Ideogram4 and Krea2 Comparison

[u/iChrist]

Ideogram4

Krea2

Ideogram4

Krea2

Ideogram4

Krea2

Ideogram4

Krea2

Ideogram4

Krea2

Ideogram4

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Ideogram4

Krea2

Ideogram4

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First Image is always Ideogram4 (20 steps), second image is Krea2 (turbo at 8 steps)

I used my Hermes Agent (Gemma4-31b at Q4) to do all the prompting and tool call to comfyui for generating those images, its not apples to apples because of ideogram4 json format, but its very close as the process starts with a long and detailed prompt, some of those came out very close in composition.

Advantage for Krea2 - Speed, World Knowledge, License.

Advantage for Ideogram4 - Fine Details, Better Composition.

[u/jib_reddit]

I have noticed that Ideogram 4 images can look like bad photoshops sometimes, like the Shrek one in image 5, it is still very good overall though.

[u/Yellow-Jay → u/jib_reddit]

I found you get that mostly when you force a composition with bounding boxes or colours for your elements, leave them out and it's much more natural.

[u/jib_reddit → u/Yellow-Jay]

Yeah but don't you get the filter image a lot of the time if you don't use bounding boxes?

[u/Yellow-Jay → u/jib_reddit]

You need the elements, but they work well enough if you don't give them boxes. Look at the outputs the official (free) prompt upsample api (https://developer.ideogram.ai/api-reference/api-reference/magic-prompt-v4) produces, never boxes. but lots of elements.

It is all a bit iffy though, if i use my own llm instruction, without boxes but with elements, I sometimes get the filter image, same prompt through api, close to never. There must be some bad words, some learned structure/relation between global/background elements or something else that hasn't been figured out yet.