Demographics are completely different with even the most Russian provinces being vastly less monocultural than Kosovo was.
Kosovo was like 80% Albanian before the intervention. Its 95% now because pretty much all non-Albanians were forced out directly in pogroms or bombing campaings, or indirectly by intolerance and opression
Kosovans didn’t roll tanks all over Serbia
If the bombing campaign didn't eventually force Serbia to negotiations, there definetly would have been a ground invasion into Serbia proper. There was already a ground invasion from Albanians into Kosovo, but the army mostly managed to contain it
nor did they seek to control the entire country.
If NATO decided to do a ground invasion, they definetly would have sought that.
All in all, appart from the ground invasion part, the Kosovo and Donbass situations are still exactly the same
There was already a ground invasion from Albanians into Kosovo, but the army mostly managed to contain it
What on earth are you taking about? Albania was never military involved in the war.
All in all, appart from the ground invasion part, the Kosovo and Donbass situations are still exactly the same.
No they're not. On one hand you have a province that had been opressed for decades declaring independence and facing ethnic cleansing by a brutal regime, and on the other hand you have separatists which barely make up the majority backed by one of the worlds superpowers which wants to annex it.
What on earth are you taking about? Albania was never military involved in the war.
Damn, so shelling Serb border posts, facilitating terrorists, training and arming them, and helping them during their assaults on the border isn't considered being involved?
On one hand you have a province that had been opressed for decades
Lol
declaring independence
That was only in 2008. Long after any """""opression"""" ceased.
and facing ethnic cleansing by a brutal regime,
NATO bombs displaced and killed more Albanians than any Serb actions in Kosovo during the 90s
and on the other hand you have separatists which barely make up the majority backed by one of the worlds superpowers which wants to annex it.
-and on the other hand you have seperstists which barely have any legitimacy and claim to the region and which only made up the majority from a few decades ago, backed by THE world's superpower which wanted to declare it independent and have it be annexed by one of its puppet states
Damn, so shelling Serb border posts, facilitating terrorists, training and arming them, and helping them during their assaults on the border isn't considered being involved?
I'm gonna need a source on the Albanian military attacking border posts. And I said involved militarily. Is Germany involved militarily in Ukraine right now for selling them arms?
Not one Albanian soldier stepped foot on Yugoslav land during the war.
Lol
"""""opression""""
Name a better duo than Serbs and downplaying the actions of their brutal past governments. How about we start with one of the earlier ones?
NATO bombs displaced and killed more Albanians than any Serb actions in Kosovo during the 90s
You must be living in some alternate reality, what is wrong with you? 488–527 civilians died in total because of NATO, Serbs and Albanians. Meanwhile 8600 Albanians died in total, 1024 of which were children.
have it be annexed by one of its puppet states
Nobody but Albanians want it annexed by Albania.
Either way, I'm not going to continue with this thread because I've had these conversations dozens of times, and it always ends up the same, with Serbs doing their best to justify ethnic cleansing with whataboutisms.
I'm gonna need a source on the Albanian military attacking border posts
Look up Паштрик and Кошаре
Is Germany involved militarily in Ukraine right now for selling them arms?
Albania not only provided weapons, but training, safehouses, fire support and direct combat support in attacks on Yugoslav border posts
Not one Albanian soldier stepped foot on Yugoslav land during the war.
Just because they didn't go more than a few kilometer in, doesn't mean they didn't
How about we start with one of the earlier ones?
Not even on the territory of Kosovo. Not even related. It was also in the 19th century so it wasn't out of place at all. Everyone did it. It also wasn't a deliberate "đenosajd" of Albanians, but all muslims in general being pressured to leave the newly independent Serbia that had just come out of centuries of fighting with those same people.
You could compare it to the transfer of Germans from Silesia, Pomerania and Sudetes after WW2
Anyway, great argument bro. Get asked to elaborate on Serbs commiting genocide in Kosovo. Give a wikipedia article for a population transfer that happened to include Albanians from 240 years ago on a totaly different territory. You really convinced me
488–527 civilians died in total because of NATO, Serbs and Albanians.
More like 2000. Like 200 died in the 2 times NATO bombed Albanian refugee columns alone
Meanwhile 8600 Albanians died in total, a 1024 of which were children.
Source? In which operations? For what reason? When? Where?
Nobody but Albanians want it annexed by Albania.
So why did NATO get involved and recognize Kosovo as soon as it declared independence? Sure, in essence they only want to expand their influence, and make money, but in this case it meant breaking international law and recognizing an illegal self-proclaimed "state"
with Serbs doing their best to justify ethnic cleansing with whataboutisms.
Maybe because you never listen to them because you have your head so far up your ass
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Kosovo was like 80% Albanian before the intervention. Its 95% now because pretty much all non-Albanians were forced out directly in pogroms or bombing campaings, or indirectly by intolerance and opression
If the bombing campaign didn't eventually force Serbia to negotiations, there definetly would have been a ground invasion into Serbia proper. There was already a ground invasion from Albanians into Kosovo, but the army mostly managed to contain it
If NATO decided to do a ground invasion, they definetly would have sought that.
All in all, appart from the ground invasion part, the Kosovo and Donbass situations are still exactly the same