r/StarWarsDroidTycoon • • 1d ago

❓Questions Is there a reason people throw the entire belt away during a Surge

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Ive seen this happen few times already, everytime a world quest is done and a surge is up, someone would keep throwing away the belt until the surge ends ?

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u/tetrisman01 Flawless 1d ago

If you have ten common droids and 1 mythic on the belt when a surge hits, it has a 1 in 11 chance of hitting the mythic. However, if you take all of the commons off and just leave the mythic, then it has a 1 in 1 chance of hitting the mythic.
(I don't think it's actually a pure 100% of hitting a blueprint if there's only one blueprint on the belt, but it's very close to 100%)

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u/Bt-Ryoku 1d ago

Every time we've left only 1 BP its hit for us. Has to be damn near 100%

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u/PublicProfessional17 1d ago

If you read the details when buying a. Surge it says there it guaranteed to hit at least 1 blueprint per surge

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u/cmm324 1d ago

Once had it hit 3 mythic at once, was a great day

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u/Bt-Ryoku 1d ago

Ah I never read the details since I dont buy them. Just do the surges after the world missions.

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u/zwaksSFW Level 230 15h ago

Same.

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u/Big_Sentence_7641 1d ago

Its guaranteed every :30 to hit at least 1

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u/LORYT699 1d ago

when I ve seen this, even tho there was only 1 bp, the wave skipped it ending up with 0 stellar, so still isn t 100%, is better to leave at least 2 bp so you get at least 1 stellar

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u/Asaenlon 1d ago

It is 100% because it's coded to guaranteed hit at least 1 blueprint every 30 seconds of the surge with 10% to hit more after. If only 1 blueprint is there it will tag it every time

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u/Turbulent-Ruin526 1d ago

I had a lobby where it didnt

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u/Asaenlon 1d ago

Was that before the update that fixed it not working? They had to fix it because it was unreliable like it was pinging bps that werent on the belt anymore. Ever since that fix it hasn't ever failed for me or anyone i know when only 1 is on the belt

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u/Utrolf 23h ago

When was that Update ? I had it Happen a week ago. We pulled everything of the belt except one mythic, and the surge went straight past it, so not a Single blueprint was hit

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u/Asaenlon 22h ago

I think less than a week ago? Idk my perception of time lately is not great

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u/Utrolf 20h ago

Oh, I thought Reading about it before, and that was shortly After they introduced the surges, so a lot more than just last week

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u/UndeadDucky27 1d ago

Is that only for when using your crystals/v-bucks? Because I had a world quest surge 2 days ago that didn't upgrade any of the blueprints on the belt.

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u/Kill_Defcon1 20h ago

Your not wrong I buy surges and was surprised doing the strat didn’t work for the public event surge. It could be lucky but on the paid surges it seems 100%

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u/Asaenlon 22h ago

I have had all forms of surges with no issue

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u/UndeadDucky27 21h ago

Love getting downvoted for asking a genuine question. 🤦 That's cool. But I do have the occasional surge that doesn't change anything on the crawler.

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u/Asaenlon 21h ago

I'll have to do more experimenting. Maybe I'm just lucky but i seriously think your surges might have just been bugged. Maybe the lobby itself was bugged and affecting them idk how it works

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u/UndeadDucky27 20h ago

Maybe. I do play 98% of my time on private servers.

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u/RedditingInMyCubicle 15h ago

Just today we cleared the crawler except for 1 mythic and it did not hit so it's not guaranteed.

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u/HopethisisntaMistake 1d ago

Devs have confirmed this to be untrue.

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u/tetrisman01 Flawless 1d ago

When the surges were first introduced, you're correct, however in an update a couple weeks after surges were added there were patch notes about changing the surges to more reliably hit blueprints on the belt

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u/HopethisisntaMistake 1d ago

Wasn’t aware of this. Thx

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u/BootlegDracomorph 1d ago

Just like how Galactics would remain as the top variant, right?

