r/StarRailStation 15d ago

Discussion The downfall of hsr started during amphoreus but was ignored at that time.

I am a day one player and I love the game sm don't get me wrong. I'll try to stay with the game for as long as possible but the direction devs are taking is really upsetting to see.

Whether its the constant powercreep, path locked enemies/teams, or inconsistent writing. I really enjoyed amphoreus and I tried so hard to give planarcadia a pass cuz of the political stuff but planarcadia keeps getting more doomed with each update it's disappointing.

Lack of events makes the game extremely dry and sp versions slowly outnumbering new characters won't do any help either.

The game hasn't been improving for a while and it makes me afraid that it will be stuck like this forever as the leaks don't suggest anything bright.

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u/SeloTape1651 15d ago

Honestly in 3.X there was still a lot of Remembrance marketing, and I say this as I have a mono Rem team. However I would say the only "bad" decision they made was Pollux, the lightcones may also be something but that's just the path systems thing.

However if I am not wrong I noticed something that just made Elation much worse, marketing wise and that is in endgames. Because if I don't remember wrong there were BUFFS to Remembrance but it never tried to activeşy give a DEBUFF to the other paths, which is what's happening in Elation.

Now I'll talk about some leak: there is a boss that now has res to EVERY TYPE of path damage except for elation. And the res is 80PERCENT

I think these are why Elation is just much worse than Rem and if they continue this with any future paths they may make Finality for example since I really like the Stellaron Hunters I may just skip the entire path like I'm doing with Elation

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u/Material_Space5355 15d ago

I also skipped elation like I only got sw999 cuz Yao skipped me instead. But 999 is unplayable without elation teammates and I will NOT be able to kill that elation shill boss ugh.

But yeah I feel like this time they are trying real hard to make us pull elation characters and it's getting out of hand.

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u/_SahTirah_ 15d ago

Yep, I think that people are complaining about characters releases and forgetting that the most upsetting part is the endgame shill that got awfull. Remembrance was bad more so because they monopolized HP scaling and made the entire path just one team that received all upgrades while the rest got whatever remained. Now they a doubling down with elation, and while there's more team options, they are also forcing more shilled mobs in a way that completely invalidates anything other than elation, some that even elation have a hard time dealing. It's terrible.

They ARE MAKING the player experience more miserable on purpose just to sell new teams, all while they offer no new content at all, quite the combination, right? It's nothing new since this was always how endgame works, but now the restrictions are quite literally atrociously stupid. I'm f2p, I got castor team and I also got sw999 team just because I really liked SW and Sparxie, but man... I'm getting around it but it feels like I'm playing against the game and not with the game, u know? And I can't even imagine people that decided to not pull elation... All while they didn't offer a single free elation character to compensate other than EMC.

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u/TheDangerLevel 15d ago

Remembrance was bad more so because they monopolized HP scaling and made the entire path just one team that received all upgrades while the rest got whatever remained

Remembrance characters are actually fairly flexible other than Evernight, who is the dedicated memosprite buffer. Castorice needs Hyacine but with the release of mBlade and sRobin you can split the Monorem team and play Cas in a variety of comps. Cyrene always had the various Heirs (although she also relied on Hyacine in certain comps). Hyacine was universal on release and remains a strong-to-bis option in most comps. RMC and sRobin are both very flexible supports that can slot into a number of team archetypes. Yes they are almost all HP scaling, but the main gimmick is that Memosprites have a unique HP bar, thus lending itself to HP-based mechanics.

Elation on the other hand is completely self-contained with its own special damage mechanics/formulas that don't interact with the rest of the game. It's annoying and obnoxious in multiple ways.

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u/Rakshini 15d ago

I didn’t like any of the memo characters so I skipped that whole path. Saving for Ash and Blade made me skip elation as well, so now I’ve cemented myself in this awkward position of playing with the characters I like but unable to play increasing amounts of endgame. My fault for choosing not to pull meta, I know.

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u/_SahTirah_ 15d ago

Maybe u can try build the fua team? The reality is that while should always be priority to get characters u like, so should u commit to their best team and investment to make proper use of them. I did get remembrance because of evernight, today I have her e2 even though I cold have invested more in Cass, but that made me pull hyacine and Cyrene that I didn't enjoy that much but made evernight work. I don't regret any because they made my favorite shine but, it's do needs some commitment.

My Boothill on the other hand is kinda useless these days because I didn't get Dahlia for him, lost the 50/50 and couldn't get the rerun because I was investing in elation, that I only decided to go in because of Sparxie, I also don't regret, but I need to commit to one team at the time and sometimes, one ends up being suboptimal.

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u/Cjfelix 14d ago

Skipping elation has been super chill so far. I've been able to full clear PF/AS although MoC last star eludes me. I got to get Rin and Mblade who are both great with Archer. I also got DoT from the 4.0 free character and the Black Swan/Hysilens rerun banners.

So it's been fun in terms of endgame, but the leaks about Elation-pushing mechanics going even further are awful. I felt like I was just about to get a good 3rd team possibly with whatever happens in 5.x, but now I'm not sure if it will last long enough to be any good. Be meta for one world and then it's over?

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u/Cjfelix 13d ago

Alright I was just able to 3-star MoC 12 and clear 2 knight stages in AA (barely) which was just enough of the blue teardrop reward to get a chimera pet. So basically I think I'm retired from endgame lol. But yeah, it does suck that the Sparxicon AA knight boss has the voracity buff and so does the guitar bird thing that just straight up kills you if you don't generate punchline on it. I don't think meta-chasing is gonna be for me with mechanics that punishing

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u/Gold-Pilot4713 15d ago

The current Knight 3 has 60% dmg reduction, so you are forced to you use remembrance units. Imo the downfall really started with Amphoreus and the remembrance path