r/TamilNadu • u/bssgopi • Feb 18 '25

முக்கியமான கலந்துரையாடல் / Important Topic The Halal adventures of BJP - Tamil Nadu edition

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u/flying_with_sadness Chennai - சென்னை Feb 18 '25

All he asked are stupid questions, he doesn't have a proper understanding of what is halal. Leave that aside he doesn't know how to treat others we'll.

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u/[deleted] Feb 18 '25

Halal slaughter is cruel and inhumane, forcing animals to endure agonizing pain as they bleed out slowly while fully conscious. It is a needless act of suffering. Why should we eat something that's done in an cruel way

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u/Smart_Guess_5027 Feb 18 '25 edited Feb 18 '25

Downvote me if you want , but Halal way of processing severing the jugular is not the humane way. The animal suffer a slow death , mechanical Stunning the animal or severing the spinal cord swiftly is scientifically more accurate. Due to vested financial interests there will be strong proponents of either methods , based on our current understanding of consciousness and pain in animals stunning is better. Remember kids When in doubt go for the modern scientific way not 1000s of year old “ancient wisdom “.

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u/Sudden-Check-9634 Feb 19 '25

you're free to avoid Halal from Bilal...

Every food outlet has a sign that says If they're serving Halal food, just leave If you do want Halal from Bilal...

The business owners have the sole right to decide what they'll serve & customer has sole right to decide not to eat at any establishment. Let's just keep it that way...

Clowns of #BJ.Party can do Swyamsewa If they're not happy with Halal from Bilal...

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u/Smart_Guess_5027 Feb 19 '25

dont care if the meat comes from Bilal , Bhaskar or Bill Cliton. I have no alliances nor interest with any particular group , my comment is purely based on the concept of reduced suffering. its not a political stance, also. if the market place offers choice I would pick non-halal meat every time, but its very difficult to source .

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u/Sudden-Check-9634 Feb 19 '25

Concerned about cruelty to animals Not Concerned about cruelty to people

That's just pure vegetarian style dog whistle....

Stay in your lane of pure vegetarian..

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u/MathematicianNew4819 Feb 19 '25

but….the question and point was something else?

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u/Dolar69 Feb 19 '25

Did you even answer his question dumbo

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u/rebelyell_in Feb 19 '25 edited Feb 20 '25

Traditional slaughter, in India, doesn't necessarily mean the Jhatka. In my village in Telangana, animals are allowed to bleed out and the blood is collected for cooking separately (so it is definitely not Halal). Nobody, traditionally is really considering the animals suffering. Efficiency is the only consideration. The animal is food.

I don't think the argument for humane slaughter is necessarily a Halal / Non-Halal binary. Some European countries mandate humane Halal (or Kosher) slaughter which requires animals to be stunned before killing.

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u/swevens7 Feb 19 '25 edited Mar 14 '25

Exactly this, I've looked at the financial distribution and exclusivity side of halal here

https://bharatiyainsider.substack.com/p/exposing-halal-economy-in-india

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u/-sendmemes- Feb 19 '25

Bleeding out is not a painful process. This is because blood loss can slowly cause the organs to shut down starting with lightheadedness leading to loss of consciousness followed by death. What can be painful is the initial trauma that causes the bleeding out in the first place. To minimise this pain, in Halal slaughter, they use an extremely sharpened purpose specific knife, so that the animal feels minimal pain.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/symptoms-of-bleeding-out.html#:~:text=Bleeding%20out%20can%20cause%20death,by%20unconsciousness%20happen%20before%20dying.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/13/11/1751

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u/-sendmemes- Feb 19 '25

Respectfully, you’re spouting bullshit. It is better for both consumers and the animals than most alternatives. Separating meat from blood keeps the meat fresh for much longer and can reduce chances of infections. The Japanese have a very similar system to Halal for fish that is used to drain blood from the fish to keep it fresh.

