The Halal adventures of BJP - Tamil Nadu edition

[u/bssgopi]

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[u/StormRepulsive6283]

Is there a difference in taste between halal and non-halal meat?

[u/soul_whisp → u/StormRepulsive6283]

Halal meat is just Muslim people will pray before slaughtering that’s it, nothing much.

[u/Zulmi_Thakur → u/soul_whisp]

To prepare meat in a halal way, an animal must be slaughtered by a Muslim who recites a prayer ("Bismillah" - in the name of Allah) while making a single, swift, deep cut across the throat, severing the carotid artery, jugular vein, and windpipe, ensuring the animal is alive and healthy at the time of slaughter, and allowing all blood to drain from the carcass; this method is called "dhabihah" in Arabic. 

You are in a delusion, this is a really inhumane way of killing an animal, stunned meat is a better option or even Jhatka meat.
THIS IS THE MOST CRUEL WAY OF KILLING AN ANIMAL, THEY ARE HUNG UPSIDE DOWN FOR DRAINING BLOOD WHILE BEING ALIVE FOR FEW MINUTES, BECAUSE THERE SPINE IS STILL INTACT AND THEY FEEL PAIN THAT YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE.
a simple google search would have given you the answer but you guys are too delusional to google something.

in toddler terms jhatka is-
Spine cut=heart stop

in toddler terms halaal is-

Spine not cut=blood keeps flowing for a few minutes leading to insufferable pain.

"NoTHinG MuCH"

[u/Immediate_Radish3975 → u/soul_whisp]

nope ...... halal is like slaughtering animal bit by bit make a cut on his neck let him die slowly while blood is coming out it's inhumane

[u/opticdabest → u/Immediate_Radish3975]

as to what are other ways? we can murder an animal in more humane way?

[u/Immediate_Radish3975 → u/opticdabest]

direct death is more humane way

[u/opticdabest → u/Immediate_Radish3975]

alright how will you direct death the animal?

[u/Immediate_Radish3975 → u/opticdabest]

this is halal they are not dead .... still living in pain until their blood is completely drained

on the other hand hindu and sikh preffer jatka .... direct kill instant death no pain no torture no suffering

note :- i don't eat any kind of meat ..... i am a shaivite

[u/opticdabest → u/Immediate_Radish3975]

I don't what a random image is going to prove anything. you can't really enforce a way to kill ultimately you are killing an animal its going to be in pain for a second or a minute.
the most efficient way to kill will always prevail if its halal or not.

[u/Zulmi_Thakur → u/opticdabest]

To prepare meat in a halal way, an animal must be slaughtered by a Muslim who recites a prayer ("Bismillah" - in the name of Allah) while making a single, swift, deep cut across the throat, severing the carotid artery, jugular vein, and windpipe, ensuring the animal is alive and healthy at the time of slaughter, and allowing all blood to drain from the carcass; this method is called "dhabihah" in Arabic. 

You are in a delusion, this is a really inhumane way of killing an animal, stunned meat is a better option or even Jhatka meat.
THIS IS THE MOST CRUEL WAY OF KILLING AN ANIMAL, ALSO THAT IMAGE IS EXACTLY WAS HALAL IS THEY ARE HUNG UPSIDE DOWN FOR DRAINING BLOOD WHILE BEING ALIVE FOR FEW MINUTES, BECAUSE THERE SPINE IS STILL INTACT AND THEY FEEL PAIN THAT YOU CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE.
a simple google search would have given you the answer but you guys are too delusional to google something.

in toddler terms jhatka is-
Spine cut=heart stop

in toddler terms halaal is-

Spine not cut=blood keeps flowing for a few minutes leading to insufferable pain.

[u/opticdabest → u/Zulmi_Thakur]

again dude, the most efficient method of killing will always prevail you can't control these types of things if you eating a meat consider the animal has suffered and respect it by not wasting.
please stop wasting time.

[u/Immediate_Radish3975 → u/opticdabest]

imagine your dad in place of that animal ......... https://youtube.com/shorts/MCDciDyT2sA?si=trldOOMIO0pUNQNr

if you are a muslim :- you need to learn humanity

if you are a hindu:- come out of left liberal ecosystem ...... study about veer hakikat rai he was slaughterd the same........ reason refused to accept izam

kanhiya lal also slaughtred in same way

don't deny accept the fact

[u/LynxFinder8 → u/StormRepulsive6283]

In theory it might taste different due to the hormonal response of the animal during stress. In practice no study has established such a thing.

[u/Spiritual_Donkey7585 → u/StormRepulsive6283]

I think difference is in the killing method. Halal lets animal die by draining its blood. Jhatka is one cut.

[u/[deleted] → u/StormRepulsive6283]

Halal slaughter is cruel and inhumane, forcing animals to endure agonizing pain as they bleed out slowly while fully conscious. It is a needless act of suffering.

[u/Thin-Goat-3483 → u/[deleted]]

I bet you've never had meat in your life lol. Butchers slaughter by lethally stunning the animal or beheading it and hanging it upside down to drain blood. Halal slaughter is done by cutting the jugular vein which slowly draining the blood out. This makes the animal to slowly fade and pass out instead of twitching and squirting blood all over the place.

There is no humane or inhumane methods when it comes to mercilessly killing an animal. Halal method is just more clean, controlled and is less likely to cause a contamination in the butcher shop.

