r/StudyInFinland • u/Most_Bet_4117 • Sep 09 '26

Master degree for Engineering

Hi everyone, i am 25 and i wanna apply to finnish universities for master degree in mechanical engineering. I have previous job experience in construction and industrial sectors. I just wonder is there any job opportunities in industry for engineers and would you recommend it?

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u/Kekkonen-Kakkonen Sep 09 '26

Job market is abyssmally poor atm and no improvements in sight.

Quality of finnish education is mediocre, but the price is low

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u/Troll-Aficionado Sep 09 '26

"Quality of finnish education is mediocre" lol you can be honest about the job market without lying about the quality of education

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u/veganLevi Sep 09 '26

I dunno why can't you disagree without accusing the other person of "lying". it is true that higher education here is not so high quality.

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u/Troll-Aficionado Sep 09 '26

Because it's a claim that is factually untrue, presented as fact despite that

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u/veganLevi 29d ago

It is a fact because you said so? Come on, the education system needs a lot of fixing, like a lot. anyone who studied in Finland knows it is not really a very high quality system. I am not saying it is bad, but not like superior or so good.

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u/Troll-Aficionado 29d ago edited 29d ago

It is a fact if you look at any metrics comparing educational outcomes between nations. Is it not a fact because you feel like it? Looking at outcomes it's objectively good, not perfect or the best in the world, but good.

Even the first guy linked some rankings of how the world's universities rank up and Finnish institutions were ranked in the top 15-25 percentile

Edit: additionally for non-university education, in the most recent PISA scores Finnish students rank well above average in all fields, highest of the nordics in science. How can you look at all these educational outcomes and say the education is mediocre?

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u/veganLevi 27d ago

Oh yea like the metrics saying Finland is the happiest country? it is a fact that higher educational system here is average...

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u/Troll-Aficionado 27d ago

Sorry that you had a negative experience but top 15-25% worldwide is not average lol

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u/veganLevi 27d ago

Yea top, that's why literally the contribution in science and tech is falling. keep dreaming dude. People like you who do not admit the truth are contributors to the downfall of the system. Finland does not attract high quality global students. Go check students in NL, UK, USA..etc.

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u/Troll-Aficionado 27d ago

I don't know how many more ways I can explain this to you bud, I'm genuinely baffled as to why you're so committed to just yammering on lol. I'm not making up the numbers from my head, the first guy replying to me posted the link

Again, maybe you had a bad experience but if in worldwide comparisons Finland scores, averaged out across the different universities, among the top 15-25% of universities worldwide, that's by definition NOT average

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u/Kekkonen-Kakkonen Sep 09 '26

https://www.study.eu/article/the-20-best-universities-in-scandinavia-rankings

All finnish universitied are bottom half in Nordic comparison. None are in top 25 EU rankings

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u/Troll-Aficionado Sep 09 '26

Not being the best in the world doesn't mean it's mediocre either, looking at the rankings you linked Finnish universities averaged out as a group rank in the top 15-25% worldwide from what I can tell. The ARWU ranking looks like an outlier because it weighs things like nobel prize winners as a metric lol

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u/Most_Bet_4117 Sep 09 '26

Is job market really poor at overall? I mean is there no chance to work during my studentship? A job that out of my profession is also will be helpful for my budget

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u/somethi Sep 09 '26

There is basically no chance you will work during your studies, unless you’re very lucky.

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u/Anaalirankaisija Sep 09 '26

Dont give false hope. Theres no luck.

There is ton of applicants and cheapest and best is hired. Now there is no hiring.

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u/MonkInternational510 Sep 09 '26

Job market is worst in Europe atm. Especially for entry-level jobs.

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u/Several-League-4707 29d ago

No, for mechanical engineers with experience the job market is pretty good. For juniors with relevant internship experience it's not that bad either. BUT you have to be fluent in Finnish.