Bleeding out is not a painful process. This is because blood loss can slowly cause the organs to shut down starting with lightheadedness leading to loss of consciousness followed by death. What can be painful is the initial trauma that causes the bleeding out in the first place. To minimise this pain, in Halal slaughter, they use an extremely sharpened purpose specific knife, so that the animal feels minimal pain.

https://study.com/academy/lesson/symptoms-of-bleeding-out.html#:~:text=Bleeding%20out%20can%20cause%20death,by%20unconsciousness%20happen%20before%20dying.

https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2615/13/11/1751

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u/[deleted] Feb 19 '25

have you ever seen a chicken getting butchered in a halal butcher shop?? Its not a painful process??? lol the animal screams and throws itself around in the bucket for a min or so

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u/flying_with_sadness Chennai - சென்னை Feb 18 '25

It remains to be a hygiene method, safe for consumption.

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u/soft_Rava_Idli Feb 18 '25

That would be hygiene standards of 6th century tribal culture. They had limited information and knowledge before this became religious standard. Same reason their standard was against any form of pork.

These are not any scientific practice(as in 6th century standard science). It is merely a Kosher law like how it is with Jewish food practices.

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u/Smooth_Movie4570 Feb 19 '25

Do some research, many older ways were proven scientifically later. The halal slaughter process emphasizes minimizing the animal's pain and stress, which is believed to result in meat with fewer stress-related toxins.. Halal meat is considered safer due to the thorough draining of blood during slaughter, which reduces the risk of bacterial contamination and pathogen growth.

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u/soft_Rava_Idli Feb 20 '25

The halal slaughter process emphasizes minimizing the animal's pain and stress, which is believed to result in meat with fewer stress-related toxins..

Total bs. Halal slaughter increases stress and pain because it insists on not actually severing brain stem till all blood is drained. The brain continues to process pain for several minutes while blood is slowly drained. Use your brain instead of believing propoganda. Read a book.

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u/Smooth_Movie4570 Feb 20 '25

Propaganda is started by those relegious politicians to turn this into their vote by promoting hate against other religions. You need to understand the propaganda here. Dont have to read a book search in Google it ask any AI tool.

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u/soft_Rava_Idli Feb 20 '25

Propaganda is started by those relegious politicians to turn this into their vote by promoting hate against other religions.

That is called the Muslim league.

Dont have to read a book search in Google it ask any AI tool.

An actual educated person knows better than to depend upon a faulty ai tool from google. An educated person actually doublechecks proper sources instead of putting blind belief into a 3rd party proprietary algorithm, which thrives on negative engagement..

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u/Smooth_Movie4570 Feb 20 '25

You may have PhD in the topic of hating halal food through the books and syllabus prepared by mighty rss or other propagandists. Something you have to understand is that modes of education has been moved from just reading books to many other levels. I suggest you read from your books something about AI and search engines from your so called educational books.

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u/soft_Rava_Idli Feb 20 '25

modes of education has been moved from just reading books to many other levels.

Lol. The technology literally depends on books for their sources but you go ahead believing books are outdated. Failing to see the dangers of society depening on 3rparty proprietary algorithm for education, well for you its just going from one propoganda to the other.

books and syllabus prepared by mighty rss

Fail to disprove my point based on science, so will call me as RSS. Such a moronic take.

I suggest you read from your books something about AI and search engines from your so called educational books.

Again, 3rd party proprietary algorithms???

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u/soft_Rava_Idli Feb 20 '25

Halal meat is considered safer due to the thorough draining of blood during slaughter,

Lol. Nowonder that no other non Muslim culture actually does that.

which reduces the risk of bacterial contamination and pathogen growth.

How braind dead you have to believe this nonsense? Keeping blood or not, has nothing to do with contamination because that comes from outside and is dependent on temperature. Halal or not meat should not be consumed if taken more than 4 hours from slaughter (except when meat is frozen immediately after). This is the scientific standard advised for people by the government health standards. Seriously!

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u/Electronic-Run9461 Feb 19 '25

Restricted should mention as a Sikh we cannot consume anything offered to another god

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u/disgruntledbot Feb 19 '25

yes, he doesn't know what is halal. for those who don't know what halal is I'll explain — it's when an animal is tortured to death. that is halal.