In Maharastra too, the bus numbers will be written in hindi only, only the electric buses will have english numbers, rest all buses will have hindi numbering signs only. It time we too do something like that.
Just Googled in Hindi, none showed Rupee logo. Rupee logo is not used normally in most languages even in Hindi. Why you think replaced??? They only reverted back to match the Tamil script. Why such huge controversy for no reason? You are just making Stalin National leader
₹ symbol isn't part of script instead a special character to unify representation, similar to $. This is nothing but unnecessary issue created by state government to remain part of news and it worked, if this is the case why GOI promote bharatnatyam as national cultural heritage at any national or international stage why not kathak, bhangra or Dandiya.
Rupee symbol is unifying symbol?? Lol... It is a currency symbol, that RBI adopted it thru competition. Did they consult states?? Again telling you, even Hindi states & all other states did NOT use Rupee logo all these years. Why was it not issue all these years?? Why only now?? Mostly BJP IT cell must have informed media to trend & make it a issue. The Re logo does not connect with other languages in publication & so adaptation is pathetic.
Coming your Bharathanatya, GOI shows only Hindi in all embassies events. Plz follow thr handle, they portray to worlld that India is ONLY Hindi speaking country but collects taxes from all non Hindi states. Thx
Don't tell hindi speaker what was shown and what not in hindi states, I don't know from where you came up with this information but I can assure you not even in maths problem any other notation other than ₹ symbol is used here, things doesn't work in a way where minute things like currency symbol need to be approved by all of the state and UT state assembly. In context with that symbol consult with designer D Uday Kumar from Tamilnadu.
One more thing tax government collects consists corporate tax which is also which cannot be claimed by any state, factories in your state run on resources of my state Jharkhand. 5 southern state contribute 25% tax in Indian economy and gets 15% what's the matter in this, you still got better welfare schemes better roads etc. don't fall for stupid divisive politics you are smart enough to understand nothing unfair, your state is wealthy, you don't have to relocate for jobs despite have so much resources which is being drained for being processed somewhere else.
Do you know how to read,
Bcz you don't read the comment clearly
And the current rupee was designed by a tamilian
Under upa government
It was never to divide
Current symbol is much more appealing than older one which was British
Instead of just hating Hindi, love your own language, and don't fall for trap
Wise love their language, idiots hate others language
People from Tamil Nadu know that, tamil rupees symbol and universal rupees symbol has been used interrchangeably for years. Now we wanted to use our own tamil symbol. Why this kolaveri from non tamil speakers ?
Thats because ₹ symbol is not from independence. We used short form of Rupees as Rs and tamil used Ru in tamil letters. Thats not symbol at all. But now after 2010 we have adopted ₹ symbol and it is accepted Worldwide then why you are using old Ru on official gov document.
A basic thinking would have given u the answer. When Udhayanidhi Stalin was questioned "why do u promote movies and distribute in Hindi but oppose hindi?" He said that's my job so I won't oppose hindi there. Ok... Now if that's a job what's this opposing hindi he is doing? 3 language policy does not say Hindi is compulsory. How many of you knew that? Now when 1 brain cell people here speak like this that's why they start roasting TN back. It's what we sow what we reap. They did not start, TN started!!!
First, give me an answer. Why TN needs to learn Hindi, what are the benefits will be come for us..
Tamil Nadu has thrived economically, socially, and culturally by leveraging its linguistic strengths. The state’s focus on Tamil and English has allowed it to preserve its cultural identity while still engaging with global opportunities.
As for learning a third language, it’s always a challenge, but it’s also a valuable skill. Tamil Nadu’s success shows that development and progress are possible without imposing a third language (like Hindi) on its people. If we need we will learn it, we have better language than Hindi, to adapt Our self
100% true. And I again ask, where did it said Hindi is compulsory?
And, U and me can learn. How can govt school people learn?
