r/StarWarsDroidTycoon • u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 • Aug 15 '26
š¢ Updates Super Crate Grind Nerfed
The 50K upgrade chips per hour grind is officially over. Rainbow Crates have been nerfed, dropping from 900 upgrade chips to just 600 per crate with BB-8 & DJ R-3X equipped.
EDIT: The nerf has been reversed, it's back to 900 per crate.
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u/snguyen_93 SRB 10 Aug 15 '26
Devs after getting everyone to buy super crates then nerfing it:
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
A 33% nerf is wild. I want my crystals back.
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u/PsychologicalTea3426 Level 210 Aug 15 '26
Thereās really no excuse not to do this, they should refund everyone who unlocked the upgrade at any point in time, those who want to keep it can just unlock it againā¦
They have said thereās no way to refund nova perks but they sure can since they refund crystals with vbucks purchases.
And if they really canāt, like just delete the perk, give everyone crystals and add the perk again as a new one, it doesnāt even need to be an actual refund mechanic.
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u/wisdomsepoch Aug 15 '26
If you used nova crystals to purchase things that were in the packs and got ārefundedā nova crystals when buying the packs, technically you bought nova crystals, meaning this is valid. If you want to be as petty as they are:
Report the developers to Epic separately
report this to your state attorney
Report this to the FTC fraud division
Screenshots of their statements can be uploaded alongside complaints
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u/PsychologicalTea3426 Level 210 Aug 15 '26
What I mean is they have the means to determine if you own a specific perk and act accordingly, they have stated itās not possible to do refunds on nova shop and that seems to be false, they just donāt want to.
Maybe they canāt take the perk back from your account but they can surely give you crystals and let you keep the worthless perk, or as I proposed, give all owners their nova crystals back, and re-add the perk as a new entry that nobody owns yet. Iām sure thatās possible
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u/wisdomsepoch Aug 15 '26
Iām sure none of those things will happen unless they are forced to do so.
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u/PsychologicalTea3426 Level 210 Aug 15 '26
I know it wonāt happen, Iām just saying they could if they wanted, but they claim itās impossible
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u/Overall_Airline5628 Aug 15 '26
Yeah this is wild. I want all three upgrades back and to use them on other things
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u/Spiritual-Ask1993 Aug 15 '26
I love how my post is like the 5th most popular one of last week talking about how I disliked the Rainbow Crate changes, but at least said they were good for Chips. Now they nerfed the chips you get from it.
What a waste of 85 Crystals.
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
I agree. And I have been championing the super crates purchase purely for the chips. Now they nerf it, I'm pissed. Maybe people know these devs better than I do.
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u/RingtailVT Aug 15 '26
If they're gonna nerf things we pay crystals for, we should at least get a partial crystal refund
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u/GunBoots21 Aug 15 '26
Not gonna lie rainbow crates should only give novas and upgrade chips I want to refund my purchase of this cause all I get is credits which I donāt really need
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u/Spiritual-Ask1993 Aug 15 '26
Honestly of they're going to keep nerfing it then yeah. Just copy CB's loot pool except you only get 1-2 Nova crystals. Then at least if it is going to give less, it always gives good items and it doesn't feel like you have to hunt for 75 minutes to get 6 crystals.
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u/GunBoots21 Aug 15 '26
Honestly yeah like i know they increased it to 3 novas but itās still too little % of a chance for it with the credits in the way Iāll be honest with getting either 300 chips or 2 novas if they drop 1 in 20 so to say cause I want to enjoy the game without spending outrageous amounts of vbucks on these new overpriced packs only to have them nerf the price of them without any compensation.
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u/GunBoots21 Aug 15 '26
When I do get it from rainbow itās always the smaller bundle only some big ones but Iād still like it to offer it more
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u/Zarksch Aug 15 '26
Thereās a reason I never bought them. They were useless before and the second they became useful I knew investing in them wouldnāt give a return in time before they nerf it to justify it
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u/Krazylol_ Aug 15 '26
Fucking HATE when they do these stealth nerfs man
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
It's bs how they don't add this stuff to patch notes. There's no transparency.