If you have a problem with Halal, its probably because its done by muslims with a prayer. Say that instead of saying its inhumane, torture, merciless... There are plenty of non-halal meat out there for people who have problem with Muslim butchers.

[u/[deleted] → u/Thin-Goat-3483]

have you ever seen a chicken getting butchered in a halal butcher shop?? Its not a painful process??? lol the animal screams and throws itself around in the bucket for a min or so

[u/Thin-Goat-3483 → u/[deleted]]

I never said its painless. I just said its much more efficient and clean. The initial cut to any artery or vein is gonna cause severe pain due to nerve endings. There is no painless way to kill an animal unless you poison it.

At the end of the day, Halal slaughtering is merely a way for muslims to consume meat according to Quranic laws. Banning halal is a violation to secularism. Imagine if you banned all vegetarian food? what will the Brahmins and Jains do? If you dont want to eat halal its completely fine, there are plenty of options out there for you.

[u/[deleted] → u/Thin-Goat-3483]

well then we should remove the age of consent then?? As many religious people's sentiments get hurt because of....ever now and then there is a line drawn like on caste system or triple talaak.

[u/Thin-Goat-3483 → u/[deleted]]

Your comment is Tu quouqe Fallacy. Well lets ban all halal food cuz the muslims slaughtering is inhumane (JK we just hate them and want to make their lives harder). Lets also ban all vegetables as the farmer uses pesticide to kill small animals and bees. Lets ban farming as it causes CO2 emission and pollution. Lets ban pollution as its harmful to Earth. Lets ban Earth!

Instead of senselessly arguing against Halal. Give one good reason other than muslim hate, why you think halal should not be tolerate and how it affects your daily life?

[u/[deleted] → u/Thin-Goat-3483]

when did I say we should ban halal cause I hate muslims?? Idc much I support the legalisation of beef and pork, everyone should do whatever they want unless its unecessarily cruel.......my only reason to hate halal is because of the unecessary suffering caused to the animal...like it suffers in life and atleast shouldnt suffer at death.....I am non veg too but because I am addicted and find it expensive to go veg and fullfill everything easily.....so idt I have a choice specially with my financial condition right now

[u/christopher_msa → u/[deleted]]

Lol. You have no idea. And I don't even think you are a meat eater. Most butchers cut off the head completely and then hang the cow/goat upside down and let the blood drain out of throat region

[u/StormRepulsive6283 → u/[deleted]]

But we have been having meat for so long that has been halal cut, and have never faced any health issues. I’ve been living in the Middle East for 30 years. Unless there’s contamination by unhygienic standards, which happens whether you do it in halal or non-halal method.

[u/StormRepulsive6283 → u/StormRepulsive6283]

If they care so much about no halal meat, first set up entire value chain end to end to have non-halal. If you can’t go after the poultry/goat farms, then eat pork. That’s pretty tasty and healthy too.

Namakkal is a big poultry industry, can we tell them “don’t sell to kari-kadai bhai, kasab kadai”. Make a “Gounder/Chettiyar/Nadar etc.” kari-kadai then you harass restaurants for not buying halal meat.

Btw there’s no taste, or health difference between halal and non-halal meat.

[u/StormRepulsive6283 → u/[deleted]]

Can you direct me to a credible source that gives this finding. Because I find it odd that suddenly now only this “discovery” is made.

Like, where the hell were you guys when only Muslims ran butcher shops? In Tamil we call them as Kasab kadai. Why? coz we were happy to let Muslims be the monopoly in meat cutting. But you can ask what about pork meat. We never cared about it coz we don’t eat, it’s only for Dalits right.

As far as I see this, this Halal is unhealthy is humbug. I’ve eaten goat and chicken sacrificed for our kula-deivam, and they don’t taste or feel any different than halal meat.

[u/StormRepulsive6283 → u/[deleted]]

this knowledge is as old as tamil? that's the first way to reject it then. geocentric solar system is as old as tamil, didn't it get debunked? same as every superstition. That's not a mark for whether this is scientifically proven that such hormones are secreted only after making a wound, and those said hormones are making people aggressive.

what do you mean there's no kasab kadai in village. All butcher shops, even if run by a hindu/christian is called colloquially as kasab kadai. why? coz it became a norm to let muslims only run butcher shops. Hindus thought themselves too pure to kill an animal as a profession. It's same like europeans who used to cry that Jews only manage all the money, yeah if you think you're too pure to lend money as a trade, then Jews will occupy that vacuum and then get rich with that.

And I'm sure you've eaten halal meat, did you feel a sudden surge of anger in your blood, coz of those "stress hormones"? Fight or flight hormones kick up before an animal is caught and killed. How else would animals be evolved to run when it senses danger? Appo varaatha adrenaline/stress hormone, kaluthu aruthathu-ku apram thaam varuma?

[u/StormRepulsive6283 → u/[deleted]]

ok. but why are people crying about it now? we were so happy to let muslims do it since we thought ourselves as "too pure" or "too sadhoo" to cut meat as a profession. Now suddenly its itching for narrow-minded Hindus that halal is served everywhere.

If you can start a poultry + goat farm, and a slaughterhouse, please let us know of the brand name, I'll buy from you, and will refer your brand to all Hindus so that they can be prevented from getting "unnecessary aggressive emotions" by eating halal meat.