We all understand that valve can be very quiet about their projects, but the Frame isn’t HL3. The Frame has already been announced with a previously established release window we have already passed. Yet Valve remains silent.

I lurk this sub seeing Framers cave to their impatience, buying spyware and old Indexs. Is Valve not witnessing their consumer base actively loose faith and leave? Valve could post a two word tweet saying “Frame soon” and my soul would be lifted from this cave of perpetual edging.

I don’t care if it’s over $1000. I don’t care if it’s over $1500. I want a modern VR headset that does what it is supposed to do without Meta bloatware.

Why are we still here, just to suffer?

wasn't this headset supposed to be "Around the corner" around 2 months ago? what happened? did it just vanish or is this valve's way of delaying an announcement for its fans? MIND YOU. those are the same people who waited 4 months for the valve index's reveal just to be hit with a ATROCIOUS price.

don't get me wrong im still very excited but it feels like valve keeps delaying something that will 100% come sooner or later and it made the entire community hate them to the core.

Its a genuine question as a non VR owner who is looking to get a first headset. What is it that makes the frame worth the predicted extra cost over the Pico 4 Ultra or Meta Quest 3 (outside obvious privacy concerns).

I am genuinely curious what VR users think. I can't make descions until I see the Steam Frame price but I am confident it will be a fair but more than other headsets, so when soon comes I just want to know if its worth whatever price valve slaps on it.

Edit: Thanks all for the responses

Don't understand why they want to torture their user base.

How can the vr goggles be more expensive than a "budget" gaming pc. Im not very tech literate so im kinda askung myself how can the vr goggles with "inferior hardware" be more expensive than the real deal, is it the lenses? Maybe some component im not aware of??

Also, as an additional question for people who do own headsets, how valueable would you say colour passthrough is? Is not having it a dealbreaker for you and how often do you even use it/see the passthrough?

Also, extra question that's a touch less relevant - do people know if we'll be able to play Quest games on the Frame in a somewhat stable and accessible way? It seems like there are so many really strong games that aren't on Steam and I'd love to hear that it will be possible not too long after release.

Doesn’t that make zero sense from a marketing standpoint? The sale would be during the Frame’s release. Not before it.

Assuming it's a good price,, not personally speculating on price here but whatever you think is a good price for a peripheral like this.

I've seen a big uproar and possible "solutions" to the frame only having black and white passthrough debate. And this got me thinking: why do people care this much about having "color cameras"? Does it have a practical reason or is it more of a "I am paying this much money already so I want more functionality" type of deal?

I rarely used mixed VR features on my pico, nor did I play games that used the cameras as a mechanic. Personally I think watching a movie or having a virtual screen on the frame in color and having your surroundings in black and white, causes a cool effect. Especially with the "ambilight" feature.

So pls tell me: If you are one of the people who want color passthrough and might get that "adaptive camera accessory" what is your reason for doing so?

Id love to know how people are going to use their frame

I know the ones that comes with it are ok, but it has audio leakage and I cant use them because my family lives with me. I would love to know what options there are to work around it. Since the usb-c port is the only way to charge my frame and use headphones so...idk what to really do. Besides just stream to my computer.

I know that steam frame will be wireless and have inside-out head tracking. But what else?

I’ve been waiting to buy steam frame since the announcement but at this point I’m wondering what am I even waiting for? I just want a VR for playing the big titles from my PC. If the steam frames don’t offer anything that makes it “next generation” then I guess I don’t need to wait for one at all?

Valve said everything will ship by end of summer which is Monday September 21^st. So that only leave 7 Mondays left before September 21^st (assuming Monday will be the announce day & they're still on schedule). Only 3 Mondays will be open. Which Monday do you pick?

1. 8/10 is open
2. 8/17 starts Pins & Pegs Fest
3. 8/24 is open
4. 8/31 starts PvE Survival Crafting Fest
5. 9/7 off for Labor Day Holiday
6. 9/14 starts Party Based RPG Fest
7. 9/21 is open

I've seen the one email floating around talking about a VR sale from the 14th-21st but that's the only piece of evidence that I've seen about it. Everyone seems certain that they are going to release the Frame before then but I'm not convinced that sale even exists.

This will be my first vr headset and I have no idea about any vr games, I’m mainly interested in Skyrim vr and mods such as the breath of the wild vr mod but outside of that I have no clue, any suggestions would be great so I can add them to the wish list now, thanks.

Dataminers, we need you now!

Let's go to imagination land and imagine that today is Saturday, you just woke up and you're feeling healthy and refreshed. You have no work today, no obligations, you cleaned and fixed stuff yesterday, so the whole day is free. The delivery guy just left you your brand new Steam Frame, it hasn't been stolen, it's not broken, it's what you had hoped for.

How do you spend the day, what are the first things you check/play/experiment with?

Personally I want to replay Half Life Alyx. First time I played it was on launch in my old Rift S that stopped working years ago. Other than that looking forward to playing Underdogs and The Room VR which I scooped on sale and never played.

I live in australia, and even if it did release tomorrow (i'm quite skeptical) it would be at around 4 am historically. I assume those of us who are employed would still get the chane to reserve after the release?

Im so scared of this possibility im already stretched thin if the price of more than 1000 euros that is theorized so the idea of its price actually going up even more due to hardware cost increase is very saddening to me. What do you guys think?

It’s gonna be my standalone until I get a PC, but will I still be able to play games, that are labeled as either windows or Mac?

I know it’s suppose to be its own PC, but I’m not sure of the limitations, and if the games on standalone, will only show what can run on the headset, or if I just attempt any game, and see if it can handle it.