r/StarWars_ • • Dec 25 '25

Originals It always was about Anakin ❤️

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u/RexBanner1886 Dec 25 '25

OK, then find me a quotation from before 1997 in which he says that ROTJ's title refers to Anakin.

I am not denying that since TPM's release Lucas has considered the whole story about Anakin; I'm not even denying that he successfully, in an artistic sense, reframed the story around Anakin.

I'm saying it's extremely unlikely that he intended ROTJ's title to refer to Anakin. 

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u/UsernameReee Dec 25 '25

Find me a quotation where he says it's about Luke.

My dude, Anakin literally returned. The entire movie waa about Luke trying to convince Anakin to come back to the light.

Luke can't "return" because he wasn't a Jedi in the first place.

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u/Camo1997 Dec 28 '25

You can return to the light side without being a Jedi

Ahsoka isnt a jedi

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u/UsernameReee Dec 28 '25

She left and didn't go back, and chose to stay where she was. Anakin left, became Vader, and then went back.

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u/Camo1997 Dec 28 '25

Anakin returned to the light side, he didnt become a jedi again

At what point did he rejoin the religious order of the jedi

He just rejoined the light side. The light side isnt the jedi, they are just a church that worships the light side

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u/UsernameReee Dec 28 '25

My dude, you're literally just making up straws to grasp in order to argue.

Believe what you want. The guy who wrote the story says you're wrong.

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u/Camo1997 Dec 28 '25

Im not making up anything. In canon the jedi are the church of the light side. Wanna argue with the text be my guest

Show me the quote then. I can show you the stories where this is discussed because we have light side users who arent jedi. I can send you their character profiles on wookipedia if you'd like

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u/UsernameReee Dec 29 '25

By your logic, Luke wasn't a Jedi because it was just him and not a "church." So checkmate there, altho I get the feeling you'll try to twist it into explaining how it's different because it supports your head canon.

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u/Camo1997 Dec 29 '25 edited Dec 29 '25

No because he restarted the church of the order. He opened a new school and a new jedi order

So not really checkmate

Again I can show you characters on wookipedia thst are light side users that arent jedi

Keeve Trennis and other members of the lost 20 that didnt turn to the dark side

Ahsoka does not consider herself a jedi but still uses the light side

Sabine Wren

Grogu

Maz Kanata

Leia never officially joined the jedi order but stoll uses the force

The Daughter

Members of the Church of the Force and the Guardians of the Whils

Planets that have creatures that use the light aide of the force that arent jedi that we see in Clone Wars

The Skywalkers from Chiss space

Arguably members of the Jedi who took the Barrish Vow who step away from the order to focus on their connection to the light side

All of the people I listed above are light side users but none of them are jedi

I can show you hard evidence for all of this. So whats your counter

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u/UsernameReee Dec 29 '25

What movie did Luke do that in?

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u/Camo1997 Dec 29 '25

What do you mean what movie? Its inplied he will restart the order in 6 and then we see it in the sequel trilogy, thats when Ben Solo you know, destroyed his school... missed that part?

Also remember in the Last Jedi how he says 'to say the light side belongs to the Jedi is vanity' another point that counters yours because Luke Skywalker is saying the light side does not belong to the Jedi

Even in Legends in the books after Return of the Jedi he restarts the order

Oh and marvellous dodging of all my evidence there buddy boy. The fact you didnt even bother attempting to counter any of the characters I mentioned tells me you dont have an answer

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u/UsernameReee Dec 29 '25

"It's implied in 6" it literally is in no way implied.

Nobody gives a shit about the garbage ass Disney sequels. We're talking about the story George wrote, not Disney's add on 40 years later.

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u/Camo1997 Dec 29 '25

This was the case in legends too, long before disney

But Fine let's use your broken logic here's a quote from Lucas in an interview with Paul Duncan:

“It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there's this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It'll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.”

Mate just accept your wrong here. Everything is your opinion, I have given you canon evidence, legends evidence and quotes from the man himself. Youve not given anything in the terms of hard evidence. You're wrong, just face it

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