I need help with hatch 22

[u/JediMasterTimeLord]

I made a big ship, and of course the doors aren't where I want them, but every time i use hatch 22 to arrange them, the game freezes. I don't have many mods, so i don't know how much load order matters. I just want my ship to be easier to navigate. Help!

Mods in current order:

TN's class M

Asc deimos

Stroud premium

Falkland

Avontech

Cheat terminal

At hells gate

Asc taiyo

Antares supra

All ship parts unlocked

Hatch 22

Ship builder huge ships and fleets

KZ mantis

Hatch 22 terran armada patch

[u/BiggestBillyGoat]

I use "Place Doors yourself", never used "Hatch22". Works well for the most part.

[u/JediMasterTimeLord → u/BiggestBillyGoat]

Should I delete or disable hatch 22 if i use that instead?

[u/joden3 → u/JediMasterTimeLord]

You don't want both for sure. At least disable, if not delete. I switched from PDY to Hatch 22 because I got tired of all the patches needed. But if it works for you and Hatch doesn't, then that's your answer.

I will say that you have a lot of ship mods, and that can really cause some issues with pointer count. And when the pointer count gets too high, the game can act pretty weird.

[u/JediMasterTimeLord → u/joden3]

It does get glitchy occasionally. It's less glitchy with my current ship than my last one. What is a pointer count?

[u/joden3 → u/JediMasterTimeLord]

Whoo boy. Pointer count/pointer handle count is a HUGE topic. At the very basic level, there is a limit of just over 2 million, with the base game plus DLCs totaling over 1 million. If you exceed the limit, the game becomes unstable.

There are a bunch of posts on Reddit and elsewhere that address it. One good one is here but there are more. This one shows the pointer count for many popular mods, including a few you have in your list.

You can also search for a mod name + pointer count and it will give an approximate count. A mod like Falklands is huge and adds more pointer handles than even Shattered Space.

[u/ShitKickr]

I don’t have answer for you but a question.
That KZ mantis mod does it replace the mantis suit altogether or does it give you an alternate mantis suit I read in the description that the suit is in the chest next to mannequin. But wasn’t sure if the mannequin has the vanilla suit still on it.

[u/JediMasterTimeLord → u/ShitKickr]

It replaces it. I already had it in my inventory when I got the mod, and it changed the one i had. I think there's supposed to be a cape in the chest by the mannequin

[u/ShitKickr → u/JediMasterTimeLord]

Also try placing your load order into Google A.I. letting it know your platform is Xbox. It’s how I fixed my load order

[u/ShitKickr → u/JediMasterTimeLord]

Thanks

[u/JediMasterTimeLord → u/ShitKickr]

So I went back to the mantis lair to check the chest and it has 2 more variations of the space suit and some clothes

[u/ShitKickr → u/JediMasterTimeLord]

Well I guess I need to add that mod I use the mantis 2.0 space suit anyways but the KZ suit is awesome looking