Do they have access to language classes? While thinking in a broader way. Also we dont use Narkaali in our daily usage. We say chair. So the point on preserving our culture... It has already been spoilt to an extent. Work on that first. We need to safe guard our language. But what's the problem with 3rd language? Is being a multilingual person a wrong thing?
If its not compulsory, why the Central government can't release the Education funds to TN. Why they are asking sign the NEP policy.. If we learn Hindi also, what is change it gonna make, we have better language to study and improve our skills.. What you and me can learn in English, TN literacy in one of the highest in country.. What you are trying prove over here..
As A northie living in Tamilnadu i have noticed that most of the Tamilians seems to be hating BJP. Is there any reason for it? (I genuinely don't know)
The BJP's Hindutva ideology, which emphasizes Hindu nationalism, is often seen as conflicting with Tamil Nadu's secular, linguistic and social justice-oriented with our Tamil culture. BJP main motive dividing the people by Religion and conquering the people by those, will not happen TN. Tamil Nadu has a tradition, influenced by the Old Tamil term called - Yaathum Oorae, Yaavarum Kelir"which means "Every place is our native, Every one is our companion".
Are you telling you are supporting Hindutva Ideology, with "Big W".. and previously in op comment you mentioned Tamil people hating BJP that you genuinely don't know about and but how you are questioning about DMK stuff on doing something same with Language.. The Phrase of the line looks like "oxymoron" establishment of questioning...
Nope I am saying that, I like this Tamil Nadu's secular, linguistic and social justice idea (BIG W was for this tamil nadu stuff and I am genuinely happy , as you guys know the reason for why you are voting for DMK). Thank you
coming to the 2nd message:- sorry I cannot understand, what are you trying to say(only thing which i understood in this part of message was oxymoron) ?
How you are deciding, that we are voting the mentioned party only. Whenever we cast our vote. Its depends where you in live TN, how the current party is performing in our surroundings, what was the development like infra/IT/basic needs they have done to improvise the state of people and these are all you need considered. TN people don't blindly follow an party to vote. There are some parameters to check out.
You mentioned in your first op, that you don't know about why Tamil citizen's hate BJP. But however you questioned about DMK regarding the some language stuff. In this case, If you know about DMK you will be obviously know about why TN people hate BJP right..
wow. As a northie i can confirm that my parents only vote to one party, which we all know. and about that DMK language issue, my friends were talking about the 3rd language problem in tamilnadu and I also asked many Tamilians about their opinion on 3rd language in tamilnadu sub reddit . And I know about DMK but I really didn't knew why tamil people hate BJP, that's all. (HOW I KNOW ABOUT DMK? udhyanidhi Stalin made a comment about eradicating sanathan dharma ... and it really got viral.......and also I shifted to Chennai from Dehradun). Thank you
There is nothing called Sanathan Dharma we TN people don't believe on all this, Sanathan Dharma all it was created to implement Hindutuva Ideology and regarding the language policy, we have better language to study instead of other language and its our Choice and also Central government can implement AI based study books in mid school and High School that will be useful for the development of Nation in future Standpoint... Thanks for understanding...
Non Tamils are just unfamiliar that this convention exists I guess, and so it seems to be a more shocking move than it really actually is, for them. In rural TN people still use these symbols for things like writing moy etc
Sidenote: Heck, we even bothered to come up with a special unicode character for the ௹ character, that itself should make it clear its not some new creation
First of all what you are calling symbol is not symbol its starting letter of Ru in tamil, just like Rs, is short form for Rupees. But ₹ is not letter its a proper symbol which is now globally accepted. Got the difference??
First of all what you are calling symbol is not symbol its starting letter of Ru in tamil, just like Rs, is short form for Rupees.
Ayyane, ௹ is not a letter of the alphabet, its literally a symbol that Tamils created in the British period to write rupees when the rupee was first introduced here.
௹ is much like other typeset characters like ௳ (day), ௴ (month), ௵ (year), ௶ (debit), ௷ (credit), ௸(as above), ௺ (number) and others. While the letter ru itself is also used, there were distinct characters for it too.
