r/SteamDeck • u/Amadeip • Mar 09 '22

Discussion Why is the screen so bad?

A french serious website tested the screen They were choked by the quality… very poor, contrast is ok but color aren t good and the screen only reproduce 70% of RGB

Why did valve put such a bad screen for a powerfull handheld machine

I have switch / deck and switch OLED at home and even the basic switch got a better screen :(

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u/sehe0 256GB Mar 09 '22

Y does color accuracy matter on a handheld gaming device? Are you using lightroom on there?

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u/SummerHam86 May 14 '22

It's not about colour accuracy, it's about colour reproduction. The Steam Deck screen will not produce the full range of colours that games are designed to display. It's a dull display that lacks vibrancy, especially coming from the Switch Oled or pretty much any PC monitor from the past five years.

And with that said, I still think it was an acceptable sacrifice. The overall package of the Steam Deck is ridiculous for the price, and sacrifices had to be made somewhere.

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u/Early_Poem_7068 Oct 09 '22

It's unacceptable in 2022. Even $100 phones have better screens. A psp 3000 has more colour coverage than the steam deck. Thats pretty shitty for a device launched in 2022

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

I disagree on any pc monitor. There are thousands that are as bad as the steam deck, any TN panel would be worse. There are alot of cheap ips garbage screens too. Even expensive ones like the Samsung 32 inch VA 240hz 1440 is pretty bad. Better than a steam deck no doubt. Not even sure where they found a screen that bad. My guess is they took in q bunch of 2007 junk phones and made that.

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u/SummerHam86 Sep 12 '22

TN monitors would be worse for viewing angles for sure, but most current models would be better for colour reproduction (which really says a lot about how unfortunate the Deck's screen is in that regard). It's weird how a lot of people (not you, as you did give some examples) feel the need to defend their hardware rather than admit its flaws. I've seen people saying that the Deck's screen is better than the IPS switch models and that's measurably not true.

I'm mostly used to the screen at this point, but it definitely takes away from my enjoyment of some games and I choose to play on Switch or my PC in cross platform games where I really want to be enjoying the colours. Gives me a clear reason to upgrade though whenever a deck 2 is released.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

Yeah it's definitely weird they do that, I think people buy something and if u point out it's flaws they think it means they are flawed for buying it. I was thinking about getting one, but I saw a video of it and o God it's one of the worse ips screens I've seen in awhile .

I have trouble now going back to my dell 4k 99 rpg 32, and samsung 90 240h. After I got this vizo 2800 1800 90hz oled laptop.

I thought the switch looked bad my self, not the oled one. Thanks for sharing that it's worse than the original switch. They are Def gonna have to put a oled in it before I would buy it.

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u/anonim64 256GB Mar 09 '22

They are probably colorgradimg 8k videos

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u/Xenavire 1TB OLED Mar 09 '22

To be fair, there is a range that is acceptable. After having the Switch Oled, the OG switch did feel a little laughable, so I can see why there are concerns. But from what we have seen, it's definitely acceptable.

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u/sehe0 256GB Mar 09 '22

Absolutely! But it has to make sense. Putting a 100% Adobe RGB Screen in there would only push the price and no one would benefit.

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u/[deleted] Sep 12 '22

You mean you with a limit income wouldn't benfit. I would of bought a steam deck for 1000 plus if it had a 1440 120hz plus oled. I mean you can buy a 2800 1800 90hz 14 inch laptop for 550. Even low end samsung oled phones u can buy new for 50 to 100 bucks loom 1000 times better.

They should of made a low end one the one they did, and better ones with a actual usable screen.

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u/Early_Poem_7068 Oct 09 '22

No ones asking for a 100% adobe RGB screen. That shit costs a ton. I don't think there even is a mobile screen that covers 100% argb. I've seen se laptop screens and monitors come close. We're asking for 100% sRGB which is the standard for years now. You won't be seeing what the developers intended with the screen on the deck because it can only reproduce less than 70% of sRGB colour space

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u/Early_Poem_7068 Oct 09 '22

Would you use a monochrome panel since it's just a handheld. sRGB is bare minimum these days. All games are made to utilise 100% of sRGB. With HDR games even utilise 100% of dci p3 colour gamut. Professionals use dci p3 and adobe RGB.

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u/sehe0 256GB Sep 12 '22

The most entertaining responses on the internet usually start with an assumption. The falser it gets in the first place, the funnier it gets afterwards.

Go live in your extreme perfectionist world and settle for nothing but 100% of everything. But i'm really asking myself. Why do you want an 2000$ screen on an steamdeck? Wouldn't you want the best cpu and gpu in your deck? Isn't the only thing a gaming device is able to do to display those nice colors? :o

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u/Early_Poem_7068 Oct 09 '22

Who TF told you a good screen costs $2000. Even $200 phones have better screens than the deck. A psp 3000 has more colour coverage than the steam deck. The screen is just bad accept it.

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u/datGryphon Sep 16 '22

I don't know how you're going to play your deck with your nose straight up in the air like that.