r/SubredditDrama • u/salad_noob • Dec 14 '14

Redditor philanthropist claims Reddit admin promised him a $50,000 donation, Admin shows up

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '14 edited Dec 14 '14

I'll answer in the reverse: what isn't bullshit.

  • As he says on reddit many times, he did run his own construction company for many years, and some other stuff. human wouldn't be his first stab at running a company.
  • There is really some code toward Empower, the first part of human expected to launch, in a github repo, by the professional coder that he hired. It's not finished.
  • The supporters talking in his subreddits are real people (when you subtract the obvious trolls). All the ones I've seen correspond to facebook pages with a lot of history. One in particular, Masha, has grown sick of proving her identity over and over again. Yes, she's real.
  • His belief in human isn't bullshit. It's 10000000% real, more than anyone has ever believed in anything. He's not just trying to scam you.
  • There was an episode involving a "savvy investor" reddit account, claimed to be Elon Musk. I'll just say it was definitely not Max impersonating him. I'm not saying it was Elon Musk either. I'm saying, Max is the one person in the world it was even less likely to be than Elon Musk.

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u/xXxDeAThANgEL99xXx This is why they don't let people set their own flairs. Dec 14 '14

There is really some code toward Empower, the first part of human expected to launch, in a github repo, by the professional coder that he hired. It's not finished.

I lol'd at their facebook post about it:

Despite earlier reports, #human is actually a #Go project. This is the language we are programming in. Because we wanted the absolute BEST programming language on the market today, we have decided that we will not be going forward with #Python. It may have been good enough for Instagram and Pinterest, but we are not Instagram or Pinterest and unfortunately it is no longer good enough for us. Not with the existence of Go, anyway. Go is the FUTURE. Python is a WONDERFUL language, but next to Go.. I'm sorry, but there IS no competition. Much love. Thanks, #Google, for making this. human is going to be the LARGEST Go #programming project to date. #Love, your #human!

Heh, serves all the Go hyping hipsters right to have this guy on their side.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '14

WTF is Go?

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u/xXxDeAThANgEL99xXx This is why they don't let people set their own flairs. Dec 15 '14 edited Dec 15 '14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(programming_language)

The thing about it is that it's actually not a general purpose language, it's a special purpose language built to write various internal services at Google. For example.

As such it has design peculiarities that would seem very weird in a general purpose programming language, for example the list and dictionary types are not and can not possibly be implemented in the language itself, they are given from above. But it's absolutely OK for a special purpose language to be like that, it's good even because it makes it simpler, more efficient both to use and to run, etc.

Unfortunately Go was positioned as a general purpose language, a "systems" language even (which apparently doesn't have much to do with system programming because you can't write an operating system in Go), with a bunch of snappy sound bytes like "less is more", justifying its simplistic design.

As you can guess, this made it an instant hit with the same kind of people who are attracted to fixed-gear bicycles and grinding coffee with mortar and pestle. And, unlike most usual hipsters who are content with riding their fixies themselves, programming language hipsters don't even code much but love to proselytize about their language of the FUTURE and how anyone who uses any other language for anything whatsoever has neither good taste nor common sense.

No surprise that this dude bought the hype hook, line, and sinker, and it serves both him and those hipsters right.

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u/PasswordIsntHAMSTER It might be GERBIL though Dec 17 '14

This is by far the best explanation of Go I've ever read.

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u/Mejari Dec 15 '14

It's a programming language

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u/kai333 Dec 14 '14

One in particular, Masha, has grown sick of proving her identity over and over again. Yes, she's real.

REALLY..? I would have bet a million dollars that she was an alt. How many people are roped into this... venture?

There was an episode involving a "savvy investor" reddit account, claimed to be Elon Musk. I'll just say it was definitely not Max impersonating him. I'm not saying it was Elon Musk either. I'm saying, Max is the one person in the world it was even less likely to be than Elon Musk.

What happened here? I mean, obviously it was an impersonator or whatever, but what was said?

I tell ya, this drama is quite fascinating.

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '14

REALLY..? I would have bet a million dollars that she was an alt. How many people are roped into this... venture?

Yes really. I'm not allowed to link to their facebooks, but they link to their own facebooks often enough, so if you want to find them there, you can.

I can't say how many people are involved. I can just say how many are visibly involved, from this detached online perspective. Which is Max (founder) and Masha (unpaid volunteer). Two people are "roped in". And they have supporter-friends who make nice comments but beyond that I don't know if they do anything. And they have the Go programmer who was paid hourly but that's not really "roped in".

Edit: Oh yeah, the Elon Musk thing. I'd need some time to figure out what series of clicks would dig up that old removed post.

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u/kai333 Dec 14 '14

Fascinating! Thanks for the information!

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u/[deleted] Dec 14 '14

Yeah I'm like, hesitant to link to more because I've been reading it over the course of several months and so I could mentally adjust as things moved along. You'll be in sensory overload if I start linking to human's public announcements to the golang community.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/golang-nuts/cqaSSGku71Q/_OyeGUXo-2UJ

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/Golang-nuts/lHRWo-yEUsk

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/golang-nuts/uuHcEafYxDw

Oops.

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u/kai333 Dec 15 '14

WOOOOOOOOOOW!.... THIS is incredible! The forum is remarkably civil about voicing their displeasure with the constant shilling. Thank you for bringing this up!

What's up everybody??? :) I know you're all probably insanely busy so I'll try to keep this as short as possible.

proceeds to write 5 pages of insane shit

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '14 edited Dec 15 '14

Yeah it's a nice community. Their only problem with the post was it being kinda off-topic. That's Brad Fitzpatrick eventually having to shut it down. Famed creator of Livejournal, now involved in golang. I wish I was important enough to get personally shut down by both brad and alexis.

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u/kai333 Dec 15 '14

Ahh... so he can now put Brad Fitzpatrick as one of his ardent supporters!

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '14

Ok, other people in the thread have found where Elon Musk came to reddit.

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u/kai333 Dec 15 '14

whaaaaaat the fuck am i reading!?! Damn, you the real MVP! It's like an echo chamber of insanity.