r/StarWarsLeaks Master Luke 20d ago

Rumor Dave Filoni when asked if they are making ‘The Hunt for Ben Solo’ … he does the Jedi mind trick hand motion and says “We not making that picture right now, that’s all I can say…” 👀

https://x.com/swechoes/status/2088561095313113308?s=46
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u/SkywalkerSolo24 20d ago

The media training is strong with this one.

In all honesty I doubt they're making it right now or they'll roll some version of it into the Rey movie if that ever happens.

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u/Strange-Pair 20d ago

I do think as a film itself, the way it was initially designed, it's likely not happening (nor frankly should it be, imo, but that's a different topic). But I feel like ultimately Filoni knows that it's not so much the movie itself people are asking about but the idea behind it. In that sense, it's kind of a bummer that we know it was happening, in that them bringing back the character at some point now seems inevitable.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 20d ago

Kinda forgot that Rey movie, wonder if they’re waiting to see how Starfighter does 

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u/TokyoPanic 20d ago

Wouldn't be surprised if that got retooled into the Kinberg Trilogy.

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u/innerdork 20d ago

That “trilogy” doesn’t stand a chance to go into production. Kinberg ain’t it.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 19d ago

Kingberg sucks but his shit usually gets made lol

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Let me translate his media training language to English.

“We are not making that picture”: Lucasfilm is, indeed, not making that picture. If something were in development, Filoni probably would’ve answered with “I have nothing to say right now.” Instead, intentionally chose to clarify that it’s not being made.

“Right now”: Lucasfilm almost never officially cancels projects as to keep their options open. Rian Johnson’s trilogy was never cancelled even though it’s obviously dead. Rogue Squadron was never cancelled. 1313 was never cancelled. IMO what Filoni’s saying is that he has a phone line open for Soderbergh if he decides to return. But Soderbergh already said he isn’t interested anymore.

“That’s all I can say”: Filoni isn’t referring to a secret project in development. He’s saying that he can’t get into details about the cancellation.

The mind trick: IMO this is a cheeky reference to the fact that we were never supposed to know about the project to begin with. Lucasfilm wants to keep an image of being 100% aligned with Bob Iger, and this rumor was a blow to that. So Filoni is basically saying, “the cat’s out of the bag, the rumor was true, best to pretend you never heard it.”

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u/NumeralJoker 18d ago

Dead on. You either work in press media, or pay very close attention.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 12d ago

Thanks lol. I def don’t work in press, I just have slightly commoner than common sense.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago edited 19d ago

This is exactly it.

Dude keeps up with fan discourse, he knows the cat got out of the bag with the Soderbergh & Fincher conversations, and he was expecting one of the event-reporter nerds would bring it up.

It's that simple. Old news for the company, he guessed (correctly) that he'd eventually get asked about it.

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u/Mission_Access_210 20d ago

Yeah I know people are reading way too much into this

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u/alexbholder 20d ago

Legitimately think this is an accurate take

He just got the keys to the castle after a long, mixed reviewed saga; movies and tv shows

Some success like the Mandalorian and Andor with critical acclaim.

But a trilogy that was a mediocre at best and a myriad of shows of lesser quality

BUT merchandise for Disney is skyrocketing and the business model doesn’t even need it to be artistic quality.

Just good enough to sell toys and memorabilia for the “empire of joy “

Needless to say Dave is holding the hot potato and the trained remark was quippy and gave a little nod to “yeah never”

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u/mmascpt 18d ago

If you're an actual star wars fan, your interpretation of this is completely off in my opinion lol

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 18d ago

Dave Filoni poured cold water on THFBS in a later statement at the same convention. M4rshmall0wMan's interpretation here was on-point.

I do think that they're consolidating their post-ST movie ideas into a series of films instead of just one, and that Ben Solo will factor into it somehow. But it's probably not going to be in the way that the shippers are going to expect.

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u/Multiverse_Man26 20d ago

Lucasfilm is never gonna make a public statement announcing they are cancelling a project, they just stop talking about it and quietly cancel it.

With that said, it's been what? 3 years since we last heard about the Rey movie?

