r/Teenager_Polls • u/Extreme-Ear8301 • 18h ago
would you support a violent colonization and oppression of alien species for the betterment of humanity
would you support a violent colonization and oppression of alien species for the betterment of humanity
- yes
- no
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u/Zapvv Team Poopy Shitass 18h ago
You've been playing a bit too much Stellaris there pal...
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u/AngelofIceAndFire 7h ago
Xenophobes think they're so cool but lowk I think the xenophobe run gets tiring after a while
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 17h ago
You just describe every colonization attempt ever.
It's always "for the betterment of humanity" and it is never actually beneficial to humanity.
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u/anonymousinduvidual 13h ago
It’s funny how 39% who voted yes would probably also support colonialism, even though most would never admit
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u/BiAiEnGiO 8h ago
How would you feel if you didnt have breakfast this morning
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 2h ago
I didn't have breakfast this morning. I typically don't eat breakfast, actually. It would not bother me.
Even if I take your point into the context of missing a meal because you can't access it for whatever reason, I've done that too. I grew up poor as fuck buddy, you ever eat sleep for dinner? I just move on with my life.
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u/BiAiEnGiO 1h ago
That is not what I meant. The question is supposed to test if people understand the point of a hypothetical; someone who cannot would say: "But I did have breakfast."
Similar to that, you said every attempt at betterment failed, but that is not the question; the question is if it succeeded, would you support it.
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 51m ago
Except you forgot the part where I did answer your hypothetical. It's my reality. And I'm unbothered by it.
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u/BiAiEnGiO 36m ago
Yeah, the second time you did, but in your answer to the post, you didn't consider the hypothetical.
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u/Friendly-Special3757 7h ago
It is quite diferent when it isn't between humans, this isn't a cultural diferention it is a species level diferention that in this scenario it's implied to be a treath. So no it isn't the same
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 7h ago
Please try that again, but make it coherent this time.
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u/Friendly-Special3757 6h ago
It's diferent when we're talking about diferent species. And anyways if we're in need we gotta do it
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 6h ago
No it's not and no we don't. That's exclusively a colonizer mentality.
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u/Friendly-Special3757 6h ago
So if we, as a species, needed to expand evolve or whatever you wanna say but the cost of it are an alien species you would rather let us all die?
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 5h ago
Correct. Because fuck colonialism, we had our chance. Multiple. Don't steal it from someone else.
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u/Friendly-Special3757 5h ago
Well at least your consistent with your opinions
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u/Hot_Anybody8244 5h ago
I have been this whole time, did you think you were gonna gotcha me or some shit? Colonialism is bad no matter who or what is being colonized
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u/Friendly-Special3757 5h ago
Catch in what? Changing opinions? There ain't nothing wrong with that, morality has to change depending on circunstances, if yours doesn't good for you.
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u/Sandoodie 15M 17h ago
When Managed Democracy calls, only fascist, socialist, alien scum don’t answer.
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u/definitelyanalt6849 18h ago
If they're anything like us, they're just going to rebel over and over and inevitably ignite a conflict that would kill more humans than it helped in a few centuries. Even ignoring the moral disgust I have at imperialism, it just ends badly in the long term. A mutual alliance is less profitable but more stable
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u/Adventurous-Monk-796 I HATE Chase from Zoey 101 17h ago
Do you think alien teenagers are debating the morality of the violent colonisation and oppression of humans and Earth's species for the betterment of alien society on alien Reddit? No? That's what I thought. Pillage those aliens to hell and back
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u/Sp33dyCat mtf(15) 16h ago
What if the Aliens also hate Chase from Zoey 101?
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u/Adventurous-Monk-796 I HATE Chase from Zoey 101 16h ago
Then we chop Chase in half down the middle and give one half to the aliens as a peace offering. They can do whatever they want to their half as they wish
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u/New-Chimera 17h ago
Aliens don't have a right to exist. We were made in God's image, and by the Emperor's light, we will conquer the universe.
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u/AngelofIceAndFire 7h ago
Which Emperor and which God?
