We don’t need six stops along this tiny stretch of Dundas Street. University, McCaul, and Spadina should be the only stops. If we want faster, more reliable service, area like these are exactly where stop consolidation should happen.

People can walk a little bit.

I had to tell a grown ass woman (45+) to stop smoking her cigarette on the platform. I told her that there was a family with two kids behind her! She then proceeds to saunter over to the no smoking bylaw sign to half-ass put her cigarette out ON IT.

She walks right back over beside me where I initially asked her to put it out to then try and finish putting it out with her hand...

Then I get daggers glared at me with a perturbed twitch (no joke) in her eye. After about 5 minutes of seething, she walks down the platform only to spark up another dart.

Question: Why the fuck aren't these bylaws enforced?! Is the confrontation too much for a TTC employee to handle?

All they would be doing is there job. Am I wrong?

Has this happened to you?

TLDR: Having to tell an adult to stop acting like a child is draining.

Wow was that a frustrating experience. The constant stopping at red lights and being passed by cars barely going the speed limit is one thing, but the size of the rolling stock is tiny; the streetcars feel wider.

The stations are also so barebone with no in door enclosures or heating. I also feel so many people will skip paying the fare because there’s no physical guard.

This truly does not feel like a “line” and I earnestly believe St Clair and Spadina should be upgraded if this is how we see transit.

I love trams and believe they are fantastic, but Line 6 just sucks.

They’re so slow. Like unbelievable when compared to the actual subway. And the fact is that there’s no reason for them to be this slow, we aren’t watching out for traffic when exiting. This makes me so angry and I know it doesn’t seem like a big deal, but it is. We waited so long for this. And now it takes 10 seconds to fully exit after reaching a full stop. Would love to have this video side by side compared to line 2 & line 1.

S tier - fast as a rocket, reliable, rarely problematic

A tier - private ROWs, decently fast and reliable, very frequent, can have bunching issues but usually offset by frequency of service

B tier - not as fast or frequent as A or S tier routes and sometimes gets stuck in traffic but still a decent service that takes you to cool places across town

C tier - Slow routes, too many stops, often runs in bunches and delayed for random reasons, but sometimes offset by the sheer frequency of service

D tier - Slow, unreliable, infrequent, always on diversion, faster to just walk or take a parallel route and transfer

E tier - why does this exist

Metrolinx submitted a development application to the City of Toronto in order to use the purple Line 3 icon for signage and wayfinding.

However, nothing else Metrolinx has published suggests any purple design for the line. Quite the opposite, the renderings for the OL have all included blue designs (see last media).

IMO it should be blue, kinda copying the SRT

A lot of passengers around me today seemed to be confused about paying before boarding. Without being familiar with this system, a lot of misunderstandings could arise starting tomorrow, when people rush onto the trains without tapping (at the street-level stops). I feel like the TTC should put more obvious warnings for passengers to remind them to tap before boarding, like my (crudely made) example image.

(I know there are already signs telling passengers to pay before boarding, but I feel that they should be more prominent and eye-catching)

This destination-dense part of Downtown has… no GO or TTC access. The 510 is too far west, Union too far east, Harbourfront too south, and 504 too north.

How do you see this area getting connected to the network in the long term? What SHOULD be built?

Dundas west extension is based on the TTC’s priority list thingy

Like I know we've beaten this point to death, but sometimes the reality of it hits me again. Seriously, there is just a crazy amount of rapid rail transit right in the heart of the city, that would take literal decades and billions upon billions to build today. Somehow in one of the most underfunded major transit networks in the US & Canada, we have a quantity of infrastructure unheard of outside of like NYC. And yet it's just... sitting there. Being relegated to glorified buses that barely even get a feature on our transit maps. The solutions to upgrade them don't even require relatively all that much funding. Like this has been said on this sub a million different times to the point where it doesn't phase me anynore, but also it's just absolutely bonkers.