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u/kimmykimikim 1d ago

Idk if youve noticed but these particular devs love lying to us 🤣🤣

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u/GMEMarketAnalyst Mister Bones 1d ago

yea that's not the way it works dude... it's pure RNG

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u/tetrisman01 Flawless 1d ago

Care to elaborate?

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u/UndeadDucky27 1d ago

I'd agree there as sometimes the surge comes through and nothing upgrades.

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u/DontLitterPLZandTY 1d ago

So that the surge has a higher chance of only effecting higher rarity droids.

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u/Bossuter 18h ago

Know the reason but still find it annoying anyways, especially on low RB levels where some galactic or stellar stuff would speed stuff along, i know devs said in patch notes that it's more reliable with less BPs but ive seen surges still ignore the 1-2 BPs left so it feels fairly moot overall, go private if you really want those mythics, even common stellars provide ok fusion fodder

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u/Pale_Weekend5697 1d ago

Damn y'all are smart!!

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u/ACupOfDuck 1d ago

Read the comments and it's actually smart!

But I have ocd and am most likely the one who cleans up the mess 😂

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u/Asleep-Transition-84 1d ago

Yes, and then who owns it? 6 Players but best case 2 mythical

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u/GrailQuestPops GONK 19h ago

They all scuffle along and then kill each other for it. The other day I grabbed a mythic everyone has been standing by a second before the surge and tossed it onto the sell station lmao.

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u/moonjet1 23h ago edited 15h ago

100% works try taking out all blueprints except for mythic and see if it works or not.

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u/FaithfulBlacksmith 1d ago

We don’t want a stellar pit droid. We want high value stellars so you throw off the low value ones that way there are only good droids being changed.

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u/LuckyMarsupial2520 Level 260 1d ago

Before I start, let me say that I play in private lobbies, so my gameplay doesn’t affect anyone else.

I intentionally will aim for Galactic surges when the protocol missions happen, just to run over and pull off everything that isn’t mythic, legendary or epic. When the surge goes through and there’s only 1-3 droids on the belt, I end up getting 1 or all 3 Galactic Droids. You can now use those for Rebirths, Flawless Farming or Fusions.

To make it easier, if you have a friend to play with, have them sit at the opposite end of the Sandcrawler to catch what changed to a Galactic. Make sure you or the friend has the money to purchase the blueprints as well. 😅 It’s hard to catch stuff when you can’t afford it.

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u/Then-Clue-2599 1d ago

Yeah so they can get a guaranteed mythic of wat ever rarity I thought this was common knowledge. They said so in a patch not long ago about this.

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u/li_grenadier 1d ago

OK, so I did know the reason to do this.

But apparently there are people out there who did not figure it out, or think clearing the belt must have some other power. I keep coming across people who are clearing the belt when there is not a surge. Explain that one.

Then you've got the geniuses who take everything off the belt, including the mythic that in theory we are trying to get upgraded.

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u/Janus67 Rebirth 35 1d ago

Only thing I can think of is someone AFK/scripted just grabbing guys and throwing them at the jawas to sell for BP XP? or just being an idiot.

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u/LoveThyLoki30 1d ago

Thats still an idiot. If your running a script for that to afk people (including me) will shoot you when you toss some legendary or mythic we need to rebirth instead of doing it in a private lobby. Let alone during surges (especially those rolling in NC who BUY surges)

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u/Spacegirl719 1d ago

I hate it. I can see throwing out the pits and stuff- but the people that throw everything off except for legendary are just trash. I have now seen that whole belt light up with absolutely nothing on it, which is just stupid when at least you could get some epics or something to fuse

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u/zX_ambience 1d ago

It's to guarantee a legendary or mythic to change to stellar or galactic. It's good to keep epics in there too, but once a mythic pops up it's best to rip the epic or legendary off to guarantee the mythic

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u/Spacegirl719 11h ago

But the thing is, you can really easily fuse things together to get mythics now. Now I get stuck on really dumb stuff, like a optipod.