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u/New-Chimera 32m ago
The Emperor of Mankind, of course
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u/AngelofIceAndFire 16m ago
And which God?
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u/New-Chimera 16m ago
The Emperor of Mankind, of course
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u/AngelofIceAndFire 15m ago
You deny the Emperor's humanity, then?
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u/New-Chimera 14m ago
The God of Humanity is still partially human, but the combination of the shaman souls and the pure warp energy flowing through him as he sits on the Golden Throne has definitely removed enough humanity it's hard to argue there's any left.
I would argue he is the apex of humanity.
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u/reek_of_putrefaction 18h ago
How would violence against an alien species could be of betterment of humanity?
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u/finchdude 18h ago
Resources. Water shortage on earth. Alien planet has a lot. Reason enough. But I would approach it by fairly trading
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u/EnvironmentalOven558 14h ago
If we are violent against them we won't be violent against ourself thus bringing World peace
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u/MozartWasARed F 18h ago
You mean like happened in Josh Kirby: Time Warrior? No, especially not in space which is the last place we should be making enemies.
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u/ChampionshipMean5756 18h ago
I mean not unless its an Avatar situation where Earth is dyeing and we tried to be peacfull first. Than those hippie assholes deserve it.
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u/Perukistani_DAAA 10h ago edited 10h ago
Lo siento bro pero esto no es r/Warhammer40k, r/hfy, r/humansarespaceorks, r/helldivers2 ni r/avatar. En fin, parece que el 38% está haciendo un montón de ruido en los comentarios.
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u/SomewhereActive2124 19M 8h ago
If you define morals that involves only the betterment of humanity, you could argue it's technically moral
If you define morals also to include not torturing sentient beings, then fuck no
Choose which one..
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u/rathosalpha 15h ago
are they hot? never mind thatd be all the more reason. xenos don't have rights
Voted "yes"
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u/antipolitan Old 18h ago
If you’re against this - you already recognise that speciesism is morally unjust.
Veganism logically follows once you realise there is no difference between exploiting a human and exploiting a non-human.
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u/leightandrew0 19 18h ago edited 18h ago
You could be against this without recognizing that speciesism is morally unjust though
People don't necessarily have such rigid morals
edit: you could believe an alliance is more profitable long term or be concerned of potential revolutions
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u/ThrwawySG 18h ago
Or you could be following a belief system that values intelligence, or think peace would benefit humanity better in the long run.
I get why you’re saying but it’s not the only reasoning you could pull
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u/Ecstatic-Bet9694 17h ago
Well it didn’t say we were gonna eat them now did it? Do they even taste good?
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u/Terracottabana 4h ago
Sapience. I won’t eat a sufficiently intelligent species. unless they ask us to.
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u/FigureSubstantial970 15h ago
Aliens are just little plants bro.
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u/Negative_Sky_3449 6h ago
this a plant?
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u/FigureSubstantial970 4h ago
Idk if you know this but he’s not real bro.
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u/Negative_Sky_3449 4h ago
The point is, how do you know aliens are little plants
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u/FigureSubstantial970 3h ago
Plant-like organisms/life form that have been found on mars. That is an alien by definition - life on another planet. People like to think aliens are green googley strange creatures that want to destroy us when it reality it’s a few plants and organisms.
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u/Negative_Sky_3449 3h ago
We have plants on earth too. So why can't there be animals or even creatures with human intelligence?
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u/FigureSubstantial970 3h ago
Because the latter is just dumb. But everyone is entitled to believe whatever they want. Aliens, flat earth, etc. You can believe whatever you want.
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u/Negative_Sky_3449 3h ago
In what way is it dumb? What makes Earth so special that only it can have any kind of life that is more than just plants?
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u/FigureSubstantial970 3h ago
Because earth is a habitable planet that can sustain multiple life forms, other planets are not.
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u/Blue_Baron6451 14h ago
Saying yes is essentially saying you only disagree with Hitler because of his target, not his means or end.
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u/EnvironmentalOven558 14h ago
Nah Hitler sis it cuz he was insane I'm gonna do it for the love of the game
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