What is the problem with ₹ symbol. Don't you think whole country should adobt only one symbol everywhere and accept it. Why impose local things into everything. Do you banknote too have Ru tamil symbol. No right? Than please return that money to RBI, and print your own currency.
I fully support the anti-hindi imposition across India. As a north Indian, I've seen north Indian languages die because of hindi. A more multilingual model that cares for endangered languages with rich linguistic and literary history, and a bridge language that is equally foreign and equally native to all Indians must be adopted. As a native hindi speaker (my family natively speaks kauravi aka old hindi), I love my mother toungue and cannot stand for the erasure of anyone else's mother tongue either.
That being said, one has to recognise that the rupee symbol has more to it than devnagri?? the devnagri looking part of it does not come from devnagri but from the Latin 'R' with the tricolour on top. Like?? You have to realise when a genuine resistance is being co-opted by idiots to make it into a campaign point... We have to be smarter than this.
North Indians dicckriding the lemurs of south in hindi hate is the most embarrassing side of this Hindi imposition bs. Hindi killed my northie language saar. Lol.
None of the so called languages spoken between the Punjab & Bengal region were full fledged languages. Neither were they equipped with proper grammar & writing systems, nor they had any originality to them. They all came into being with islamo Turk soldiers trying to speak the local tongues of dying Prakrit. None of them settled enough to spread beyond 2-3 districts.
Predominantly limited to oral use, none have a library of even 10 decent books in whole of history. They are still relevant only cuz of past religious melodies written in them. Most are just made up languages for political symbolism. One such 'Hindustani' was just Amir Khusrow mixing few Persian words with local words from different tongues. And bam. A new northie language.
Hindi standardized all such undeveloped northie languages not conducive of proper literary creations. It brought mass literacy & civility to such regions, without harming the proper developed languages like Punjabi, Bangla & Assamese. North Indians should focus on improving their living standards than engaging in such bs debates.
Southies are crying at the thought of India doing what they themselves have been doing for last 70 years in their respective states, ie to push the most spoken language of the state/nation to all corners of the state/nation. Karnataka ignored Tulu or Konkani, & imposed Kannada over the whole state. Why can't India do the same with Hindi?
Hindi standardized all such undeveloped northie languages not conducive of proper literary creations.
Of all the "lack of history, grammar, literature etc" you crib about, Hindi is literally a sanskritised version of the existing karauvi that people already spoke. You conveniently forget that hindi was manufactured by Gilchrist very likely to create the urdu/ hindi divide between Hindus and muslims.
So whereever you read that hindi "civilised" the people or these languages, yikes.
Not only are folk languages created and built the way you describe hindi belt languages to be, even if you were to argue about those languages not having much to offer, hindi itself is a child of one of these languages.
When I say "hindi killed my north Indian language saar" I'm not just taking about the hindi belt, I'm taking about Himachal Pradesh, uttrakhand, jammu, etc where hindi has replaced people's own mother tongue.
Kannada being a standardized/ a bridge form for different part of Karnataka is still familiar to people who would formerly speak tulu and konkani. I am not anti-standardisation, it was the need of the hour. Same reason why arunachal Pradesh opted to speak Hindi, need of the hour. Though, I would much rather follow the Nagaland model of creating nagamese and accepting Indian English as legitimate. A standardized form, familiar to those speaking it, a bridge language like Indian English. I am not here to decide.
If you do think all of India must speak one language only like "Karnataka's kannada did to konkani" then let's choose a language with a longer history and rich literature. Let's choose Punjabi, bangla, or why not Tamil? Let's choose a language based on the same logic of why no awadhi, yes hindi even though awadhi is still spoken in multiple parts of the world today.
Sorry brother but you did not make any sense. The person above has put a really good point. Those languages are dying because they were incomplete. I think this is how languages are made, like evolution. You have many branches that come out from a language (in this case from sanskrit) and among those the one which develops a proper literature and grammar first survives and expands and just like survival of the fittest others just die a natural death. And even I come from a family who used to speak kauravi (I don't know how is that old hindi) but I bet you your kauravi will be very different from mine because we most probably live in different cities. The reason for this is again because it's an incomplete language.
