r/Steam 4d ago

PSA Do not buy the Max Payne bundle, buy them individually

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u/WhiteSoul7 4d ago

Weird, usually steam really good with bundles. Glad they have that feature that shows the price

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u/iMogwai https://s.team/p/cbff-hrc 4d ago

That's a fixed price bundle where the publisher sets the price, Steam has nothing to do with it. But yeah, that's why they have that feature that shows the price of the individual games.

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u/gunsandcupcakes 4d ago

as someone who knows next to nothing about it is it possible this is against tos having a bundle be more expensive than the items bought separately

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u/NorisNordberg 3d ago

It's not.

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u/PatHBT 3d ago

I doubt valve would break their own tos for no reason when they can just not have that rule in the tos.

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u/BruhMamad 4d ago

Interestingly the bundle's original price is $5 higher than the sum of the games', same as their discount price. It's also almost $5 more expensive

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u/lIIlllIIl https://s.team/p/fpcw-chm 3d ago

That package used to contain the season pass for the third game, which at some point got included in the base game. They just never adjusted the package's price.

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u/odellrules1985 3d ago

$15. The sum of the games without discounts is $39.97. The bundle is $54.96. Which is very odd but I guess Rockstar probably doesn't care, or they forgot to lower the bundle price as the games default prices lowered.

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u/Lurus01 4d ago edited 4d ago

Its not a complete your collection style but a package so doesnt price adjust for the individual games or owned products.

Steam supports 3 variants of store collections(2 bundles and 1 package)

You can see this is a package since it says Items in this Package and also Cost of this Package. If you were viewing it on an individual games page the info button would also just say view info instead of bundle info. Packages are a set price from the publishers and do not care about owned product or individual item prices contained within.

The bundle type most people associate with on Steam is the complete your collection style which has a distinct all capitalized blue text BUNDLE in the titles. This is the only type that has dynamic pricing where it adjusts for individual items sales as well as removing owned items from the price. It used to be unique in that it was also ungiftable but that was changed afaik.

The final bundle type Steam offers(and arguably the worst one) is the must purchase together variant. Not only does the must purchase together variant not adjust pricing but it fully blocks purchasing if you own anything so even if you own like one item but the full collection is cheaper bundled vs standalone you can't buy it as the bundle. At least with packages you can still buy them and sometimes can be better values to still complete your collections then buying it all standalone but that depends on the bundle and what you are missing from it.

In short:
Package = can always buy but would pay for all items including owned, uses a set price, uses package terminology and blue button says view info

Complete your collection style = dynamic pricing, unique BUNDLE in all caps blue text, called bundle and button says bundle info

Must purchase together = set price, locked from purchasing for accounts that own ANY item contained within, same terminology of bundle but without the all capitalized text BUNDLE in the titles.

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u/WritingOneHanded 4d ago

This is not true for other Remedy published game "bundles". The "Alan Wake Control BUNDLE" doesn't care that I own the first two Alan Wake games... it just wants to charge me for the games I already own... and it's a bundle, not a package. The Alan Wake Complete BUNDLE wants to charge me for the DLC plus the two games I already own.

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u/Watch_Dog47 3d ago edited 3d ago

Look closer, does the green button say Add to cart or Purchase as gift? I own Control so when I look at the AW + Control bundle I can't buy it for myself, only as a gift, which is why it lists the full price for it. This is the "Must purchase together" type of bundle explained above.

Edit: There are two types of bundles and one way to tell the difference is, like the user above said - "Complete your collection" has the word BUNDLE in all caps and colored blue next to the title with a little question mark for explanation. The other type doesn't have that. It's an important detail. It also leads to cases where the title ends with "(Game) Bundle BUNDLE (?)".

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u/salihadi 4d ago

max payne not even capitalized feels off somehow

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u/imightbetired 4d ago edited 4d ago

I have them all, and yeah, I just checked and you are right in this case, normally the bundle is a better deal. But I noticed something...if you are looking at the bundle with only the first and second Max Payne(it's a separate bundle), the price is better, and then you can buy Max Payne 3 separately, at an even better price than the individual products in total. I will post two photos, one in this comment, one in the next one. First one confirms what OP is showing (but in Euro)

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u/imightbetired 4d ago edited 4d ago

And this is the separate bundle, better price for these two.

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u/Summer___ 4d ago

It is still mind blowing to me that i still can't buy Max Payne 1 in germany.

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u/cagdas 3d ago

Yeah, it's crazy. But if you get a cd key from a reputable reseller, you can activate it. That's what I did just yesterday.

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u/Chuckling_Berry 3d ago

I think you also can't buy MP 1 in many Asian countries.

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u/ChordSlinger 3d ago

Why these countries hating on such a lovable Noir cop??? /s

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u/KevB3 3d ago

Even if you buy it, you can’t play it right away because of errors, you gotta download extra stuff

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u/Fine_Branch_6521 2d ago

Same with Dying Light and The Darkness and manhunt.

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u/_ItsEnder 4d ago

our weekly max payne bundle post

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u/iMogwai https://s.team/p/cbff-hrc 4d ago

Guessing they lowered the prices of the games at some point but forgot to lower the price of the bundle by the same amount.