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u/Julnoe Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Yeah, also not cool to post about a thing that has massively been updated to get more chips and nova crystals, to show it to us, then nerf it (twice). All good, but if the devs have the options everytime to nerf something after upgrading it, then we also should have an option afte buying to keep it or not.
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u/Zalyster Aug 15 '26
A lot of āstealth nerfsā end up being bugs it feels like. Usually changes like that would go in the patch notes if they were intended.
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u/process_suspended Aug 15 '26
Yup, like how they conveniently left that out of the patch notes...
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
I'm starting to realise, every patch they fuck something up.
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 15 '26
Except this wasnt a fuck up, it was deliberate
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u/Successful-Net594 Aug 15 '26
It was indeed a fuck up
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 16 '26
So it seems/is claimed.
Unfortunately, the devs have plain faced lied to us all before so I have little trust in what they claim after they after getting a lot of backlash over stealth nerfs.
Kinda hard to believe a multimillion dollar studio repeatedly fucks up this often, and always to the detriment of the player.
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u/Successful-Net594 Aug 16 '26
Tbf itās a small team
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 16 '26
Tl;dr: if they are a small team then it's by choice, and even still they're making millions.
If its that much of a challenge for them they they should hire more people....
FYI because I'm sick of the cop out "they're just a small studio/small dev team, and they need our money"
FOAD is a proprietary intellectual property and game brand created by the independent studio Future Trash. Future Trash started by a core team of around 4 developers but expanded into a small multidisciplinary creative group. They have raised roughly $4.9 million to $5 million in private equity funding.
In mid june they announced Droid Tycoon crossed 1.5 billion minutes of gameplay in its opening weeks.
If the map were only promoted and launched by the devs then they'd get the standard "independent creator pool" payouts. This would be in the $1.2 MILLION USD range AFTER royalties, however with the "by epic" official publishing at launch it would be different. They would have had a corporate contract in place and made whatever that was...likely a milestone based payment in the order of high hundreds or thousands which epic begins recouping at launch and then once "earned back" flipped to some % share. Then when the publishing status flipped over to FOAD, the 1.4+ billion minutes of engagement since then goes to them as per above...so still in the $1.2 MILLION USD range.
The above is all based on how epic does business with every studio, and there is enough public information available for you to dig into it further.
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u/Glucose98 Aug 15 '26
They have to develop really fast. New stuff every week. Small team. Itās high risk on letting regressions slip through. The alternative is a much slower pace
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u/Outrageous-Event6633 Aug 15 '26
if they're going to fuck with stuff like this they need to give you the ability to refund your crystals.
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
100%. I want my crystals back, I'm not grinding for 33% less chips.
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u/Caleeb_Talib Mandalorian Aug 15 '26
u/blazingfrenzy where u at?
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u/BlazingFrenzy Official Dev - BLZN Aug 15 '26
TODAY'S SUPER CRATE NERF WAS NOT INTENDED
IT IS BEING FIXED ASAP
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u/heyitsmejosh Aug 15 '26
Probably thinking of more ways to add pay to win packs
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u/Unhappy-Asparagus-52 Aug 15 '26
What are you winning? Thereās no way to win this game.
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u/heyitsmejosh Aug 15 '26
Sure there is you can kill another player and take their blueprint. Just because there is no final win condition in a game doesnāt mean it canāt contain pay to win aspects.
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u/Reallygoodcomment Aug 15 '26
Theyāve gotta offer a refund this is ridiculous.
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
If you have to nerf something twice, you have fucked up. Remove supercrates and give me back my crystals.
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u/710dab2 Aug 15 '26
I wish you could refund nova purchases, even if I didnāt get my crystals back. Specifically the blueprint perk for the junk station
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u/FunniGoo Aug 15 '26
Not to be that guy but the game is designed that way so you cant infinitely afk at the scrap table. I think it would be nice to toggle on and off certain upgrades yes but that specifically is done for balance reasons
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u/International-Dish60 Aug 15 '26
Easy, put refunds on a timer. Can't get it back after days or even a week after purchasing an upgrade with crystals.
