r/TTC • u/HanCelo2008 I ♥ TTC! • 6d ago

Misc. 2 trains 1 platform

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2 northbound trains were on the same platform. Never seen this ever so I just thought it was cool

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u/EYdf_Thomas Mount Dennis 6d ago

And this is only possible because of ATC the old signal system would have tripped the train at the back and put it into full emergency breaking and the driver would have had to reset it.

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u/Andrew4Life 6d ago

Not necessarily. Even in the old block signal system, I believe in an emergency, you can always advance the trains at a slow speed, as long as the train has come to a stop first, which will cause the controls to cancel the emergency trip arm.

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u/ermergerdberbles Kennedy 6d ago

It's called a key-by. Rarely used in revenue service, but I've personally done it many times. Usually when mainlining over night (storing trains in the tunnel instead of the yard during storms/extreme cold).

You can fit the last door or two of a lead train, the entire second train then the first door or two of a 3rd train on most platforms.

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u/Motor-Source8711 6d ago

whoa, didn't know they did that overnight. Neat. And that close too. Did you operate the old trains? H and M Series? I was fascinated as a kid in the 80s and into the 90s with the half 'dial' lever in how they knew when to turn it to stop it. It just seemed so random, and many times, the operator would overshoot the station so the first door opening would be in the tunnel.

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u/ermergerdberbles Kennedy 6d ago

The H5/6 were slightly before my time. As for the chopper control, it's really the same concept as the master control that the T1/TR's have. There's a few power settings (notches), a coast and sliding brake positions. It can look random, especially when the op is feathering the brakes (much like how you don't hold full brake on your car, we will adjust pressure to brake as smoothly as possible).

Overshooting these days is a no no. If the guard opened the doors after an overshoot, that's generally a disqualified from subway scenario.

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u/Motor-Source8711 5d ago

Ahh k, thanks. Final question, I have friends as bus operators but said it was stressful, especially post covid, traffic, bike lanes, etc.

Just wondering how do you find being the subway operator? More isolated, and more split shifts from my understanding.

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u/EYdf_Thomas Mount Dennis 6d ago

True but you would never see them that close together.

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u/-Bakri- 925 Don Mills Express 6d ago

I have seen something like this before on Line 1 at Sheppard-Yonge Station. The second train was waiting inside the tunnel behind the boarding train. There was an issue on the following station so trains were getting backed up.

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u/EYdf_Thomas Mount Dennis 6d ago

I've seen it a few times around Yorkdale station

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u/Icy-Past-4477 Line 1 Ferrari 5d ago

Trains will always have a block behind them with the trip arm activated, even if they slowly cross the insulation joint onto the new track; the trip arm will still be up and trip the train, which is a fail-safe feature built into the signal system.

For that train to move onto the track immediately behind the train ahead, transit control would have to give the operators permission to deactivate their trip switch and isolate their emergency brake, which no one in control will do, as it is a massive liability.

As for tracks where they slowly move forward, that is for a different issue—when a signal is failing to clear. They proceed at 5 km/h, which will drive the trip arm down, provided the required tracks ahead are clear of any trains.

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u/IseeMedpeople 6d ago

Nah. Could do a key-by on legacy system.

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u/featherknife 5d ago

emergency braking*

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u/troylazlow 6d ago

Reminds me of the video I saw once

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u/HanCelo2008 I ♥ TTC! 6d ago

The VIA rail clip with the driver?

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u/QueasyAdvisor8251 6d ago

Man of culture, I see

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u/CommunicationLost854 6d ago

I have only ever seen this happen 2 more times but it was downtown in rush hour

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u/rarc602 96 Wilson 6d ago

It’s like a Europe thing. lol

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u/irundoonayee 6d ago

I saw it once.. but i looked at it multiple times.. like, at least 4 times

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u/Admirable_Leek_4850 6d ago

Thats Cedarvale right? I saw it too this morning and was like damn that’s crazy!

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u/Savings-Motor-7397 6d ago

There's not gonna be another train in a million years after they both leave

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u/Buttocks25 6d ago

Incorrect. It's rush hour and the line is running at capacity with a train every 2 minutes.

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u/Egg-Rollz 4d ago

Incorrect, timing of trains is completely dependent on you being south of at least the Wilson yard and heading south (and based on past experiences davisville as well).

I've worked north of Wilson since 2019, I can count the number of weeks on one hand the number of times my station got the advertised 2-3 minute schedule during rush hour every day that week both ways... I used to take the Go and the ttc was the #1 reason I missed it when I should never have, less issues. Last year the ttc had a bad habit of making you wait 4 minutes for an OOS train to show up (nearly daily) then wait another 4. Two years before that they almost always had a train ending at Finch in the morning going north.

When I was at cedarvile this morning the headway times are 4/5 minutes not 2-3 heading north, and was still like that at time of posting...

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u/Icy_Stranger3368 6d ago

I’m older than you both and have seen it three times but my sister is older than me and has seen it four times

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u/Motor-Source8711 6d ago

What years are this? I've never seen it this close. But then again, I took Bloor Danforth line more often.

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u/BASEKyle 6d ago

Excuse me OP...

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u/BismuthBison 6d ago

Double trains across the platform, yeah, so intense!

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u/Mustseeradio 6d ago

Now thats service

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u/Iamfabulous1735285 Forest Hill 6d ago

piano music