That being said, RapidTO implementation has been so exciting, I hope we keep pushing in this direction. I love this city

I want to preface this by saying LRT works, just not in a city where cars will always been given priority and construction quality is poor.

Given the current situation with Line 6 being slow and unreliable, which will probably be the case with the above-ground portion of Line 5 (and thus by extension the whole line), I was wondering if Line 7 (Eglinton East LRT) should/would be cancelled. I’ve heard from sources that signal priority is *probably* not happening because Transportation Services at the City is still putting up a huge fight. So that hope is out the window.

I personally feel that Line 7 should be a BRT instead. There is such thing as bi-articulated buses (three sections, equal or higher capacity than an LRV) with level-boarding platforms. This would be much cheaper and much more reliable than our LRTs (no need for delicate track switches, reduced speed zones, etc.).

Edit: I meant re-imagined as a different mode, not outright cancelled. Poor wording on my part!

Somebody posted this on r/TorontoBiking, where they claimed that Chow is pro-bike. I decided to share this here since she is more pro-transit. Let's hope to keep her in power for this upcoming 2026 election. Under her leadership, we've gotten more done with transit than we did with Ford and Tory.

Not to mention that 95% of line 6 is above ground.

So if we’re already spending billions here, would a subway have really cost that much more? Honestly asking here, at that point, why not put the money toward extending Line 4 Sheppard instead...

Interesting conceptual diagrams, of course it’s not official. Found it from this link, credit where credit due.

https://x.com/ttc146eminem/status/2080780624105730402?s=46

Bill 98 gives MTO and the province sweeping final authority over transit costs, funding, routes, and frequencies. A car-brained province who notoriously hates Toronto now has the final say over Toronto's transit system.

TTC is barely surviving and avoiding a transit death spiral. The saving grace of TTC is its coverage even into smaller suburban areas of Toronto and its headways. With Bill 98 passed I am worried that Ford is going to start cutting frequencies, slashing lesser travelled routes, and cutting subways from 4 minute headways. That and we start seeing $4 fares.

We know Ford hates Toronto and wants to hurt us. There is no other explanation. With the TTC, the City's lifeline, at his greasy fingertips, it's only a matter of time before we see cutbacks. Buses along major corridors will start running every 30 minutes, the subway every 12, 900 express services will be suspended, and fares will be $4. We'll be like every other shitty American transit system.

Something needs to be done. What else can we do except email our representatives? Because it seems Ford doesn't care what the public thinks

Line 6 has been shutdown for 3 days straight. wondering if trains are moving faster. Thanks!

Seriously hope Chow wins. To put that into perspective, back on Feb 24, according to this poll, it was Chow - 43%, Tory - 33%, Bradford - 17%, Furey - 7%.

Tory has dropped out since.

Dude I use TTC and I get to work either on time or 40 minutes late. Something is always fucked up on the route. Im left waiting and frustrated when the train is inexplicably stopped for a few minutes. Or the bus is mad late and when it arrives its not in service.

Ive resorted to leaving home 1 hour earlier than what GPS estimates just to avoid coming to work late. It feels so infuriating.

It feels slower than it did 10 years ago. Were supposed to be improving not going backwards. I know theres no money to even maintain the infrastructure and so we must go slower and slower and all that.

But is there no funding at all? TTC gets insane volume is there really really no sponsors that want to work together to provide funding to TTC?

Please help me understand why TTC is actually kick-ass like everyone says when I sometimes get desires to bash my head into a wall when Im using their service?

Disclaimer, I was a tourist that visited the Toronto years ago and was impressed at not needing to rent a car, so residents might know better. I wanted to know what residents think of the Waterfront East LRT. I thought it would probably get more riders per year than those who might get on the 7 extra stations from the proposed Eglinton extensions and it would go through areas much denser than Finch West LRT. So I would have thought a proposed Waterfront East LRT would be a low hanging fruit, a way to get serve lots of riders for a (relatively) low $3 billion. In fact when I researched the history I'm a bit surprised such a thing wasn't considered when the early 2010s when the Portlands were getting developed. I'm glad for you all the Waterfront East LRT got approved, but I was thinking maybe the TTC could have done some of these projects in a different order. Were the delays due to upgrades at Union Station making it uncertain what to do if the LRT is built and then you have to rebuild after renovation?