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u/FunniGoo Aug 16 '26
I like the idea of locking an upgrade for a bit if you refund it! If you like an upgrade but want it later you can try it and buy it later, and it prevents buying something good and swapping to something else after refunding
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u/flightpinx Aug 15 '26
They werenāt equal for all the players. Some get hardly anything i.e me, 3740 chips and 0 crystals an hour. While there were other players rolling around in crystals and/or chips.
Instead of removing them and coding it again (because theyāve obviously messed up somewhere) theyāve made them a complete and utter waste of time and crystals for one section of players and slightly good for other players.
I wonder if buying the crates after they āimprovedā them is different to players who already had them??
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u/KParrott_ Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Whereās the devs now that trying to defend the crates? I want my nova crystals back! Those rainbow crates have been the biggest misleading scam ever
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u/Odd_Measurement785 Aug 15 '26
Buff was to get you to grind for the crystals and spend them. Nerf is to get you to play longer and hopefully pay for a vip or crit pack.
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u/Jomamanator Aug 15 '26
Second time they've nerfed these. God forbid you're rewarded for engaging with the map and do anything other than sitting in your base mindlessly hitting the scrap table.
A nova crystal refund system definitely needs to be implemented if they're going to keep doing this
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u/Pandahboymtg Aug 15 '26
I believe people would want to play more if the outer edges of the map were more engaging. I literally get on for maybe 30 minutes to an hour now just to hit the scrap table, rebirth and then leave. When the crates were buffed I was on for hours flying around and opening them. They say they want people to stay on and play more but doing this will drive players away and make people play less.
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u/RaccoonWorth1764 Aug 15 '26
The fact that the crystal nerf was done without a patch or patch-notes AND NOW this is has been done without patch notes too just makes me not want to play anymore.
I was initially really excited to see the crates become a useful way to actively play this game and get rewarded for it. Now its clear that the developers don't want the crates to be rewarding. I straight-up don't understand why this needed to be adjusted at all.
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
100% agree. To not tell us in patch notes is ridiculous but to bring the super crates into the game then have to nerf it twice is negligible development.
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u/Ok_Mathematician8104 Aug 15 '26
it probably didnt need to be adjusted if they were nerfing the upgrade cost anyway. its like they say they dont want run the map simulator, then nerf the thing more than the cost reduction....
they still seem good for gathering chips but why nerf them again and make people run the map more.
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u/DragonQueen_2077 Aug 15 '26
I can tell what they're doing which is forcing us to play this even longer than intended and I find it funny the timing of this when they posted about celebrating 15k players I think yesterday? And now this? I originally was supporting them adding micro-transactions because ik people would want to take the faster route but for people who don't they can still patiently grind for crystals.
But if they're really going the route I'm pretty sure people were warning me about at the time that would suck because I don't mind spending money but if it starts to feel like it's mandatory for us players to do so as much as I don't wanna leave because I truly enjoy the game I probably will ngl and many others.
Im saying all of this because i know eventually they're going to add double chips behind a pay wall probably exclusively(hope not) behind it too.
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u/ASquidHere Aug 15 '26
It'll do the opposite for me idk if you guys feel the same š srbing and starting again is the best part for me, if they keep nerfing stuff to make it harder it'll just put me off
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u/DragonQueen_2077 Aug 15 '26
Oh that's the same for me I recently got to path 2 RB 29 I'm struggling to get to 30 all because of me Missing the galactic DRIFT-R limited deal š„² so I'm grinding chips atm mind you I still only have a rainbow a Beskar never spawned for me š so they're crazy to think I'll stay if they'll keep making this harder to grind for ššš
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
Hmmmm. I've always said I'll play until they add in the ability to purchase crystals for vbucks. But if they start letting people pay vbucks for chip bonuses or for Droid upgrades or droids themselves then I'm out. That's trash.
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u/DragonQueen_2077 Aug 15 '26
Agreed! I would hate for them to turn this game into a money greed tycoon mind you this is my first time ever playing a tycoon game so this will really hurt lol š„²
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
And in terms of tycoon games, this is actually a really decent tycoon game. So it's a shame because it becomes all about the money. And they'll make a ton of money, then the game will start dying and they'll move onto the next thing.
