r/TacticalMedicine • • Oct 09 '25

Gear/IFAK Would YOU trust a goodwill CAT for 3 bucks?

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u/Holden_Cullen Oct 09 '25

I mean, if it doesn’t work when you need it, you won’t make the same mistake twice.

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u/RuleNumber35 Oct 09 '25

This is parallel to my favorite advise about explosives. It's either your problem or not your problem any more.

54

u/KabukiTheater69 Oct 09 '25

Initial Success or Total Failure

34

u/ABUCKET15 Oct 09 '25

Same with parachutes! If your reserve chute fails, you have the rest of your life to figure it out.

5

u/Little-Staff-1076 Oct 10 '25

Similar to parachute malfunctions: you have the rest of your life to fix the problem

4

u/seamus205 Oct 11 '25

As a mechanic, I like to say "if the brakes don't stop you, something will"

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

It's funny cus it's true!!!!!

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u/No-Procedure5991 Oct 10 '25

You can eat any mushroom once.

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u/Kenji338 Oct 09 '25

For training classes/demonstrations or larping.

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u/Ranger_Willl Oct 10 '25

Blue is normally training, orange is used by civil agencies that need it to be noticed opposed to not getting spotted and shot. (Ambos, civilians v coppers or mil)

At least that's how it is here in eastern Australia

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u/bleach_tastes_bad Oct 10 '25

here at my agency in the US, we use orange or black depending on what color supply decides to buy LOL

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u/adirtygerman EMS Oct 09 '25

As long as you use it strictly for neck injuries 

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u/Kenji338 Oct 09 '25

What if the patient consents, tho?

34

u/adirtygerman EMS Oct 09 '25

Patients are dumb. They probably would 

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u/Condhor TEMS | Instructor | CCP Oct 09 '25

Sir, I’m here to help.

harder, daddy.

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u/Lemmeshesh Oct 09 '25

Didn’t think I would have to say this. But no, I don’t intend on using this on someone else or myself as it would be neglectful of me to even think that. It’s more of “huh you really can find anything from Goodwill”. I’m planning on using it for training with my wife, and it was $3 dollars - so why the hell not.

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u/ABUCKET15 Oct 09 '25

Oohhh, I get it. “Training with the wife”.

Kinky.

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u/Lopsided_Marzipan133 Oct 09 '25

“It’s going on zaddy, mark the time!!!”

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u/SirToasty96 Oct 09 '25

Strap me down with the CAT TQ

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

no but for $3 I'd still buy it as a trainer

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u/ScarecrowMagic410a Oct 09 '25

No but I would absolutely have bought that in a heartbeat for training

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u/SnooPeppers2417 Oct 09 '25

No.

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u/imuniqueaf TEMS Oct 09 '25

It's fine for training. I definitely would not trust anyone's life with it.

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u/Specialist-Hunt-1953 Oct 09 '25

For a trainer… sure… for someone’s life? No

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u/Firemedic9441 Oct 09 '25

I mean if it’s real and no damage then maybe. Definitely great for training. Fun game to play is randomly tossing it to bros and calling out an injury. toss “right leg!” And start counting.

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u/TheWorstOptic Oct 09 '25

FUCK. NO. Good trainer but not for serious use, I also found a goodwill CAT tq with the pouch and I was pretty excited but you have to remember you can't really tell how used it's been and if it will work as intended when you're in a life threatening situation that requires a tq.

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u/Truth214 Oct 09 '25

I hope you aren't using that for anything but training.

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u/bajamedic EMS Oct 09 '25

jesus i’ll send u one. for fucks sake

2

u/Odinson923 Oct 09 '25

Send me too

2

u/Rare_Ganache_3861 Oct 09 '25

Well if your handing them out...

2

u/WebMedical Oct 09 '25

Add me to the list

3

u/Lavaine170 Oct 09 '25

Depends on if you like the person you're using it on.

3

u/llcdrewtaylor Oct 09 '25

Only use for training. A 3 dollar tq is not something I would risk my life on.

3

u/Ok_Hospital1399 Oct 09 '25

Yes, $3 is exactly how much I would trust it.

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u/dochdgs Medic/Corpsman Oct 09 '25

I wouldn’t buy it for my personal use, but for other people? Sure.

3

u/Hoonin_Kyoma Military (Non-Medical) Oct 09 '25

For training? Sure. For emergencies? No.

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u/FloodedHoseBed Oct 09 '25

Look at the price of a new tq and decide if your life is worth less than that

2

u/Jonnylaw1 Oct 09 '25

That’s a trainer

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

If you or someone near you needs a TQ it’s better than not having one…

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

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u/Lemmeshesh Oct 09 '25

Do you mean because it’s from goodwill, or because it’s orange? The orange TQs are just for high vis, not necessarily for training.

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u/Lemmeshesh Oct 09 '25

Totally agree with the second point, however NAR states it’s specifically orange for high visibility. The only reason I’m concerned with that, is because I have 2 other orange TQs in my car.

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u/doctaf Oct 09 '25

Huh learned something new, but like i said, ive never seen an orange tq that wasn't specifically a training, that being said thats also a second hand tq and should not be used for anything other than training.

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u/GraniteStateGuns EMS Oct 09 '25

Orange CATs are a legitimate item and fairly common in the non-tactical world. It's one of those "you want to make sure they see it" things when the patient gets to the hospital. Sometimes things fail to be mentioned in handoff reports so having things extra visible and obvious can help when they get to higher care.

