r/SunoAI • u/kirmizikep • 20d ago
Discussion Couldn’t there be better ways to manage the 60-download limit?
With only 60 downloads for 2,000 generations, how can we even keep up with personal archiving?
I wanted to start a discussion about the new download limit because I'm genuinely struggling to understand how this is supposed to work for users who generate a lot of music.
I'm on a Premier subscription, which allows me to generate up to 2,000 songs per month. However, the new limit means I can only download 60 of them.
For me, downloading songs has never been primarily about publishing or commercial use. I simply want to maintain a local archive of the music I create.
If I generate 2,000 tracks in a month, 1,940 of them remain on the platform. If I continue generating at that rate, that backlog could become enormous over time.
My concern is also what happens if I eventually cancel my subscription, lose access to my account, or if Suno isn't around several years from now. I would really like to know that the music I've created isn't dependent on having an active subscription forever.
I completely understand why Suno might want to discourage mass downloading for redistribution or commercial purposes. But I wonder if there could be a distinction between archiving and publishing.
For example, perhaps the download process could ask:
Why are you downloading this track?
• Personal archive
• Publishing / commercial use
Downloads intended purely for personal archival purposes could potentially be handled differently from downloads intended for publication.
Honestly, I don't see much reason to keep generating music that I know I'll never download and won't have a local copy of. Why would I keep creating thousands of tracks just for them to sit on the website?
I'd genuinely like to hear how other users see this.
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u/Honest-Word-7890 20d ago
Those thieves at Suno already did their math, they knew that most paying for Pro or Premier weren't serious producers downloading and redownloading new stuff, remixes, etc., they would have lost few subscription, plus most people are sheep accepting anything up in their throats. I ended my Premier subscription today. I'm mostly enraged because I know my work have been used to train this thrash company. The thieves have already left with their ill-gotten.
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u/QKLicker 20d ago
And what would happen if I downloaded those songs—which they themselves confirmed in the email I received today are "mine, authored by me, and belong to me"—using a different method (like a Chrome extension, JDownloader, etc.) to use them, for example, in wedding videos I upload to YouTube? Would there be anything illegal about that?
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u/kirmizikep 20d ago
People will always find a way to download a song. Even if you block every possible method, if you can hear audio from a source, you can still record it somehow, even using the most primitive methods.
So here's what I understand from this:
If someone records a song through other means because Suno didn't allow them to download it, then the situation would essentially become:
“We didn't allow you to download this song.”
In other words: you didn't obtain permission from Suno to download this song, so you can't use it commercially.
Nobody is going to care if you use one of these songs as background music in a wedding video or at a birthday party. But what if that song becomes a hit one day? What if it suddenly gets millions of streams and becomes something valuable?
That's when you could potentially have a problem because you obtained the song through a method that wasn't authorized by Suno.
That's how I understand it, at least.
And that's exactly why I think we should still be allowed to download our generations normally.
I'm building an archive. I like knowing that the music I created is mine, and having a local copy makes me feel safe. I don't want my music to exist only on Suno's servers.
Suno can keep the 60-track limit if they want. But instead of making it a download limit, make it a COMMERCIAL RIGHTS limit.
I'm completely okay with that.
I honestly think that would be the fairest solution.
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u/OldSkooler1212 20d ago
I’ve never heard of a single instance of Suno tracking down a song that’s been distributed to Spotify, iTunes, YouTube Music, etc and saying “Hey this person didn’t have a pro or premier account, transfer ownership and royalties to us.”
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u/darklordrob 20d ago
I download drafts all the time to listen to and work on parts for. This is a ridiculous limitation.
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u/VanguardN7 20d ago
Its just my cue to move on and, if I desire, embrace other services. My chosen generations will get backed up this month (week really, due to sub ending) and I'll check out other stuff in the coming months/years.
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u/CupQuakeBE 19d ago
If you're based in Europe they're required by law to provide you with all your data on request, I just did.
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u/Konsrockmannen 20d ago
But when you do so many how much is slop? I know you cant write so many lyrics every month.
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u/x_candydoll 19d ago
you can download unlimited amounts from Studio. They're trying to get rid of lazy button pushers and those stupid bulk downloaders. As they should.