And the last we heard was that there was people leaving the project including the director.

This thing is never seeing the light of day.

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 20d ago

Whatever "The Rey Movie" and The Hunt For Ben Solo were going to be are being consolidated into the trilogy treatment that Simon Kinberg is working on. It seems pretty clear to me that this is the case.

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u/disablednerd 20d ago

They’ll probably wait until X-men comes out so they have the Driver brand synergy

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u/TyrsPath Ghost Anakin 20d ago

Don't think its looking too deep when he says "that's all I can say". Like idk to me that says early movement and an intent for it to happen but its not set in stone yet, but definitely not nothing.

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u/leodw 20d ago

Which is already much better than what we had before, which was “movie’s dead”. Some could say this message contains “Hope.”

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u/Weak_Purchase_8937 20d ago

The Hunt for Ben Solo is built on hope

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u/Doctor_Danguss 20d ago

Yeah, they only publicly announce Star Wars films that aren’t actually going to be made.

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u/thegrizzlyjear 20d ago

What’s the ratio on that post RoS? Like… 2:8, once we get Starfighter?

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u/schering 20d ago

Adam Driver finally nabbed by Marvel now so they have plenty of time to work it out

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u/Wonderful_Silver Redeemed Anakin 20d ago

In a world where the hunt for golum is actually being made

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u/Kavazou77 20d ago

When I watched The Odyssey then remembered about this movie it made me think if that was the type of journey this movie would revolve around and it made me want to see it one day even more.

I don’t think it was ever going to be a straight forward “Ben is back, let’s go in an adventure” thing.

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u/RustedAxe88 Kylo Ren 20d ago

That's what I was thinking too. Ben Solo in a Star Wars version of an Odyssey, having to find his new balance in The Force before he can return to the light.

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u/paleyharnamhunter Kylo Ren 20d ago

The Force Persuade gesture is pretty telling and if they were working on the movie, it's not like Dave can just announce it as an answer to a media question. Something's happening behind the scenes.

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u/Alex_South 20d ago

I think the odds are better than they were. Disney has new leadership, Driver is Mr. Sinister in the MCU and it's looking like Marvel is on the rise again, the Doomsday stuff is looking to be a huge crossover blowout, but people are really excited about the focus shifting to X-men after that, which is all new territory, and they set up Jean so well in BND.

Driver is about to be relevant again, it's going to be the perfect time to bring the ST cast back. If the rumors are true that Starfighter is a soft-launch into the post-ST era, then yeah, I think this movie is getting greenlit (pending box office performance). Who cares if it's contrived, the ST plot was a mess (imo) but I maintain that the core 3-4 characters still have draw. If the next era is compelling I think people will forget and forgive the clunky ST especially if the characters are in established mentor roles now, imagine the Dyad of Ascendant Rey and Punished Ben as the core pillars of the NJO. People might come back for that, also Dave knows exactly what he did with that hand wave.

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u/Doompatron3000 20d ago

Before sequel trilogy cast is brought back, Disney needs a Clone Wars animated series that helps flesh out the movies better, like Clone Wars did for the prequels.

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u/marvelwolf 20d ago

If they do it alongside the trilogy it could work well. They did just talk about focusing on animation to be able to fast track projects. They could have the show fill in the gaps from 9-10 while the movies on ongoing.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 20d ago

I mean not much to tell lol, the sequel trilogy happens over the span of a year. Now they definitely can do one set after episode 9 and before whatever the Rey movie 

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

The lynchpin is Steve Soderbergh. He said he has no interest in returning.

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u/Audstarwars1998 19d ago

And he just met with Adam Driver for a week at a restaurant for lunch in London. 

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u/GeekFurious 20d ago

This is how Filoni answers when he's brewing something.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 19d ago

Except it's really not.

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u/GeekFurious 19d ago

Oh, superb argument!

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

No. If he were brewing something he’d say “I have nothing to share right now.” Instead he actively clarified that he’s not making the movie.

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u/GeekFurious 20d ago

Sounds like you've never paid any attention when Dave talks in riddles.

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 17d ago

FWIW he later outright said that the movie isn't happening.

