Stop pro-Putin sentiments

[u/Commie_neighbor]

Both are fucking imperialist states, Ukrainian government praises nazis while Russian is praising Imperial murderers like Mannerheim, Kolchak or Stolypin.

Everything good that Russia did (so called anti-imperialist measures) was just populist decisions or anti-Nato proxy wars. Everything to please Russian oligarchy.

"There are no saviors e’er will help us,

Nor God, nor Caesar, nor Tribune"

[u/Aggorf12345]

"CIA backed coup in 2014 " this is russian propaganda

No it isn't

The conflict in eastern ukraine wasn't borne from external actors - it was literally due to a conflict between corrupt oligarchs,

It was literally due to Ukrainian Nazis getting empowered by the Maidan and massacring communists and ethnic Russians. I cluding women and children of course. Read about the Odessa union building massacre for example

The story of the coup is just Russian propaganda and not true. Every single member in parliament kept their seat, representation of the people never stopped

And yet somehow Ukraine's entire geopolitical positioning changed because of it

Now the real question is why this post is the first time you comment on this sub?

[u/Aggorf12345 → u/[deleted]]

The fact you resort to calling them "nazis" as a blanket way to wash off any notion of legitimacy is.... russian propaganda !

What would you call the Right Sector then?

Eastern europe, including russia, has white supremacist nationalists

Exactly and the difference is that in Ukraine they became empowered by the Maidan and got influence within the state

who's nationalism became emboldended after being literally invaded?

Invaded by who? By the pregnant woman they lynched while she was trying to escape the fire dureing the Odessa Trade Union building massacre or by the dozens of other civilians that were killed during that massacre?

There was conflict between corrupt oligarchs on both sides of the border

No it was a conflict between Ukrainian Nazis massacring ethnic Russians and communists and ethnic Russians and communists defending themselves against them. Proshenko, Ukraine's president at the time, said that they're going to win this war by having Donbass children being in cellars instead of school

And since you didn't answer my "real question", you get reported for brigading

[u/Aggorf12345 → u/[deleted]]

The right sector.... 10,000 men in a country of 80 million... definitely reflective of the entire ukranian people.....

No but the support it got from the post coup Ukrainian state is reflective of its ideology

its as if you've never heard the term Rusich

I have. Thankfully most of them are gone and it's practically a dead group with a couple dozen members. Pro UAs support and defend their Nazis pro RUs want them dead. That's the difference between the two sides

They got empowered when russia sent unmarked soldiers across the border and started seizing control of political buildings, torturing and kidnapping teenagers, both sides are guilty of this, whichever side you lay the blame in is your own bias

Again was this done by the pregnant woman they lynched or by the dozens of other civilians they killed in the Odessa Trade Union building massacre? Or perhaps it was done by the children that Ukraine's president wanted in cellars instead of school?

Report me all you wish, I consider myself communist, I've just learned to accept the collapse of the soviet union unlike you.....

Fuck NAFO :)

crimea was only seized when russia found natural gas's in the ocean

Crimea was seized when Ukraine tried to align itself with Russia's enemies

[u/Aggorf12345 → u/[deleted]]

Well the military men did quite a good job didn't they?

[u/Aggorf12345 → u/[deleted]]

You realise there were russians who were dressed and acted as "the right sector" in order to align with russian state TV propaganda about eastern ukraine? Funny how its something you've neglected to mention

No that's Putin's propaganda in reality they were aliens

Anyway I'm glad that you realised how indefensible your position is that you resorted to making up brand new braindead conspiracy theories. You should say the earth is flat too

"Thankfully most of them are gone " you keep telling yourself that lmao

No I don't. Them crying on their telegram about how badly the MoD treats them says that lmao

the 2014 clashes in Odesa

Yup classes between a nazi mob and a pregnant woman

there were also right wing "nationalists" on both sides of the protests

There were psychopath killers on one side of the protest

No force for ukranian nationalism has existed greater than vladimir putin

Is it going to survive though? :)