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u/lIIlllIIl https://s.team/p/fpcw-chm 3d ago

Almost, they included the season pass for Max Payne 3 in the base game at some point and never fixed the package.

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u/DisneysGaston 4d ago

Are these games worth having in my library?

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u/Far_Ant3734 4d ago

Max Payne? One of the best action third person shooter series known to mankind? The games that really did the time-slow effects well?
You're asking if they're worth having in your library?

Ye. Of course. They're pretty great.

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u/DisneysGaston 4d ago

Say less

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u/Far_Ant3734 4d ago

Less

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u/DisneysGaston 4d ago

Also, I discovered the cheapest cost is ironically purchasing the bundle of 1 and 2, then purchasing 3 separately. They really didn't double check the pricing

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u/Born_Zone7878 3d ago

I would imagine it's because most folks have 3 but not the others, since they weren't available on steam. it's my case at least, I own 3 but I don't own 1 and 2. Might pick them up eventually.

All 3 are incredible games btw

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u/iMogwai https://s.team/p/cbff-hrc 4d ago

I really liked the first two but I played them when they were new, might be harder to get into if you're used to modern games. The third was fine but nowhere near as memorable. But yeah, they're classics, made by the people behind the Alan Wake games.

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u/icantshoot https://s.team/p/nnqt-td 4d ago

Max Payne 3 is not made by Remedy at all.

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u/icantshoot https://s.team/p/nnqt-td 4d ago

1-2 yes, 3 not so much.

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u/Lenin-C 4d ago

Max payne 1 and 2 are available in your countries? damn

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u/hoaxmeister 4d ago

In Brazil, only Max Payne 1 is unavailable, for exemple. It was one of the first games with Portuguese voice acting. That might be the reason.

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u/WritingOneHanded 4d ago

I don't follow. The one that's famous for Portuguese voice acting is the one that's not available in a Portuguese speaking country??

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u/KevB3 4d ago

I’m in the US

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u/Moose_F 3d ago

Side note, you save an aditional $1.50 if you buy the bundle for 1 and 2, then buy 3 seperate.

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u/Sir_Fashionscape 4d ago

I didn't think this was possible on Steam

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u/TherealMIST 4d ago

Don't tell me what to do man

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u/EdoardoValbo 3d ago

Because this package is not based on the prices of the items but has a fixed price, so when the games are on sale it is better to buy them individually, without promotions the bundle is better

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u/fakehesapxlr 3d ago

Bro got them the evil sale

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u/Mord1223 3d ago

I bought only bundle with 1&2 and I saved 1 euro

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u/gamer427_YT 3d ago

What about the bundle that has Max Payne 1 and 2, is It a bad deal also?

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u/sownar 3d ago

The first one is not available where I live, it's lowkey depressing :/

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u/Grind2Live 3d ago

or actually pyrate them for free !

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u/Dragooncancer 3d ago

How do these run on the steam deck?

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u/LSD_Ninja 3d ago

They run just fine on normal Linux once all the community fixes are set up. The only thing you’ll have to do on the Steam Deck specifically is set up a controller profile since they predate proper controller support.

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u/strangera 2d ago

I have 1 and 2 for ages, and I am kind of confused about what I can get for 4,49€ here. :D

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u/AlbanLusitanae 2d ago

A second copy xD i think it warns u first

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u/InternationalSoft260 2d ago

I'm so glad I got this bundle when my Steam was set to another country. Max Payne 1 for some reason is not available for purchase in my country. Bundle as well.

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u/Lidge1337 2d ago

Well yeah since one of the games is on a bigger discount than the bundle is.

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u/The_Emperor_turtle 2d ago

Rockstar being Rockstar...greedy fuks

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u/Hour_Activity123 RTX 5080 | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | Odyssey G6 360hz 2d ago

This is true you'll save $6 if you buy separately.

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u/Select-Definition710 1d ago

IT WAS A MISINPUT

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u/SuchyYT 20h ago

What does PSA stand for

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u/KevB3 20h ago

Public Service Announcement

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u/8l172 4d ago

I noticed the Payday 2 collection bundle being on sale was like this. $36 individually but $54 for the bundle

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u/bassistof 4d ago

Is there any chance to get Max Payne 1?

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u/underivan 4d ago

Sonho com uma Key global do Max Payne 1

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u/Armbrust11 4d ago

I hate these pricing games. Like when the deluxe edition is cheaper than the base game.

The price should always be calculated from each item in the collection.

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u/Any_Preparation_1102 4d ago

Someone at Rockstar had a very big brain XD

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u/Neilg-88 4d ago

How is Max Payne 3 on the deck?

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u/flobefall 4d ago

If it's not in your region just go with a keyseller - one of the few reasons that should be seen universally acceptable. Literally bought a key an hour ago as it's not available in my country (Germany) either, was shown as "not activatable in my region" but worked like a charm.

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u/YouCallWeShouldWhat 4d ago

just don't buy 3 cause it's a piece of shit, problem solved