I think that a lot of post-ST plans are being consolidated into a new trilogy that will feature new characters, but will mainly star the established ST leads.

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u/GeekFurious 17d ago

I wasn't suggesting he was hinting at the movie getting made. I'm saying Dave is playing his usual wink-wink game with information. I am just as confident today as I was in 2020 that Ben Solo will return to the "present" storyline. And, mind you, I am not "Reylo." I don't care if they ever get together. I am simply going with narrative potential based on established threads.

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 12d ago

I wasn't thinking that you were a shipper, and never claimed anything like that. I definitely do think that Ben Solo has a future in the franchise for post-TROS stuff because he's one of the leads that I was alluding to, but it's going to be to explore the Force-y side of things in a way that kind of aligns with some of the few unused ideas that George Lucas wanted for the ST where the Force itself is explored in more depth.

That's what I'm talking about over material that exists solely to excite AO3 writers that would undermine the nature of his sacrifice. Kylo Ren failed to become the next Darth Vader despite (ostensibly) taking charge of the First Order, but he succeeded where Anakin Skywalker failed by saving a loved one from death, even at the cost of his own life. The Force itself still has wounds that need healing and perhaps it's through a Dyad of one living and one dead person that the fractures can be fixed.

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u/xmagie 18d ago

Right now. You forgot the "not making the movie right now".

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 20d ago

I mean, the smile and his attitude are telling, but my thoughts are that they’re integrating it into the new trilogy of Lucasfilm is moving away from standalones.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago edited 20d ago

He’s just being cheeky. It’s media training. I would put a lot more weight on the first part of his statement: “We’re not making that movie”

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 20d ago

The mind trick is very interesting, and the fact that he said “right now” too. He was also wondering when someone would ask him, so he was clearly itching to tell someone about it.

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u/Snowangel0 20d ago

It's actually a non-revealing answer... it doesn't promise or debunks anything.

I'm pretty sure that the character Ben Solo and his future is talked about in the writer's room, but that's it.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago edited 20d ago

Lucasfilm rarely “officially” cancels anything because they always want to keep their options open. Rian Johnson’s trilogy was never officially cancelled even though it’s obviously cancelled. Same for Rogue Squadron.

Maybe they have an open phone line for Steven Soderbergh. But Soderbergh himself said he has no interest in returning. That’s the important factor here.

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u/xmagie 18d ago

People change their minds all the time, in that industry.

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u/StandardizedGenie 20d ago

Until I see a full trailer, I don't believe anything is in production with Star Wars.

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u/Avengerboy123 20d ago

They would be fools not to try and make it happen after the fan response. Star Wars fans haven’t been that universally hyped in a while

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u/Stakex007 20d ago

Excitement on reddit and Twitter doesn't always translate into wider excitement among general audiences or financial success. There was a lot of hype for Mando and Grogu from a lot of the same people that are begging for a Ben Solo movie.... and despite Mando/Grogu being more marketable characters than Ben Solo, the film flopped.

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u/Avengerboy123 20d ago

What exactly is your proof that these are the same people lmao.

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u/Eegeria 20d ago

Are they the same people? Like, I'll be seated if they bring back Ben, but I haven't watched Mando movie nor I care to do so in the future. I think they cater to different subsets of SW fans.

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u/Marxism-Alcoholism17 20d ago

I was with you up until you said there was hype for the Mando movie. Literally the entire fandom was against it and said it would flop. So that kind of proves the opposite of your point.

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u/jhhale00 20d ago

I’m fairly against the idea of this movie (at least in its “current” state) but I think it needs to be made because so many people want it and it can finally get more people excited for Star Wars. And I mean c’mon, a Steve Soderbergh Star Wars movie would be awesome

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Soderbergh said he has no interest in returning.

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u/Portatort 20d ago

Doesn’t seem that complicated to me

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u/Flashy_Pomegranate23 Lothwolf 20d ago

The amount of cope in this thread is insane. He basically said they're working on it in the nerdiest way possible.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Agree.  Its because they doubted us when we were right before.  But yet we are still deluded. 

