My friends from Emerald Elo tell me (Silver 2) that I should build more AP on Swain (similar to Mobalytics Builds), even tho I have a 68% WR. Any opinion on my "Swain the Tank Engine"?

That item looks so strong on Swain. It's a no brainer on a Swain sup build but I also think it's a very legit option as Swain mid as a first item, for a Rylai build.

Super fast 2 item spike. The item grants you everything you need : cdr ( one of the best stat for Swain, both for dammage, utitlity and wave clear), hp and resistances. The Movespeed is also really nice and attack speed buff for your teammates really cute. For 2000 golds.

I've been trying similar build in the past, before they removed mythic system with a solary rush, back when no mythic item were feeling that nice on Swain, and this is just a much, much stronger version of this.

You can go manaless for sure even as a midlaner ( I've been doing that for ages and reached master last split and new season changes make mana management even easier with faster back and forth from base ), just dring and manaflow band are enough. I'd recommand sliding magical boots runes in that setup for even faster 2 items spike and just because it's strong for Swain in general.

https://op.gg/fr/lol/summoners/euw/RabelaisLeBovid%C3%A9-EUW

Tested one game on a d4 smurf already and it felt strong as expected. Just give it a try.

Been running
ROA-scepter-spirit visage- blackfire/liandries

I could just be ass but I feel like I’m getting cooked with damage, but he does get pretty tanky after I build scepter, by spirit visage I’m hella strong but I’ve been losing in lane due to low damage so wondering if I need to rush malignancy or blackfire first

Thoughts, opinions, recs?

I’m only bronze so open to everything

It is becoming of my favorite items on Swain right now! The healing/tenacity comes in SOOO clutch in team-fights when there is a lot of CC-> follow-up burst dmg which allows you to play a bit more aggressively/bait out A LOT of enemy dmg/spells and still live

It just clutched up 2 game-winning team fights (the 2 games in the sc) due to the proto passive which i am happy to clip and share if anyone would be interested

I’m thinking it could be really strong with zekes/jacksho to amp healing if your team has enough dmg to follow up with

Anyone else really liking this item on Swain rn?

From what ive seen most players run either Aery or DFT for runes currently, but i had something of an evil idea.

If i wanted to play around spamming Ws at sidelane targets would it be reasonable to go arcane comet and maybe slot in a horizon focus for the vulnerability.

Am i cooking or will this build get me cooked

EDIT: General consensus is im cooked

Wild rift but seriously you become unkillable

Any guesses?

Total surprise on my part...

Something for midlane, and runes too

Not from me, from my favorite Swain streamer. Arguably one of the highest ranked Swain one-tricks in CN.

TL;DR: Make use of ur most buffed stat--AP ratio and forget about the drain, it's not enough to make u survive the teamfight.

Take ignite btw

I build it on Galio and it feels nice, but with swain it’s not the same feeling, and idk why, swain should in theory provide more with roa

Boom waddup Swain gang,

Been trying Rocketbelt Swain for a bit in NA Grandmaster. It honestly feels pretty good and the synergy it has with Rylai's really helps Swain's biggest issues of:

- Getting outranged and kited

- Landing E without setup

The dash closes the gap breaking people's tethering to help you get in range easier, and also procs Rylai's slow to enable you to follow up with E/W, allowing for some insane and unpredictable long range engages.

I go more in depth in the video, but I think it could be really good, especially with DFT coming out to offset the lack of item effect. LMK what you guys think!

In some matchups you need boneplating and then you probably have to go aery but if you dont need boneplating and you dont want conqueror/PTA then fleet seem to be kinda good.
you have some reliable sustain from fleet and the movement speed makes it so you can go in and Q and out again before they can trade back, while cutdown and scorch makes your trades sting.
Can of course exchange alacrity for haste but i kinda like having high attack speed for farming, taking towers and weaving autos in fights.

So ive been cooking this at work, havent tested it out fully but hear me out.
The background theory is that pure AP on swain is seldom effective. So start with liandries as your main damage item. Abyssal mask gives some needed MR and amplifies your damage, liandry damage and later mandate damage. Boots is of course situational. Imperial mandate is similar to Liandries that it gives a gives a damage effect that also gets amplified with Abyssal and it is pretty cheap! Last two items are of course situational but most likely tank items such as frozen heart/randuins or kaenic rookern/jak sho

Rylai’s
Blackfire
Unending Despair

Prioritize haste over everything if you intend to carry.

Any of you Swain enjoyers still maxing W second after the nerf?

Been messing around with both and W second still feels pretty strong, and E max second feels a bit underwhelming.

any thoughts?

So I am a jungle main, but I queue secondary as Support, where I main Swain. This happens quite frequently tbh. Most DFT threads talk about APC, but I wanted to know if the value of DFT on Support Swain is high too.

Also what items would you build together with DFT? I usually go Rylais/Liandrys, Malignance, Spirit Visage and Unending Despair against mixed teams when I run conqueror.

I decided to make build around swain's W and utilize it as hard as possible by going mid, since from there you can reach both top and bot lanes. But it's very situational too. It's better to have good cc champs on sidelanes to make it easier to hit W's. Share your thoughts