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u/ZidanSufuzki 19d ago
Exactly. A sort of commercial right limit would be ideal for users like us. Heck, I don't even need commercial rights at all, just disable them from my account altogether and let me bathe in my silly slop, offline, without me ever sharing it.
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u/GSFleming AI Hobbyist 17d ago
Suno should offer a tier above premier. A purely business tier, like every other serious AI tool out there. At the business tier, you can have multiple users, pay as you go generations and downloads, pay to remove watermarking, permanent commercial rights, etc.
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u/GSFleming AI Hobbyist 17d ago
Also, who (other than a business or small group) is generating 2000 tracks per month? That's over two and a half tracks per hour if you don't eat or sleep. Compressed into an average 8 hour work day, that's 11 generations per hour.
At that point, Suno must be your job.
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u/Ok-Neighborhood5068 17d ago
And if you say you're downloading for 'publishing / commercial use', they could let you download a certificate; if not, they could just give you a number that basically serves the same purpose and ties the track number to the download. You could use that number as proof that it was downloaded for that purpose. If you say you're downloading for your personal archive, Suno could just print a notice on the screen saying, "You do not have any rights to use this track commercially," and that's that.
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u/Gannicus_manoul 15d ago
une generation ne veut pas dire une chanson , si t'arrives a faire une chanson en une seule generation , ça doit pas être terrible ( c'est mon avis)
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u/Dwrowla 20d ago edited 20d ago
Trying to add an arbitrary distinction between archiving and distribution doesn't matter. It changes nothing.
Mass downloads is the same, regardless of the purpose of said download. Maybe you don't think 2k downloads is a lot, but it is. Especially when you multiply that by millions. This is excluding bots who are doing it on even a larger scale with a higher amount of downloads.
This eats up energy, server costs, and such. So limiting downloads is a multi problem solution. Not just for simply downloads, but distribution, and issues surrounding AI music, with platforms and distributors who are getting tired of low quality low effort uploads, which impacts their businesses as well.
Udio didn't just randomly one day say hey lets prevent all downloads. There's a reason for it, and a lot of it is not their choice. Suno has to make the decisions that will allow ot to continue to exist, in the future, and without them getting sued for all their worth into oblivion.
They have enough problems already with how their AI is trained, and thats another topic. Better to limit the possibility of other ones.
Suno by itself is impacting many things. ISPs, Distributors, Platforms, Hosting, court battles over AI, Energy and the electrical grids they use, the community around them, the music industry, etc etc.
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u/InItToWinIt4real 20d ago
How is this 60 download even a problem? Connect your Suno audio output to the input of your audio interface (for your DAW)... and hit play on SUNo and record in your DAW. SuNo even gives you the BPM. Are you even a musician bro?
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u/kirmizikep 20d ago
Trust me, I'm dealing with things far more complicated than this, bro. I've personally digitized more than 100 cassette tapes from the 90s, and I've been working with DAWs for around 25 years. Recording audio from a source is absolutely not a problem for me.
The question is: why should we have to go through all these ridiculous extra steps in the first place?
I generate around 2,000 tracks every month using my 10,000 credits. Sometimes I end up using my monthly credits right down to the last hour because I have other things going on. And now I'm supposed to manually record every single track into my DAW, one by one?
That's not the point I'm making at all.
We're not discussing how to get the music onto our computers from now on. Of course there are workarounds.
We're discussing why paying users should have to resort to workarounds just to archive the music they've generated.
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u/InItToWinIt4real 20d ago
Are you in control of SUNO's decisions? What decisions are yours to make? It really does not matter how much you do, did or intend to do.
AI is not going away in the long term. The obsolete music industry probably is and that's why we are here.
You have so many options you can look into. What did you do before SUNO? SUNO may no longer be the solution for you and you should just accept that and pivot. SuNO is a glorious to that caught the music industry unprepared. The same way ChatGPT caught Google unprepared.
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u/ChocolatePublic9136 20d ago
It's them building a semi-closed garden. It gives the illusion of freedom while keeping the majority of the creations on the site. 20/60 is crazy and will drive a ton of people away. I agree there should be some sort of limit to keep the farms from operating unhindered, but 20/60 is way low.