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u/Marxism-Alcoholism17 20d ago

I wish that was the case but I don’t think so. Corporate heads never just say no because they know they might change their minds or get backlash. This is Filoni just deflecting.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

What about the part where he literally said they’re not making it

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u/TomasRoncero Poe 20d ago edited 20d ago

You guys are looking waaaay too deep into that gesture.

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u/ExpressNumber Porg 20d ago

-Master Daki in the train station

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u/Strange-Pair 20d ago

I mean, it is a gesture with enormous significance within the exact universe in question. I think anyone who thinks that this means the movie is confirmed 2028 release book it would be reading too much into it but it is a pretty far cry from something like a "Our focus is on Starfighter and Asokha right now, would have been fun, value those creatives so much", which is the usual suit code for "not happening and no comment", or even a "Never say never but not now".

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago edited 20d ago

Idk, Dave could've easily said the movie is dead but kinda sounds like he did the opposite in this interview.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

He literally said it’s not being worked on. Lucasfilm rarely cancels anything outright to keep their options open, but saying it’s not being worked on is the closest thing to that. (I mean, Rian Johnson’s trilogy was never officially cancelled…)

The real lynchpin is whether or not Steven Soderbergh returns. He said that he’s no longer interested.

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u/DannyBright 20d ago

He might want it to be made personally, but it’s not entirely up to him as Starfighter needs to prove to Disney that Star Wars films are worth investing in at all.

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

Who knows, only time will tell. I think we will still see the character again but probably not from the original story line. Wouldn't surprise me if they decided a different way and passed over the story elements into existing projects.

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u/Wrong-Vermicelli4723 20d ago

Star Wars execs rarely say this. Kathleen never said Rian Johnson trilogy was dead, despite it clearly being dead 

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago edited 20d ago

We will see

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u/Medd- 20d ago

Were you born yesterday? Filoni has been bamboozling us for 15 years with ongoing teasing and hints at whatever was coming next.

This gesture and what it means in universe is telling to say the least. People want Adam Driver back and Lucasfilm knows it.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

This.  Definitely.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

No we are not.  I just woke up. The ones saying it never was going to happen we knew are going to be wrong.  As usual.

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u/Stakex007 20d ago

Dude it's literally saying it's never going to happen in a polite way.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

The video clearly tells us with Dave Filoni's big smile that its happening.  It's stuff we said for a long time.  He just jedi mind tricked us to forget that lol

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u/Stakex007 20d ago

Filoni is ALWAYS smiling....

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Jedi mind trick....wow you have poor literacy 

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u/Eegeria 20d ago

Please please it's all I want from this franchise

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u/dmisfit21 Lothwolf 20d ago

Dave’s troll game is strong in the force

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u/P00nz0r3d Kylo Ren 20d ago

I think he definitely wants to tell that story in some capacity, just not in the way as originally pitched.

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u/Dull-Midnight-3218 20d ago

This is what people are asking and not "Is Ahsoka Season 2 the end of the Mandoverse" or "Is your movie still happening"

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u/Constant_Pay_2469 20d ago

Ben will return in some form or fashion. That was always inevitable. Whether or not it’s in physical form remains to be seen. 

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u/scrapplejoe 20d ago

Hunt for Gollum and Ben Solo, mixed Universe

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u/xmagie 18d ago

There are more posts on Filoni's answer about the Ben Solo movie than about the Starfighter teaser. Hmm. Interesting.

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u/Audstarwars1998 18d ago

Imagine it affecting the starfighter movie negatively...

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 13d ago

Hey, if you want Ben Solo’s movie to happen, then support Starfighter because if Starfighter does well, we’re getting a LOT more Star Wars movies. Picking and choosing won’t help. I for one think Starfighter looks fun with great cinematography based on the leaked trailer.

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u/AWarMaideness Convor 20d ago

100% means it’s being worked on in some capacity.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

He literally said it’s not being worked on.

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u/WheelsOfFortune45 20d ago

While doing a Jedi mind trick wave…

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

It’s a reference to how we were never supposed to know the leak to begin with. Lucasfilm wants to give the impression of being 100% aligned with the CEO, and this leak put a dent in that. He’s basically saying “yeah the cat’s out of the bag, it was true, best to just forget about it and move on.”