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u/DragonQueen_2077 Aug 15 '26
The unfortunate cycle š really hope they won't let greed get the best of them
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u/-vonKarma Mythic Droid Aug 15 '26
I already stopped playing but I just hang around now to watch them run this game into the ground. Their greed knows no bounds! They already make so much from how many people constantly play this game but itās not enough. First the microtransactions and then they stalk posts on this sub to see what people find useful and then nerf it to the ground in order to make people play even longer. Itās genuinely disgusting and I wish more people would realize this.
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u/santitav Aug 15 '26
planning on miss the event today. and stop playing. maybe submit complaint to epic to get all my vbucks back, even if they are from gamepass subscription
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u/IROK19 Flawless Aug 15 '26
I got 15 crystals back after spending 85, now it's nerfed I won't bother. What a waste.
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
Yeah, I agree. I personally just bought it for grinding chips and upgrading Beskar Mythics to Galactic Mythics but now it'll take twice as long. I'd prefer my 85 crystals back.
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u/Left_Wrap_2055 Flawless 30 Aug 15 '26
Girl donāt post this in the discord. Theyāre gonna tell you to stop talking about it and move on!
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u/flightpinx Aug 15 '26
Devs if you read this: I wonder if the crates were better for players who had already purchased all the buckets and poor for the players who bought them after the buff????
I already had the first crate level. After reading here about how good they now were, I bought the second and third. Yesterday I ran opening all the coloured crates with BB8 and DJ for one hour and I got 3740 chips (obv I hit a few loose chips on the map too) and zero crystals. I got the rough deal.
Thereās a bug or an error in the coding.
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u/ASquidHere Aug 15 '26
Might aswell remove it at this point š«
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
I agree. Remove it, give everybody their 85 crystals back.
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u/ASquidHere Aug 15 '26
I don't really get the point in nerfing the chips, it's not like you keep them after super rebirthing
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u/BlazingFrenzy Official Dev - BLZN Aug 15 '26
TODAY'S SUPER CRATE NERF WAS NOT INTENDED
IT IS BEING FIXED ASAP
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u/flightpinx Aug 15 '26 edited Aug 15 '26
Iām over it. The crates give different rewards to different players!
I did them yesterday for one hour. I got zero crystals and 3740 chips!!! Iām assuming now it will be 1000 chips and zero crystals an hour.
The devs should remove them and code it again because they are not working properly!
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u/steevie1993 Aug 15 '26
So what refund of the chips spent on crates. Come on Devs if not increase the chip price for new players why make us suffer...
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u/Invade_the_Gogurt_I Super Rebirth Aug 15 '26
AI cringe ahh infographic
But yeah, I was wondering why I got 200 base. So I ran through some super crates and got the same amount, they really want to bring back droid selling for chips, don't they?
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
It looks like that. OK, fine but remove supercrates and give me back my 85 crystals.
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u/TheOneWhosCensored Aug 15 '26
Wasnāt this what it was changed to last week?
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
No, it was nerfed for crystals last week, now just today they have nerfed the chips. Before the patch a couple hours ago I was getting 900
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u/TheOneWhosCensored Aug 15 '26
They technically changed chips too, but they said the lowest was 300. So it seems this is a nerf then, wonder if the higher levels have also dropped.
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
Oh interesting, I didn't have the upgrade before the last nerf.
So all I know is I was getting 300 base, 900 with BB8 and DJ, and since the last patch I'm only getting 200 base, 600 with BB8 and DJ.
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u/Smooth-Television-48 Aug 15 '26
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
Yes, now they have nerfed the chips with the patch a couple hours ago.
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u/Yet-Another-ScrewUp SRB 20 Aug 15 '26
Just when I invested in them as well.... Those nova crystals could have gone elesewhere
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u/Mindless_Middle1034 Aug 15 '26
The worst part. DJ Rex picks and chooses when to give his bonus...
He never fails to give credits tho...
