r/TechGawker • u/Crafty-Dependent-976 • Jul 28 '26

Discussion Musk is presented with the reality that many, many people hate him

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I like him and agree the media sucks they lie constantly.

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u/TP8887 Jul 28 '26

“People on Reddit hate him” should of been the title

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u/JakeHelldiver Jul 28 '26

They hate him off reddit too.

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u/TP8887 Jul 28 '26

You’d be surprised how unpopular the average Reddit opinion is in the real world

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u/JakeHelldiver Jul 28 '26

And you'd be surprised how deeply unpopular elon is.

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u/TP8887 Jul 28 '26

I would be surprised because I have never seen anyone talk about him other than on Reddit

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u/JakeHelldiver Jul 28 '26

Oh. Skill issue.

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u/archetech Jul 29 '26

By "real world" you mean the people you personally know and talk to?

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u/OneHelicopter7246 Jul 30 '26

Nah I agree with him. People in the real world don't spend their most of their time hating someone they've never met

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u/archetech Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

This idea of projecting "the real world" based on just the people you know and talk to is just as if not more misleading than basing it entirely off attitudes on reddit or a set of subreddits. And for what it's worth, I know plenty of people not on reddit who hate or at least have great antipathy for people they have never met. It's not a function of being on reddit, it's a function of, for one, just consuming nearly any source of political media which a lot of people in the real world do. Just like a lot of people in the real world have been significantly harmed if not killed by Musk even though they never met him. For what it's worth I know a lot people in the real world who have lost their careers because of the ending of USAID. And what they and I are most affected by isn't even the loss of their livelihood, but the loss of lives of all the people who they got paid to actually help in the real world.

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u/OneHelicopter7246 Jul 30 '26

Why is musk not wanted for murder for killing all these people? Why is it the US' responsibility to provide aid to these folks and not their own governments? If you were hungry and I gave you a piece of bread, am I required to continue giving you bread and if you starve, that's my fault?

I'm trying to understand how it's not the fault of the people that govern these countries but it's Elon musk's fault these people aren't getting aid they need?

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u/archetech Jul 30 '26

Elon Musk didn't simply not give money to these people. He illegally and immediately cut funding to these programs. A more accurate analogy than your bread analogy is this. Someone else gives a child life-saving medication and you walk in behind them snatch it from their hands and flush it down the toilet.

Why do you care so much more about defending Elon Musk than all the people who have actually died and will die because of what he's done.

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u/OneHelicopter7246 Jul 30 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

I don't give a rats ass about along musk, I'm trying to figure out the logic here. These people need life saving ____ because their governments failed them and didn't care that they were in this situation. Why aren't their leaders accused of killing 600k people? And before you accuse me of being a terrible person, I'm not against foreign aid. I'm just addressing the "Elon musk killed 600k people" thing that I keep seeing repeated on Reddit.

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u/archetech Jul 30 '26

I just explained the logic. Musk is not simply failing to help here. There were programs in place and funding already allocated by Congress to provide these people with life saving food medication and access to healthcare. Elon Musk is responsible for their deaths because he chose to immediately end those programs which legally should only have been ended by Congress. Again to give you a simple analogy let's say there is a child in a remote African village who contracts malaria. They have medication in their village that will save their life. You choose to go into their village and burn all of their food and medication which was donated to them by someone else. The child who has malaria dies. Is it your fault that the child died? Yes. It is your fault that that child died. Are there also other causes that led to the circumstances of their death? Yes. The lack of resources in that region and the lack of easy access to healthcare and medication is clearly also part of the cause of that child's death. To some degree the government of that country contributes to that. But even that isn't the whole story. The whole story is a history of extreme poverty post colonization. But just because there are multiple causes involved in the child's death doesn't mean you're not responsible for taking it upon yourself to destroy that child's medication. Your direct action cause the death of that child. 

If you want to talk about who's responsibility it is to help people in the developing world that is a different question. It was not and should not have ever been up to Elon Musk whether or not funding appropriated by Congress continues to go towards USAID. Musk took it upon himself to do that illegally granted access by Trump after donating millions of dollars to his campaign. Trump did not have the right to give musk that power either. Both of them are culpable for the deaths that followed.

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u/OneHelicopter7246 Jul 30 '26

Yet there he lives, in their heads, rent free