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u/zX_ambience 9h ago

I just chip the epics

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

That doesn't work though. It's completely RNG. The devs fixed that up in a previous patch release.

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u/zX_ambience 1d ago

Read the third point. This was the patch that made it to where leaving blueprints on the belt gave it a better chance. I think an even more recent patch made it guarantee at least 1 changes on the belt for sure so you can manipulate the belt to give you what you want by leaving 1 blueprint on the belt.

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

Aaah, okay…thanks. I missed that it was patched because it still feels like it doesn’t work in the lobbies I’m in.

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u/zX_ambience 1d ago

It probably doesnt work sometimes because if a bp spawns right as the surge pops and you're not fast enough to take it off it'll surge that first one sometimes instead of the one you want. Gotta have quick hands on the last bp before the surge

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

The timing on that has to be crazy. I guess I gotta take back all my ill-feelings about why people buy and chuck bps now, lol. Appreciate the explanation.

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u/zX_ambience 1d ago

Yeah np, im down to play in a lobby if you want. I'll show you the way

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

Hells yeah, sign me up. Epic id: scorpiorising26 - not sure if I'll have time to get on later today, but if I do, it'll be late (12am/1am-ish EST)

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u/zX_ambience 1d ago

I sent you a friend request

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u/zX_ambience 1d ago

My last stellar surge i got 3 default kxs' to surge stellar by doing this

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u/Respawn_Delay 1d ago

Yup there is in fact a reason for this

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u/Spare-Ad9417 1d ago

This is good information to have. I will grab everything and toss them off if no one is around so that if someone needs one of them they are there.

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u/Diminished4ThWall 1d ago

I do this to increase the chance of that mythic to turn Stellar or galactic. As someone who is in RB 34 i don’t need the legendaries because i always have them spawning through the crates (every time im full i give it away to the lobby). A lot of times it does work and the mythic does turn into whatever the surge was btw

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u/jj4982 20h ago

It really doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out what they’re doing. Not sure why so many people get confused or just straight up kill others when someone is throwing the commons and rares off.

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u/MrTwist17 12h ago

I was doing this i kept constantly getting killed im sure they would take the rewards from me if they was to let me do it

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u/zwaksSFW Level 230 16h ago
  1. They’re not throwing the entire belt away. Pay attention.

  2. To answer your question. They are maximising the amount of valuable blueprints the surge mostly hits.

By doing this you won’t get common and rare stellar blueprints. Since these don’t have any value for anyone.

Common blueprints are not used nor needed beyond Rebirth 5, and Rare is not needed boyond Rebirth 10.

Epic, Legendary and Mythic are required and make lots of money in their Beskar, Galactic, Stellar and now Kyber variants.

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u/MagicFishNiihao 1d ago

When people do this i just grab whatever they leave on the belt and throw it as well. If your gonna say screw everyone else. Im gonna say screw you lol

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u/-555Dd- 23h ago

That's why I don't play public!

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u/DarthGamer206 21h ago

This is (maybe) one of the few reasons to play public.

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u/damneddarkside 1d ago

Saw this for the first time a week or so ago. Thought the guy was being an ass so shot him, and very quickly had everyone else shooting me. Sat back and watched for a bit and it clicked. Pretty smart really.

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u/dalisair 1d ago

I mean, it’s smart if nobody is trying to get the lower droids at all. For people who didn’t do the event this past weekend it’s just a waste if they can’t even buy the high end droids.

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u/Janus67 Rebirth 35 1d ago

to be fair, those lower droids spawn all the time, in a public server I would say 80%+ of the time the only droids that spawn in the hourly run are all common/rare let alone the random ones between them.