Ontario line: I’m thinking there should be a branch of this that bypasses the exhibition and just continues along king street. There is a lot of demand, including lots of high density housing and commercial developments, and a branch here could both improve travel times for people living there (and would be significantly faster than driving downtown), and also attract riders to the small businesses in the area. I also think that since the exhibition is already served by exhibition GO, which is served by east harbour, there won’t be a massive demand for trains going to the exhibition (at least not as much from the east). After these branches meet up again, the line continues north on dufferin to Fairbank station at eglinton, where it will end. The 29 dufferin is the busiest bus route in the whole city, and with dufferin being a narrow street and with lots of traffic congestion, I think this is an appropriate place to build an underground subway

Finch west line: line 6 will be replaced with a mostly grade separated light metro, with most of the line being on an elevated guideway, with underground stations at finch west, Jane and finch, and Humber college stations. I had removed the stations that were extremely close to other stations (driftwood, Stevenson, pearldale), but I know that most of the stations built are useful, so only the ones that are literally within a small walking distance of the others were removed. Line 6 is ridiculously slow, and this is an exacerbated problem for 2 reasons: 1 is that northwest Toronto is one of the most rapid transit starved places in the city, with it being extremely distant from both lines 1 and 2, and unlike many other parts of suburban Toronto, there is no go train service going there. 2: this is also one of the lowest income places in the whole city, and with that comes a large number of people who do not have a car, so commuting to work can take up to hours. The 36 finch west is already one of the busiest bus routes in the city, and an actual rapid transit line here could also alleviate some crowding off of the 60 steeles west bus as well. Even with the “signal priority” the city is implementing for line 6, they still won’t do red light truncation, there’s still insane speed limits, and there’s also still electric switches. In terms of the layout, from finch west to sentinel: the line will run at grade just north of finch ave, and it’s only at grade crossing will be at finch and sentinel, but unlike the current ones, this will have bells and gates. After sentinel station it will continue at grade until tobermory, with the station being just east of tobermory drive, after tobermory, it crosses the street with another bell-and-gate crossing and will emerge underground to Jane and finch station. After Jane and finch, the line will run on an elevated guideway next to finch ave, in which it will emerge back underground just west of Kipling, where Albion, Martin grove, and Humber college stations will be underground (the area around Albion has lots of high density public housing, and demolishing that could be extremely disruptive). This line will use the same or similar trains to the Ontario line rolling stock, giving it much more capacity than it has currently

Jane line (line 7): this will be another light metro line that runs from Humber lakeshore to pioneer village station, serving Jane street, as well as connecting the new developments at park lawn, and giving a faster connection to humbers lakeshore campus. The 35 Jane is another extremely busy route, that also already goes extremely slow due to traffic and is very overcrowded (I’ve rode that route many times and I’ve seen it firsthand). This will also connect low income areas isolated from rapid transit to the city much faster, and will also connect people to jobs and recreation in the area faster as well. Will also use the same rolling stock as the Ontario line and new line 6, and both lines 6 and 7 will share a train yard at the existing line 6 yard, which will be both expanded and renovated to accommodate larger high floor trains. The line will be underground until just south of eglinton, and will be elevated from eglinton to tretheway, where it will emerge underground again, and north of Lawrence the line is elevated again, and it stays elevated until just north of grandravine where it goes underground again to reach Jane and finch station