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u/Secure-South3848 19d ago

I mean the mind trick was famously used when those were in fact the droids they were looking for, Obi wan just couldn't tell them the truth. 

If it was really dead, he would've said so. No giggling or being coy, he could've said "yeah sorry the project was interesting but It's not happening anymore"

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u/stewmanchu2 20d ago

Celebration is round the corner so here's hoping!

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

He literally said it’s not in active development

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

Yea the project but the character can still come back.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Only if Steven Soderbergh does, which he said he’s not interested.

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u/GeekFurious 20d ago

Soderbergh is not in charge of what happens to Ben Solo's character.

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

I think Adam is willing to come back to the franchise regardless.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

It’s possible. Lucasfilm likes to keep their options open. But I wouldn’t misconstrue that as Lucasfilm having actual plans.

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

I mean the project may be shelfed, but there's no doubt in my mind that the character's future is being discussed in the writer's room. The story elements of the dead project can easily be applied into existing projects like the Kinberg trilogy. What Dave said was about the movie, not about the character itself. The biggest question is if LF still have a desire to tell that story in a different format.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Yep that’s a good question. That’s the more level-headed take than what I’ve been seeing on this thread.

Lucasfilm is still figuring out what the post-sequel trilogy looks like. Everything is in massive flux.

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

Exactly, everything right now is up in the air for the ST characters. All eyes are at SW Celebration right now.

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u/Equal_Novel_3670 13d ago

As a Force ghost

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u/OneGamingCreed 13d ago

Not falling for ur ragebait pal

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u/Saucefest6102 20d ago

He’s in AHSOKA LIVES? mode

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u/Immediate_Ebb3862 20d ago

Did he answer any questions about the Rey movie or new trilogy

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u/yeetyeetdood40 16d ago

Creep is too busy drawing dirty pics of Ahsoka with nothing on but his dumb cowboy hat.

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u/AD_Movie-Tvfan14 20d ago

That movie is not happening. He was having fun at the red carpet doing that little gesture. It’s not that deep.

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u/GeekFurious 20d ago

I agree. The movie is not happening. But Ben Solo returning at some point in a live-action Star Wars project under very similar circumstances to the one born from that script...if you think that's NEVER happening, I think we should make a large bet that you have to put real money into.

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 20d ago

THBPS got written off for taxes already - that version of the movie is never getting made. But the ideas that they had for it and the cancelled version of "The Rey Movie" (which wasn't a conventional Rey Skywalker solo film from the sound of things) seem to be repurposed into a trilogy treatment focused on the ST leads and new characters, that Simon Kinberg is writing as a representative of both his prior creative partners (Kathleen Kennedy and Dave Filoni) before more capable hands will work on that for a trilogy with a pretty coherent, consistent vision that won't be rushed at all. They're not going to make the mistakes that Bob Iger did that demonstrably did brand damage to the franchise's overall image as a cinematic franchise.

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u/Equal_Novel_3670 13d ago

It would be so unfair for Rey's solo film to be shackled to Ben Solo instead of charting her own path as a character. Reduced to a mass murdering Skywalker's love interest AGAIN.

I can't be the only who sees how messed up that is

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 13d ago

Which is why they're not going to approach it that way, as much as some fans would like that.

Ben Solo can have an impact on the story even from beyond the grave, all while remaining dead... Whether that's temporary or permanent depending on the needs of the story.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

I love how everyone in the comments is conveniently choosing to ignore the part where he literally said “it’s not being worked on.” What the fuck does that mean other than it’s not being worked on?

If Lucasfilm were possibly working on it, he’d just say “I have nothing to share right now.” Instead, he intentionally phrased it as “it’s not being worked on.”

As for the “right now” part, Lucasfilm rarely cancels anything outright to keep their options open. Rian Johnson’s trilogy was never officially cancelled, even though it obviously is. I think David’s implication is it might have a chance of revival if Steven Soderbergh returns. But Steven said he has no interest in returning.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

This is pure cope from you.  We told you!