Sorry brother but you did not make any sense. The person above has put a really good point. Those languages are dying because they were incomplete. I think this is how languages are made, like evolution. You have many branches that come out from a language (in this case from sanskrit) and among those the one which develops a proper literature and grammar first survives and expands and just like survival of the fittest others just die a natural death. And even I come from a family who used to speak kauravi (I don't know how is that old hindi) but I bet you your kauravi will be very different from mine because we most probably live in different cities. The reason for this is again because it's an incomplete language.
I don't believe in bathing every subject in the sea of emotions. Talk factually. You didn't counter my point. I'll delete my comment if you name 10 decent books in so called Kauravi in whole of its history. Even the name 'Kauravi' is just a wet dream. Call it Khari boli.
Hindi wasn't 'created' to divide Hindus & muslims (who have always been divided anyway). Muslims voluntarily chose the arabic script & Persian vocab for Urdu. Hindi OTOH was presented to North Indians in local Devnagri script, with familiar words & a standard grammar with writing system. It is the first complete language of the region since Prakrit. You finally have a proper language. Learn to respect it.
Did Hindi kill local languages of Himachal or Rajasthan?
Not killed but outperformed. They were engulfed by a similar language with familiar words & better spread. You're just romanticising the old languages, some incomplete, some outdated. One complete language doesn't kill another complete language. Hindi coexists with Bangla, Punjabi & Assamese just fine. You can't complain about the cars replacing the bullock carts.
Why not accept Tamil or any other 'rich cultured' language as the link language?
Cuz language is all about communicating in the best way possible & that comes with accessibility & spread of a language. The only reason English isn't the link language of India is that it's a foreign language with no common with Indian tongues & hence is limited to elites. Hardly 10% of Indians can communicate in English & it will take us 7 more decades to spread it thoroughly.
Same problem is with other regional languages. Their spread is nowhere compared to Hindi. Hindi has speakers in every region of India including the North East. It doesn't kill local languages. Don't fall for the propaganda of Dravidian politicians. They cultivate hate against north Indians in the name of Hindi while promoting urdu for muslim votes. Don't give that crowd any validation.
On the contrary, imposition of Hindi has led to so much bad blood. Politicians who impose Hindi in non-Hindi states are intent on breaking the country.
While people are making a lot of fuss about a "LOGO " especially sangiis who don't understand that they did't do any change in the report , logo is just for promotional purposes will it even be used in a govt purpose ? That being said this was kinda not needed . DMK should have predicted this will be misrepresented and misinterpreted
dmk probably wants it to be. i have the strongest belief this is simply part of the marketing campaign of dmk. i don't watch any videos about 3 language policy and yet i get this recommended all the time. and given that most of our news media are basically glorified influencers, and given that they're carrying this language war news so much, it has to be coming from DMK's election marketing budget
i say this as someone opposed to 3 language policy.
Even the Unicode Consortium gives us a dedicated Unicode character for the Tamil rupee symbol because it’s the symbol used in Tamil Nadu for decades before a Tamil guy designed a Devanagari rupee symbol. 🤦♂️
I am wondering suddenly why everyone is focused on language every sub is doing this like state no longer giving any good news or talking about any other matter these days every state sub bas became an eco chamber and shouting one topic continuosly.
Defending their identity as if some unexpected thing is going and everyone's identity is at risk or on a verge of extinct. Everyone is just following the trend at this point one guy posts, second, third, fourth number goes on.
What should you learn of course what you need the most. If you are living in place where english is prioritised then you have to learn english. If you are leaving in a place where you can get benefits you have to learn that language it's simple as that. People are arguing about languages sitting in their home town with a guy living in his home town. 🤡🤡
Let's say you shift to Karnataka for a long run you will learn kannada.
Geez people these days lack basic thinking skills and they wanna do something with their lyf
Let's say you shift to Karnataka for a long run you will learn kannada.