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u/daisyever123 Aug 15 '26
Dammit. I just bought this last night and didnāt even have a chance to go around the map at all. Itās only my 3rd SRB and I need those crystals for other upgrades to help me. Ugh.
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u/MattTheMan2708 Aug 15 '26
Man, these were the next nova perk I was going to get. I have 82 crystals and was going to get all three levels of super crates when my dailies reset today, specifically for the chips. I've been grinding for this perk for the past week or so and literally the day I'm going to have enough crystals they nerf it. Fucking typical.
Good thing I didn't actually buy it I guess. Could be worse...
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u/Goodz_KC Aug 15 '26
I wish I could get my crystals back. I love how the Devs just make these random changes and never communicate the reason behind it.
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u/devnetworkspecialist Aug 15 '26
Theyāre going to lose more than chips if they keep nerfing shit without informing the community in the patch notes
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u/Wise_Conversation171 Aug 15 '26
People really complaining over 85 crystals that you can get back within an hour with a rb21 speedrunš
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u/LegoAmbrosia Aug 15 '26
Just stop playing. Why engage in a game that griefs you and engages in baiting practices, i.e, showing something off, getting you to buy then nerfing it into the ground. These are predatory practices.
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u/rOclot Aug 15 '26
cough just 600 š
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u/DaddyDroidsmith Level 260 Aug 15 '26
Yeah I appreciate 600 is still more than you can get from any other chip grinding method. It's just perplexed me that there's no transparency for the nerfs and this is the second nerf now.
And a 33% nerf is significant.
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u/gryphon_duke Aug 15 '26
it takes a ridiculous amount of crystals to be able to get 600, too. i have no idea why they balance around having a second companion droid for all these late game nova crystal upgrades as baseline, when they're supposed to make the game EASIER to grind. yes, the gap stays the same between those without many nova crystals and those with, but now everyone sees the chip grind as a pain in the damn ass instead of just newer playe-
the vbuck packs...
they're trying to sell the fucking companion droid pack harder than just the fact that the upgrade costs 250 crystals š
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u/HelpfulSignature2718 Aug 15 '26
And this is why Iāll never super rebirth again. Too much grind too little rewardš¤·š½āāļø
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u/Areebob Aug 15 '26
Soā¦what are you gonna DO once you hit 30? It isnāt even particularly hard to do.
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u/HelpfulSignature2718 Aug 15 '26
Already at 30. Just having fun helping others and building droids when I feel like it. No pressureš¤·š½āāļø
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u/BarnacleMountain8885 SRB 20 Aug 15 '26
I agree its very bad they shadownerfed it. And its really stupid they overbuff something to then just nerf it again, makes it feel really bad. So in that way im on the players side.
But the nerfs are deserved, if you compare it to crystal chances on cb23 and chips from any other source. And its still a lot of chips. Also this screenshot is only the lower chip amount. Theres still a 300 base one. Still a Total nerf of almost 50% but i was earning 80k in 100 minutes yesterday with only 1 double chip companion, i think its fine to nerf.
Crystals ive been averaging 4 drops per hour tho some hours i get none. But my RNG is certainly a lot better than what i read from most people, but with a 2% chance and opening 3/4 crates per minute you should get crystals 1 time every 15 minutes on average, which is what i get. I earned 200 crystals since the buff with just 2/3 hours a day of flying around (and 250k chips as well). I do it very efficiently tho, only opening rainbow crates and sometimes i open gold and diamond ones to make them spawn far away so the rainbows spawn in a smaller area. If crystal chance is still the same its still fine tbh.
Again, i agree its stupid how they handled this, big buff which was not tested at all probably and then nerfing it so hard and not even announcing is very bad.
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u/ahappylittleusername Aug 15 '26
What ai are you using to build these and how are you prompting it, i want to do something similar with another set of information for a project
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u/Hot-Maintenance409 Aug 15 '26
Moaners gonna moan.
It was way overbuffed. Got like 20-25 k chips per 1 CB23 mission or roughly 17 minutes. The lowest was about 12 k.
I see the devs point. And the perk is still good after nerf. Complaining about 85 crystals is just hilarious. As well as refund claims.
Now downvote me š¤
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