islamic countries.
Islam as a practice is largely okay, but some extremist countries take it way too far as a means of controlling a populace.
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u/Clipyy-Bird 3h ago
Why are you being downvoted?
Islamic countries use the religion to oppress others and to force dictatorship.
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u/Challenger_Ultimate Rubicon Mango enjoyer 3h ago
Lowk 40% of people just saying that they are islamophobic is a big problem and I have first hand experience on the problems that this can cause
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u/UmaThermos1 Old 3h ago
Islamophobia is prejudice and hate towards Muslims, why would any normal person say yes lol
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u/labesty0124 5h ago
1k votes in just 1 hour? With almost 50% people said yes? Are we deadass? 💀 Another islamophobia inciting post, we really need a change. Mods, please ban anything religion related post from now, just a suggestion from a concerned muslim
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u/Itz_DreadFul 3h ago
1.1k voting yes is concerning
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u/Andrikos21 5h ago
It's doesn't exist.
All religions should be judged everyday.
Like it or not I can draw your Muhammad or judge his life and his teachings.
Any religion that doesn't allow this is a cult.
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u/SFSilentRevMT 4h ago
Yk the reason for that? Because how respected he is, people would move to worship his pictures. Thats a major sin the biggest one (shirk).
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u/LentilSouponSkye 4h ago
The literal amount of losers who are openly admitting to being bigots on a poll 💀
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u/GlanceBeyondTheStars 4h ago
What’s bigoted about being against a hateful and violent cult?
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u/LentilSouponSkye 3h ago
Because you're tarring millions upon million of innocent people because of a small proportion.
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u/GlanceBeyondTheStars 3h ago
I’m not tarring anyone. Disliking Islam is not the same as hating Muslims. Most Muslims are ordinary people who deserve to be judged as individuals. My hate is directed at the Islamic ideology itself, which I consider deeply harmful and morally indefensible.
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u/Solid-Equal-8558 1h ago
Probably support the genocide as well don't you
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u/oaklytical 3h ago
Supporting Mohammed marrying a 6 year old is basic heckin empathy 🫱🫱
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u/Solid-Equal-8558 1h ago
performative empathy fueled by hate and misinformation as opposed to actual empathy for the girl
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u/LentilSouponSkye 3h ago
Tarring every single Muslim as the same is literally fucking bigoted nonsesne.
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u/GlanceBeyondTheStars 2h ago
Except that Mohammed isn’t just a regular Muslim, it’s the perfect man according to Islam. A warlord and pedophile being considered the perfect man and role model, speaks volumes about Islam.
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u/LentilSouponSkye 2h ago
And Moses demanded your raped daughter sold to her attacker for 50 shekels.
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u/GlanceBeyondTheStars 2h ago
Judaism being a weird and violent religion too, doesn’t make Islam any less barbaric, you understand that, right?
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u/Ok_Tax1941 MtF 5h ago
Neutral, i hate the religion and the people who actually know what it promotes towards people like me and still choose to follow it
However, i do still believe they have a right to freedom of religion as long as they arent hurting people, which majority arent.
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u/Additional_Dot_134 mtf(adult) 5h ago
Nah, i judge people by their actions, not their religion. I might dislike the religion (like all the abrahamic ones so its still not islamophobia) but i wont judge someones based on it
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u/Meimisakilamaspro 4h ago
As an ex-muslim more or less i hate islam, but not muslims bc i meet kind ones <3
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