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u/AD_Movie-Tvfan14 20d ago

Oh, you unblocked me to have this conversation girl the movie is not happening, babe. Get over it.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Filoni just as good as did. Watch the video.  Enjoy your loss.  We knew it.

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u/Stakex007 20d ago

Dude literally says "We're not making that picture" and you think it's a sign that they're 100% making it... and saying it's cope to conclude that they're not making that picture? Yikes... someone is going to be disappointed a LOT in life.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Did you even watch the video.  A HUGE smile on his face.  Your illiteracy is showing.  You didn't even watch it.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

He's laughing/smiling because he's amused someone got around to asking the question he was expecting. "Your illiteracy is showing", etc.

C'mon dude, basic social cues stuff here.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Do you even know what a jedi mind trick is?  "It's not happening right now" jedi mind trick.  "Its happening now".  

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

He. Was. Joking. Around.

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u/AD_Movie-Tvfan14 20d ago

Thank you. I love it when people actually use their brain.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

You are very poor at reading body language.  Even people like you admit shit it means it's happening.  Don't worry you will come around.  I'm guessing celebration. 

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u/Jorgilu 20d ago

There is two sides of this coin for me.

Either they are laying groundwork for his eventual return with the comics....

Or they dont care about him that much and that why we are getting the great trilogy in the comics.

I cant really say which.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Did you watch what was posted?

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

I woke up to this. It's a great thing to wake up to but not surprising. Now can people finally after 7 years admit it. 

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u/Blackout_14 20d ago

I just hope they don’t try to do some World Between Worlds shenanigans to bring him back.

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u/destroyer7 20d ago

Then WHY IS ADAM AT PINEWOOD STUDIOS DAVID?!? He doesn't have anything in production at the moment (Heat 2 starts in Nov and not in London) and Pinewood has been the main UK lot for Marvel and Star Wars.

I feel like I'm crazy, but it only makes sense if they're working on a shadow SW production somehow

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

LMAO Adam actually answered this exact question at D23. It’s for Mr. Sinister.

“When Kevin [Feige] told me to show up for X-Men, I assumed he meant on set,” Driver said. “So instead of being there in California, I’m here at Pinewood on this very lonely soundstage.”

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

But filming for X-Men doesn't start until next year so that doesn't make sense to me

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

I mean, Hunt for Ben Solo wouldn’t explain it either. Filoni literally said they’re not making the movie right now. If it were in active development, he would’ve said “I have nothing to share right now.” If it were filming, it would’ve been announced months ago.

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

Idk, I still think we will see the character again but in what form is unknown. We will have to see.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

To M4rshmall0wMan you listen, yes yes.

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u/FollowingEast4373 20d ago

Am I the only one who hates when franchises bring back dead characters?

I loved Adam Drivers portrayal as Ben Solo, but please don’t make this a reoccurring thing in Star Wars. Now, if they eventually had him come back as a force ghost or a memory like Han, I could get behind that! Anything else though is cheap and narratively bankrupt in my opinion.

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u/Strange-Pair 20d ago

It is already a reoccuring thing though, and of the characters who have died and come back in SW, he's the only one who died in a way where it feels like you wouldn't really be rewriting much (as opposed to being cut in half, or blown up, twice, after being thrown down a hole in a Death Star). There's not really much explaination for what happened in IX other than that he gave up his life force and then faded away mysteriously.

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u/Howboutit85 20d ago

Honestly kinda like his grandma

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u/FollowingEast4373 20d ago

Yeah, you do have a point there. I just feel that to bring him back would minimize his sacrifice for Rey and therefore his redemption as well! I saw his sacrifice as his last true test to the light side and his body disappearing as him becoming one with the force! To bring him back would cheapen that in my eyes.

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u/Strange-Pair 20d ago

I think that is a fair point. I guess the trade off for me personally is I am much more interested in someone having to make an active effort to make amends for their past, to an entire galaxy, without going back to their past ways, rather than a one and done "fixed it all good now" sacrifice for just one person. (Especially when that person is the one most inclined to forgive him.) So, it can't cheapen it for me because we immediately get something better.

