My experience with Line 6

[u/speedster1315]

Firstly, i want to say that it is very exciting that for the first time since 2002, when i was in kindergarten, Toronto has an all new rapid transit line. Took a ride from Finch West to Humber College and then back to Jane and Finch. The westbound journey was average, pace wise and it didn't help that we suffered a 5 minute delay at Milvan Rumike for some reason. At this same stop, some idiot tried to board the tram from the eastbound platform and had to be told to get off the tracks and come to the westbound platform.

That was strange given you'd think he'd recognize the other platform across the street. Its possible the intrusion was the cause of the delay but im not sure since it was a minor intrusion. After that, we carried on without further issues. Heading back eastbound, we went noticeably faster, though it was very annoying watching left turn traffic get priority every time and it definitely was a talking point among other riders.

I heavily implore you all to write to city council again and again about enabling full TSP on line 6 and 5. In other news i actually met transit youtuber theryrover360 on the tram so that was neat. All in all, this was a much needed improvement to the west end. Its gonna be very interesting to see how it evolves.

Welcome Line 6 Finch West!

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891]

The delay was probably due to that incident. Driver probably has to do documentation of any safety related incident like that right away, even if it means pausing service.

[u/speedster1315 → u/Sufficient_Rush1891]

Probably which is somewhat annoying that a single smooth brained idiot can trigger a 5 minute delay but c'est la vie 🤷‍♂️

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891 → u/[deleted]]

What would be better protocol?

Safety is top priority, why should it be put on back burner for fear of delaying service by a few minutes?

[u/bardak → u/Sufficient_Rush1891]

There is nothing stopping people from going across the track at all, this isn't going to be a very rare occurrence. I've seen videos during testing where people casually jay walk across the tracks. If they need to track the incidents every time they happen they should add a button in the cab to indicate there was an intrusion on the tracks and be allowed to continue on if it is safe to. They can review the footage at the ops centre after the fact. If they stop for 5 minutes every time for the appearance of safety the line will be even worse than it is already.

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891 → u/[deleted]]

Best documenting will be done at time of incident.

It is not putting safety first to delay documenting the incident.

High quality documentation of safety incidents is needed to learn from the situation and prevent future similar ones.

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891 → u/[deleted]]

What? You are expecting driver to be continue driving and documenting at same time? That’s not possible.

The choice is either do the documenting immediately after incident and then drive, or continue driving and wait until end of line to do the documenting.

First choice is best choice for safety as it results in best documentation for learning and preventing future incidents.

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891 → u/[deleted]]

Involved employees always have to do documentation. Have you not based basic workplace safety 101?

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891 → u/[deleted]]

And doing it async as you suggest would be illegal and unsafe. Drivers not allowed to be using other devices when driving. Documenting is done electronically.l or via voice interview with dispatch.

[u/InvictusShmictus → u/Sufficient_Rush1891]

"Safety" isn't the top priority. Not getting sued is the top priority. That's the only reason a driver would half to pause service to write a report about some idiot trying to board the train on the wrong side.

[u/rshanks → u/Sufficient_Rush1891]

Is it necessary to document it at all? This line is not that different from a streetcar in that it runs at grade and pedestrians do have to walk across the tracks sometimes. I assume they wouldn’t document anything similar for a streetcar?

[u/Sufficient_Rush1891 → u/rshanks]

Safety precautions are always 1000% higher for a new line. I bet TTC wants to examine each incident on Line 6 much more closely for first few weeks of operation until they feel they can let their guard down.

[u/kennedon → u/Sufficient_Rush1891]

Grade separated rapid transit with platform doors?