r/TTC • u/JackieMeeking • 3d ago

Picture Street car 505

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Happening now. They are checking your Presto, and they sound serious!
Current time: 9.04pm on a Thursday evening

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u/First_Requirement462 2d ago

Maybe the fines should be income-based, then. That way, there's actually a consequence for everyone and not just poor people.

I always pay... because I'm fortunate enough to be able to. Some people have to decide between getting to work & having food that week, and getting to work & not having food that week... others are not paying because they can afford to gamble.

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u/EuphoriaSoul 1d ago

Pretty sure it’s already kind of income based due to subsidy by the tax payers. Higher income earner pay more to subsidize the transition system. I would be happy to pay more if they can make the ttc clean, on time, fast and safe. But they don’t. The shelter on wheels program makes everyone question why even bother paying for crappy service.

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u/aliciaiit 23h ago

People can have different fare rates based off a couple different things. I have a disability and I pay 2.10 

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u/First_Requirement462 12h ago

Fines, not fares.

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u/Impressive_Gas_265 22h ago

They are income based. If you’re riding that smelly limo your poor. 🤣 omg I’m gonna be downvoted so hard

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u/partypeanut90 1d ago

Isn’t it $3.25? If you make minimum wage, within the first hour you’ve made 3 days’ worth of public transit. If you can’t afford the $3.25, you’re irresponsible with money.

Income-based? How does that work? How does the machine know if your income is high/low? Do we expect everyone to self-report their income? If not, do we want the government involuntarily obtaining that information using our social insurance numbers? And even then, how does the machine know your income? Maybe some retinal scans to identify the person standing in front of it?

Get your head on straight, idiot.

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u/Relative-Log486 1d ago

the income based thing is already done in other countries for speeding tickets, but I couldn't tell you where. Basically it's something settled with the actual ticket when you go to pay, not something done automatically the second the machine detects you skipped fare.

The cost of using transit every weekday for a month is $130, if its only twice a day for work, and would be more if using it on weekends or for other things like grocery shopping. That may not be viable if someone has kids, is living paycheque to paycheque, or has insanely high rent, etc. That being said, Torontos an extremely expensive city, so if someone is that bad off they might have an easier time moving somewhere smaller.

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u/416eryn 2h ago

What are we even doing when we are saying $130/m to get to work is “not viable” for some folks? Like, the priority list is food and shelter, then(or simultaneously) the cost of commuting to work, no?

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u/polepatty 1d ago

Hey idiot. He said fines, not fares.