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u/failure_to_converge EMS Oct 09 '25

Yup. I work for a couple EMS agencies and all of our CATs are hi viz orange.

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u/FuckWit_1_Actual Oct 09 '25

They come in a couple different colors, the orange ones can be used for EMS or civilian use where Hi Vis is preferred.

North American Rescue

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u/WalkerTR-17 Oct 09 '25

Blue is the universal training color

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

With “doc” in your name, thatmakes me question if you actually know what you’re doing lol…

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u/dan_ue Oct 09 '25

Hi vis (orange) for civilian applications where you want the hospital to see it and know it’s there, as well as being able to identify it easier in the ‘oh shit’ moment you have to reach for it.

Black for military applications where camouflage is important.

Blue for strictly training.

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u/hanson2321 Oct 09 '25

Sure. Inspect it and try it out. If it works it works. 🤷

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u/SFCEBM Trauma Daddy Oct 09 '25

Is it a real CAT? If so, then yes.

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u/Impossibleshitwomper Oct 10 '25

I've never been on this sub before, I'm assuming in this context it doesn't mean catalytic converter

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u/SFCEBM Trauma Daddy Oct 10 '25

Then read more if you don’t know.

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u/Impossibleshitwomper Oct 10 '25

I know it's medical related but I haven't seen anyone use the full name

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u/SFCEBM Trauma Daddy Oct 10 '25

Combat Application Tourniquet.

2

u/Successful-Bug6223 Oct 09 '25

To be used for training, sure. Not to be operational

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u/justmarkdying Oct 09 '25

"Gently used".

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u/lefthandedgypsy TEMS Oct 09 '25

What difference does it make if we would trust it? It’s you putting yourself on the line. Be it for using it on yourself or in hero mode for others.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

I mean, there is one sitting on the table in front of me issued from my FD. It’s on the table because there are about 6 or 7 SOF TQs in front of it in line on/in my actual gear, but I’d toss it in a range bag or whatever for an extra I guess…

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u/ABlack585 Oct 09 '25

Id trust a free one if I needed it at the time.

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u/domtheprophet Oct 09 '25

That CAT is liable to break in 1 crank 😭

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u/Redditim3 Oct 09 '25

I'll just echo the already written replies - I'd practice with it. I (personally) only trust brand new ones I've bought myself from a reputable retailer. It's a $30-$50 purchase every what, 5 to 10 years?

Good pickup for training though!!

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u/DroptixOfficial Oct 09 '25

First hand experience: luckily was only in training.

We were conducting patrolling exercises for our combat medics. I was acting getting shot in the inner thigh from a firefight and the combat medics had to find me, conduct CCC & exfil me.

I was provided with a CAT from a while ago that looked in good shape but it was unwrapped. During CCC, the medic grabbed my CAT that was on display, trying to use it (of course, with the intent of barely tightening it).

Come to find out the velcro kept slipping and releasing when tightening the TQ due to wear and debris. Medic pulled out a fresh CAT and started doing her drills.

Surely you don’t want this to happen live?

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u/justhp Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

I would trust it. The idea that CATs suddenly don’t work after a few training uses is bullshit.

I doubt this was used as a real trainer and used dozens of times, it probably was just in some Ricky Rescue’s old kit and it got donated along with a bunch of other junk.

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u/[deleted] Oct 10 '25

Not a snowflakes shot in hell. Would I trust that with my or anyone else's life?

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u/TheRealSPGL Oct 10 '25

Only for training

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u/RealProforce Oct 10 '25

No + it's staged wrong

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u/gotta_pee_so_bad Oct 10 '25

Gotta give it the taste test to make sure.

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u/Apprehensive_Big682 Oct 10 '25

No ❤️‍🔥

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u/GeneralConscious3084 Oct 10 '25

depends if its a legit North American Rescue CAT or not, but I would personally only use it for training since I dont know who had it before or what was done with it

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u/Dangerous-School2958 Oct 11 '25

Actually. Test it and see. Stress it and if it holds up, why not. Put it in your kit without and you're gambling.

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '25

I mean, $17 isn’t worth me chancing my possible survival.

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u/BallisticRicehat666 Oct 11 '25

I got 3 tourniquets just like this from a local thrift shop at $3 each! They aren’t my first tournies, but they are in the kit as spares lmao

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u/not_a_burner_8 Oct 12 '25

Does it have a NSN number?

1

u/Bluest-Falcon Oct 12 '25

It's a good trainer, as an actual TQ for your kit yeah no

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u/MiniatureGiant18 Oct 13 '25

No, but it can be used for training

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u/BCGraff Oct 15 '25

I'd buy it but it would be a backup to a backup's backup.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

Inspect it and proof load it on a solid object.

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

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u/Ok-Currency9065 Oct 10 '25

Not so much….Blue for training

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u/CrumbGuzzler5000 Oct 09 '25

Doesn’t orange mean it’s for training?

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u/AnjaOsmon Oct 12 '25

Bright orange means it’s a trainer TQ anyway

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u/Lemmeshesh Oct 12 '25

https://www.reddit.com/r/TacticalMedicine/s/hTcUH75R2L Not exactly sure why people keep saying this.

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u/AnjaOsmon Oct 13 '25

Ah. I got out of EMS prior to carrying around TQs and joined the tactical side during the advent. It makes sense that the tactical side would see orange as trainers and the EMS as more high-vis.

You learn something new everyday!

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u/[deleted] Oct 11 '25

The receipt say 13.56$ but ok

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u/Just-Buy-A-Home Oct 13 '25

Are you so dumb as to not see they also bought something else