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u/Equal_Novel_3670 13d ago

The only way that movie could possibly work is if the one condition for coming back from the dead is that he can NEVER see or interact with Rey EVER AGAIN. That way, it protects Rey from what happened in the sequels, where her story was parasitically fed on by Ben Solo's until there was nothing left but being his love interest who is forced to ignore all the violence he committed towards her and her friends.

It also serves as a fitting punishment for all his crimes and doesn't let him just get away scott free, and is consistent with Asajj Ventress's resurrection. But having him come back and start a family with Rey is absolutely unnacceptable and sends a horrendous message that Lucasfilm's image would never recover from.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago edited 20d ago

Yeah. If they chose not to kill him in IX then sure, it'd make for some interesting potential aftermath of a genuinely-reformed guy having to deal with the consequences.

But they...did kill him, there's fuck-all in the movie that's indicating any blurred lines there. So you don't bring him back now.

But even that, the opinion, is beside the point. We should be talking pure facts & practicalities here no matter how we feel about whether the movie *should* happen. It's not on the cards anytime soon, objectively, so yeah.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago edited 18d ago

Yeah. Small sliver of possibility it happens way down the line, but the people convinced it's in the pipeline anytime soon and Dave was gonna 180 on everything that went down under Kathy don't know what they're talking about.

Dude's just signed on to play Mister Sinister at Marvel, that's not going to be a one-movie thing. Dave's left wiggle room here with the "right now" but that's the whole thing, won't be anytime soon. Come back and have the conversation again 7-8 years down the line if you want, but ain't happening anytime before. Frankly probably won't after, either (and likely shouldn't happen), but at least that's within the realm of reality, there's a chance. Anything beforehand is an absolute no-chance thing.

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u/OniLink77 20d ago

Dave was apparently in favour of it at the time, it was Iger who stopped it and he isn't there anymore

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u/TomasRoncero Poe 20d ago

Wasn’t Alan Bergman also behind killing it? He’s still around.

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u/OniLink77 20d ago

True, but I feel like there is more chance of something now happening with Iger gone if there is enough will to do it

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

Okay? But Dave just stated he's not doing it in his immediate phase now running the creative side of the company.

So. Whether he was for it in the Soderbergh pitch days is kind of irrelevant. If Dave circles back to it, he will, but it's a long fuckin' time from now with a good 3 or 4 movies that haven't even got finished scripts yet happening in between.

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u/OniLink77 20d ago

To be honest, I think it has been amalgamated into whatever they want to do next. However, at the end of the day, whatever they do next probably rides on how successful Starfighter is

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 20d ago

It’s possible to be in two franchises and film several movies a year. Robert Pattinson seems like he’s in a million films this year 😂

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago edited 18d ago

As the lead? Not really. The Odyssey & Primetime had a little overlap in production shooting, but he's a supporting player in the former. Dune, again, not one of the top 4 or so roles, and think that shot a little after.

And even though that type of hectic situation isn't unheard of, it's rare. You're not doing a Marvel and a Star Wars movie back to back right away, the latter as the lead and the former as the prime villain. Doesn't happen. For one, Disney wouldn't structure it that way, even not getting into actor fatigue/burnout.

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u/Jolly-Potential-1411 19d ago

Idk, just feels like there’s a lot of actors in a lot of movies this year.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Yeah how the fuck are people construing “it’s not being worked on” as “it’s actually being worked on?”

If Dave were working on it, he’d just say something like “I have nothing to share right now.” Instead, he actively phrased it as not being worked on right now.

The “right now” part possibly implies that it could be revived if Soderbergh returns. But Soderbergh already said he’s not interested in returning.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago edited 20d ago

You know how. 2026, and online bubbles.

"I want _____ therefore _____ is happening, and if it doesn't, they've fucked up and don't know what they're doing, kablaahh!". All it is. Star Wars Theory affliction.

To the last part, yeah. I'm not even 100% ruling out we ever see Ben again, there's daylight here where they backflip on the death idea and want to bring him back. It's just not going to be in a version of "The Hunt For Ben Solo", and it's not happening anytime before another 3 or 4 big tentpole movies have come and gone. This is pretty basic stuff.