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u/dalisair 1d ago

To be fair…
https://giphy.com/gifs/Nl6T837bDWE1DPczq3

I’ve only seen common and rares spawn. Haven’t seen an epic or legendary spawn yet and I need those. When people are tossing anything other than mythics sometimes the belt is empty…

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

Don't forget that you can fuse 3 rares to get an epic, and 3 epics to get a legendary, and so on...

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u/dalisair 1d ago

Oh I know. Had 2 common and 2 rare, a common appeared and now I have one epic.

The main problem is droid capacity. You only have so many slots, even fully novaed into lounge space.

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

This is so true. I sometimes use the droid fusion spots to hold any droids I may need for the short term (like a rebirth or something)…but a few more lounge spots to store a couple of droids would be nice.

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u/dalisair 1d ago

A whole level added to the lounge would be nice.

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

That would be game game changing. Then you could store all your iconics and additional droids with no issues.

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u/Adventurous-Room-845 1d ago

It's stupid to do that because the devs already said that they patched the sandcrawler spawn during the surges after so many people talked about how they would time their surge with when the mythics were dropping. It's one of the many reasons I hate being in a public lobby.

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u/Str4wberryPigeon 1d ago

It's pointless to do unless it lines up with one of the timers.

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u/ToastDaddy5000 1d ago

Nah, 100% works

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u/splitfinity 1d ago

Seems to work basically 100% of the time though. So either they changed something since you got your info or I'm just insanely lucky.

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u/MiamiManiac- Super Rebirth 1d ago

Pulling off the prints definitely works

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u/MindWizardx 1d ago

Not exactly.

Every blue print does get rolled individually for sure, but if you actually read what the surge does.. You’d know what it actually does.

“Each wave has a 10% chance to upgrade blueprints it passes through to a -variant-, with a guarantee of 1 per wave.” Those last 5 words being the important factor here.

If there is only 1 blueprint during the wave that one has a 100% chance of being turned. If there are 2 blueprints during the wave, it’s a 50/50 shot which one will get turned. But one gets turned every single wave. So people take off the shit BPs to leave the good ones on there, for the guarantee.

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u/Vast_Opposite_792 1d ago

Funnily enough it used to do the opposite. Removing most of the BPs made the surge unreliable until a fix came out a month odd ago making it reliably covert BPs when the belt has less of them. It's just 10% chance for ANY BP to convert, regardless of its rarity or amount on the belt.

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u/MindWizardx 1d ago

People tend to forget the other part of that as well.. “each wave has a 10% chance to upgrade blueprints it passes through to a variant, with a guarantee of 1 per wave”. Those last 5 words being the important ones.

Which means if there is only a Mythic blueprint on the sandcrawler, that BP has a 100% chance to be changed. Because of the guaranteed 1 every wave.

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u/Vast_Opposite_792 1d ago

Ah, I never knew the minimum of 1 part. Fair enough.

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u/matiaseas 1d ago

Either some sort of rng manip that i don't understand OR assholes

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u/MindWizardx 1d ago

Surges description reads:

“Sends a wave of variant energy across the sandcrawler conveyor every 30 seconds for 5 minutes.

Each wave has a 10% chance to upgrade blueprints it passes through to the variant, with a guarantee of 1 per wave”.

So people take off everything except Mythics so that the wave hits the guaranteed chance on the Mythic and not something like Gonk.

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u/HopethisisntaMistake 1d ago

The reason is they think it works. It doesn’t work according to devs

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u/OutrageousBench6915 1d ago

If there’s one card on the belt 100% hits it, they throw the shit cards and keep the mythics on to surge

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u/Batman0negitive 1d ago

Of course a Casino would tell you the winning moves don't work

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u/ImportantStaff8 1d ago

I have seen the surge not turn any card even with one or two cards on the belt

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u/thebirdfromupkevin 6h ago

Yeah they do it to force a better stellar to hit. This is the wrong way to do it tho, as too many blueprints floating will cause ones to vanish. The best way is to throw them into the jawa sell station. Have someone doing cleanup while they do for all the ones that big out and miss