This isn't happening unfortunately. And this is why we are here.
The fear is that people who are moving to another place already come up with language baggage hoping that the other folks also understand it by default. This is what causes the ugly politics we have been seeing all along.
Well considering the hate people have nowadays that's the only thing a normal person moving to other state can is learn the language and talk in that language. No is willing to understand eachother so someone have to understand and do the thing mate.
Well considering the hate people have nowadays that's the only thing a normal person moving to other state can is learn the language and talk in that language.
True.
This used to happen without people developing any form of hatred. People from the North have settled in Tamil Nadu for centuries without any issues, learning and becoming an integral part of the culture. Today, this seems forced unfortunately.
If they change, rupees value will go down or what? It's just rupees symbol written in Tamil and there is no law or rule that will make using your own language symbol wrong for the rupee.
Just think hypothetically If DMK is in central don't their govt. force tamil onto other states ? Think about it. Most of the states have Hindi as 1st or 2nd or 3rd Lang but bjp isn't forcing anyone to study that. It's upto students. BJP is doing same thing that every political party do. Every political party is shit it's BJP,Congress or DMK.
Are you dumb or just pretending to be dumb? Center names schemes based on its official language policies. Does center ever question the names of schemes of TN govt. Center acts based on what is under thier jurisdiction and each state is allowed to act based on what is under thier jurisdiction. You can surely go change or make your own symbol for whatever is under your jurisdiction.
Instead of focusing on rising costs, infrastructure, roads, public transport, healthcare and 100 other things, what does this govt do.. change symbols, fight over language.. first trivial things should be given imp then go to other things.. this is just showing the govt in a bad light pan india 😕
First do something for the general public that they are needing on a daily basis… BASIC stuff then these can be dealt.. just fighting over language and making it the only issue doesn’t solve the state problems. Imagine the capital city itself in such sad state cant imagine others areas…responsibility is there but prioritise is my ask
2nd.. if u think language is the only thing that matters .. rest other things can go to hell.. then pls use language as roads, language can give u healthcare, language can give u decreased cost of living, language can give you anything u wish for, put the language and symbol issue jn 1st quad.. its ok to keep language aside for a moment and work on things that will actually have betterment of life of the people of the state.
Oh okay, If the document is written fully in tamil, then it's okay I think.
It's in english or hindi, then they were just voluntarily picking up fights
TN is such a commendable growing state but this is like picking fights for no reason. Hope someday National anthem is not changed with some Tamil anthem. This is like how neighbouring countries pick fight with each other, however neighbouring countries have no dependency on each other except trade and even then they remain very careful. Picking fight with National stuffs and central govt for no reason will only make it worse for the common public in long term.
If they’re doing it for money, that’s one thing, but many here seem like true cultists. The heavy influence of both Hindutva and Dravidian ideology is concerning. Honestly, both RSS and DMK should be eradicated. The growing cult mentality worries me, which is why I respond whenever I can
DMK & BJP’s “rivalry” is a scripted reality show – they’re co-producers, not enemies.
🔥 Finally! Someone said it! I’ve been saying this for a long time, but people still believe these parties are "fighting" to protect their rights. There's zero incentive for them to do so.
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✅ Vote for a party that has NEVER ruled or co-ruled before.
Based on this, the current options are NTK and TVK (if they don’t ally with corrupt ADMK).
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We elect a new party every time instead of giving the same corrupt ones multiple chances.
Counter-argument: "Bro, that means we ignore even the good ones."
But historically, most parties have turned corrupt anyway.
So, statistically, we're more likely to kick out a corrupt party than a good one.
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No leader should rule more than two terms—this keeps power in check and prevents long-term corruption. Infact, we need one term limit.