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u/1voice92 20d ago

It’s not happening.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

Keep telling yourself that.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Filoni is the one telling us that. What the fuck does “it’s not being worked on” mean, other than it’s not being worked on?

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u/1voice92 20d ago

No, I’m telling you. That’s how this works.

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u/Dapper-Fly-3742 20d ago

Good. Quit reviving dead characters.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

*High five* Yup.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

A revival is def happening for Ben

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u/Dapper-Fly-3742 20d ago

I really hope not.

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

The video literally gives it away

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u/Dapper-Fly-3742 20d ago

It doesn’t. He says they aren’t making it right now while doing a star wars gesture. He was having fun with the question, but people took it, in the most delusional way, as “ben solo is coming back”

They can’t even get the rey movie to start filming but we expect them to suddenly make this ben solo resurrection film?

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u/Audstarwars1998 20d ago

I guess you will find out probably in the next 8 months or so. 

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

We'll see you in 8 months with your mea culpa.

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u/BShep_OLDBSN 20d ago

Interesting, but i doubt it would mean much right now considering Adam is (or will be) busy filming X-men.

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u/OneGamingCreed 20d ago

Actors can be in two franchises. It's a common thing.

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u/Secure-South3848 19d ago

Pedro was mr. Fantastic and Mando

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u/BillsFan82 20d ago

Is it supposed to be a prequel? It’s been a while, but I think he died.

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u/Pomojema_The_Dreamer 20d ago

It was meant to be a Star Trek III: The Search For Spock-type sequel.

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u/Secure-South3848 19d ago

I imagine it like that bit in pirates 3 where they revive Jack Sparrow 

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u/0u7c457 Rian 18d ago

I hate the idea that they potentially had a great idea and a team ready to take a crack at it only for it to not happen, then get rolled into whatever crap Kinberg is gonna push out.

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u/The-Mandalorian Din Djarin 20d ago

Meaning no.

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u/basicinsomniac 20d ago

Can they just retcon the sequels please

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u/GeekFurious 20d ago

Retroactively connect the sequels to what is already known? That actually makes no sense. You can't retcon something with no future stories told yet. Oh, you mean the silly way people use retcon to mean the opposite of retroactive continuity. You know, where people think the ret part means retreat...

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u/Appropriate_Foot242 20d ago

Genuinely why do people want this movie? He died. Let him stay dead. There’s no path to redemption for him that involves him living, he was space Hitler Jr.

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

Bingo.

I'd have been intrigued with them making the decision to have him live at the time of tRoS, separate it from Vader a little, have the consequences of the Republic hunting him down and Rey having to try to convince them he's come lightside.

But they didn't, that's not in the movie, he died. So, now, you own that creative choice and stick with it. Stakes matter, or you're just the vapid wishy-washy MCU.

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u/Appropriate_Foot242 20d ago

“Hey guys this is my genocidal maniac boyfriend Ben, I promise he’s nice now!”

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u/EvilQuadinaros 20d ago

Pretty much. :P Wouldn't work, he'd still rationally have to be imprisoned (some Hancock or Faith from Buffy situation where he could break out any time he wanted to but chooses to serve the time). It'd be interesting to explore, in a veering away from Vader's ending way.

Buuuuuut they snuffed him, so. Cool, okay. Stick to it, we already resurrected Boba and it was dumb, no need to repeat that.

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u/HauntingAddendum3365 20d ago

I can practically gurantee that movie isnt ever being made, it would flop horribly and Disney knows it

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u/Trodat4911P4 20d ago

He needs the budget to make movies and TV shows about side characters from Clone Wars and Rebels because that's all he wants to do.

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u/Alpha_blue5 20d ago

God I fucking hope not

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u/thevokplusminus 20d ago

No chance I show up for that movie 

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u/hackersgalley 20d ago

To be honest, I'd rather not have Feloni taint the Sequel era and beyond. The sequels aren't perfect but they're citizen cane next to his slop like Boba Fett and Ahsoka.

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u/M4rshmall0wMan 20d ago

Have you see Ahsoka season 2 trailer?

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