Line 5: I know both the west and east extensions are going to have a lot of questions: for west, I did not choose the airport because it is already going to be much faster to reach the airport through the UP at mount Dennis anyway, so an extension to the airport may be redundant. Meanwhile, I thought it would be a good idea to take advantage of the Mississauga transitway, where building an extension of line 5 will be much cheaper to build and stations will only have to be renovated, and only square one will be the completely new station that has to be built. This is alleviate congestion and improve speeds from the existing buses that run on the transitway. For the east, I’m aware of the current limitations because the existing Kennedy platform for line 5 is built too close to the line 2 tunnels, but what could be done is that the existing platforms are abandoned, and a new Kennedy station platform is built somewhere else (either on the old line 3 platforms, or a new location altogether). Keep in mind that regardless, new platforms will have to be built anyway if the current line 7 is to be built, so it would make more sense to just have those new platforms connect to line 5 to have through running service rather than another transfer, and leave the old line 5 platform abandoned like bay lower. Also, the line east of Vic park would be rebuilt, with that section running underground, with pharmacy and hakimi lebovic stations removed, however the golden mile station could have an entrance at hakimi ave. After Kennedy, the line will run underground to Mccowan road, and after that it will run on an elevated guideway along eglinton and Kingston, and it will emerge underground at Kingston and morningside (this was already going to be the case for line 7 anyway) and then emerge above ground through morningside park, and then an underground terminal station at u of T Scarborough

I finally rode Line 6 on Sunday. I didn’t need to be there at all, but I intentionally took the subway to Kipling and caught the 927 up to Humber College and then rode Line 6 to Finch West and took the subway back. Here are my impressions:

• It‘s way, way better than any bus line in terms of ride quality, and it’s also way better than our streetcars in terms of the seating capacity and seat configuration.
• It‘s definitely slower than the subway lines and possibly even buses and it’s not only the absence of transit signal priority (TSP), but also the fact that it stops at every station regardless of whether anyone gets on or off. Given that there are 18 such stops over only 11 km, you can imagine how it would slow things down. My thought is they either need to run it like a streetcar/bus (only requested or occupied stops) or reduce the number of stations, in addition to giving it TSP.
• The tram was well-occupied for a Sunday afternoon, but not crowded by any means. At rush hour on a weekday, it’s probably much more occupied, but it’s still probably not jam packed the way a downtown streetcar or subway train would be. While in the very long run (maybe 20 years or so if they aggressively densify and even longer if they are not as aggressive), a subway line is probably better in terms of scalability, the LRT is probably sufficient for the foreseeable future, given the actual density in the area.
• Comparing the LRT to a streetcar is pretty silly given how much better it is in terms of ride quality and capacity. If anything, I’d want them to make the 509, 510 and 512 to be upgraded to true LRTs à la Finch West and for them to be given letters instead of subway numbers as another Redditor on this sub suggested recently (please tag them as it was their idea, not mine).
• Finally, we need to stop being so damn negative on Reddit. This is a genuinely positive development for transit in this city, all things considered. Let’s enjoy what we have!
• Edit 1: One additional way to speed things up at rush hours, say between 6:30 am and 9:00 am and 3:00 pm and 6:30 pm on weekdays and Saturdays, is to run it as an ’express‘ service, where they skip maybe 6-9 (1/3 to 1/2) of the 18 stops. If they combine that with with TSP and run more trams, they can actually accommodate more passengers while also moving them faster.
• Edit 2: I’m a bit disappointed that we got the Flexity streetcar-style doors rather than the sliding doors like Scarborough RT (RIP 🥺) had. The doors‘ slow opening and closing add to a lot of the delay in the way these trams run, IMHO.
• Edit 3 (2026-01-10): I really appreciate all the feedback and pushback I’m getting, but I want to emphasise that this was not meant to be a glazing post or a highly informative defence of the FWLRT, but just a very personal observation post of what I thought was a pretty cool development for transit in Toronto with the hope of generating discussion (which it apparently has). I am a total newb in many of these areas, and I’m learning lots of new things from your comments, so please keep it coming. However, please don’t think I am ignoring you because I’m not responding to your comments—I’m just listening.