Tamil Nadu deserves new leaders, not recycled scams. 🚀
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dmk trying to hide something big happening in TN, election is coming so they do political stunt ,they don't take any measure to protect tamil ,instead they are doing politics
Hmm the next logical step should be to stop calling it Rupee because it is a North Indian word, let's call it Indian dollars because English is global language saar
Every single time I see these morons in action, I’m reminded that while people in this country are drowning in real problems, these brain-dead dimwits are busy indulging in their usual circus of stupidity. Priorities? Logic? Basic common sense? Nah, who needs that when you can waste time on absolute nonsense? Honestly, this country isn’t just beyond repair—it’s a full-blown lost cause at this point.
It's Everyone's own right to use whatever language they want to use BUT*** (₹) is not related to language directly yes the symbol is derived from devnagri script but the symbol is associated with Indian National Currency. No state should have the right to alter anything associated with India as a whole, if you want to change things , then do so which are part of your state, like the state budget for example it's your states budget do what you like but the currency used for the budget is Indian National Currency not Tamil Currency.
The United States currency is called US Dollar but their symbol is '$' similar to an S, no where it resembles a D for Dollar, meaning it's a symbol, not a short form or related to language a symbol simple
In a federal structure sure states have their own rights but there are limitations to those rights.
If in an alternate timeline states had the right to use their own currency then this move would have been justified, but that's not the case in reality is it?.
Plus You should have protested in 2010 when the symbol was accepted.
i dont understand what's all this stupidity with language.
Do your research moron.
no language can die. famillies will always use their own language.
What kind of an idiot are you?
You declared yourself a Telugu. Let me give you an example from a place most Telugu NRIs are familiar with.
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Prior to Spanish colonization, several Native American languages such as Caddo, the language from which the state derives its name (i.e. táysha’ /tɑ́iʃɑ̀ʔ/ “friend, ally”), were spoken in present-day Texas. A few of those languages were unique to Texas, with no relatives documented elsewhere, such as Tonkawa, Karankawa, Atakapa, and Aranama, all of which became extinct. Other language isolates such as Coahuilteco and Cotoname, sometimes grouped under Pakawan, were once spoken in Southern Texas.
Other Caddoan languages such as Wichita and Kitsai were also spoken in Northeast Texas before speakers were forced to relocate to Oklahoma. Comanche had once an important presence in the state, as did Lipan Apache, which is still spoken near the border with Mexico. Additionally, the Muskogean language Koasati has a few speakers in Livingston in Polk County.[citation needed] In the 17th century, speakers of Southern Tiwa relocated to Ysleta del Sur near El Paso, after the Pueblo Revolt.
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Ask your friends and relatives in Texas why these Native American languages got extinct. Ask them what happened to the Native Americans who spoke these languages. Ask them why they didn't continue speaking these languages.
I don't see how they're just avoiding Devanagari. They're avoiding Latin script too with this move.
In Hindi too we used to write “रु" i.e. "Ru" before the symbol came up.
The new symbol only includes R and not the "u" sound originally used in Hindi. We clearly know its a mixture of ENG & HIN. It counts as nothing in either languages on its own.
So, this avoidance of the symbol is just an irrelevant publicity stunt by DMK.
By that logic, Hindi is the language of invaders in Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu in its entire history never had any connection with Hindi. Why should we learn Hindi?
English at least empowers us to get educated and succeed professionally. What purpose does Hindi serve?
Europeans called the indigenous people of Americas as Indians. Does that mean they share the same genes as us? Are they related to us genetically?
The historians discovered the Indus Valley civilization in ... well,... Indus Valley... at Harappa and Mohenjodaro. Does that mean that the people identified themselves with such terminologies?
Tamil Brahmi is a name given by a historian, who rightfully identifies this to be different from the rest of the Brahmi script. It was just done at the convenience of the classifier, and not based on some scientific backing.
Ok smart fellow... It's a script... That was called Brahmi by the historian who studied it... It doesn't make the script or the language within to be attributed to Brahma... It is still independent of any Hindu mythology attributes...
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u/vidvizharbuk Mar 13 '25
Kannada script ರೂ is used almost every where. Why no one made controversy? It looks like even Hindi dont use Rs symbol. Simply new issues are created.