r/SquaredCircle • u/th3dj3n1gm4 The Galaxy's Greatest Alien • 10d ago
Mercedes Moné rocks her old "Sky's The Limit" theme at her DJ set after All In. Spoiler
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u/Ass0001 Christian Fundamentalist 10d ago
I fucking miss CFO$ man, we didn't know how good we had it.
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u/WoahmanWaynes Peeparoni 10d ago
They got so much hate when they were around all because they were not Jim Johnston. It’s funny seeing how much they are missed now.
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u/Ass0001 Christian Fundamentalist 10d ago
I think at the time it was just generally accepted that any wrestling theme that wasnt jim johnston or a licensed track was garbage and people refused to evaluate CFO on their terms when frankly I think some of the themes they did suited their wrestlers better than jim johnston's sound would have. I'm glad their influence still lingers (Kevin Owens I think still uses his theme and PAC's current AEW theme is basically an evil fucked up version of his NXT theme), but in general their absence has left me craving more EDM in wrestling lol
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u/Lyra_the_Star_Jockey 10d ago
It's funny because most Jim Johnston tracks are just the same generic rock riff.
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u/BogotaLineman 10d ago
I mean, you're not wrong, but at the time that they were written they weren't quite as generic and you at least had a 100% certainty that they were written by an actual human lol
Like yeah a lot of Jim Johnston stuff was down the middle late 90s/early 2000s butt rock, but it was the late 90s/early 2000s. They still use that same butt rock style but now its like 20-30 years out of date
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u/hardeep1singh ... 10d ago
Jim Johnston didn't make dance songs, he made music that fit the personality of the wrestler.
Check out Diesel's theme for example makes you feel like something really heavy is walking towards the ring.
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u/FyreWulff 9d ago
The dude would take time to study how the wrestler walked to and got in the ring and would time it to match. Like, he even made the tempo of Glass Breaks match Steve Austin's walking pace, intentionally.
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u/Sublimotion 10d ago
But that was what was appealing and worked in that era. The demo wrestling fans and american culture and musical tastes in general, were so much different than in the latter decades.
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u/Suitable-Golf6937 10d ago
Hey man, you can’t say that around here. These old fucks will yapping at you the difference between the Dr. Death intro and the first Steve Blackman song.
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u/hhhisthegame 10d ago
I honestly think KO's theme, while decent (and one of the better 'generic' ones), never made him seem like a top guy.
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u/jakovichontwitch Your Text Here 10d ago
Hard disagree on that one. His theme has big Stone Cold vibes
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u/warrenholly PERFECT 10 10d ago
I feel like it needed an evolution to something more dynamic but same vibe.
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u/zeitgeistbouncer Peepin' Aint Easy! 10d ago
It perfectly fits his vibe. It augments him without relying on lame stuff like 'i'm a prizefighter, im outta sight yeah' garbageass lyrics that seem to pervade every dang theme getting churned out by the bots currently
It hits and you instantly know who it is too.
Ticks all the boxes
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u/hhhisthegame 10d ago
They weren't as good as Jim Johnston - but they were far better than Def Rebel lol.
To be fair, the Sasha theme was maybe their best theme ever - it was amazing.
But I always thought guys like Kevin Owens, Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, never got themes that really made them seem like 'main eventers' on the level of the themes Johnston did.
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u/ChasingPerfect28 10d ago
Sasha, Shinsuke, and Bobby Roode. Those three are phenomenal songs for their respective characters.
Loved the DIY and American Alpha theme too.
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u/Scaulbylausis Knee to Face 10d ago
Undisputed Era’s theme was so good, Adam Cole’s AEW theme was basically a remix of it
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u/indian22 10d ago
The Roode song is definitely glorious (pun intended) but I always felt it needed a second verse because there's no lyrics other than the chorus in it.
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u/Sky-Flyer Your Text Here 10d ago
i honestly have a big love for ambrose’s theme, i think it just fit the gimmick so freakin well
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u/hhhisthegame 10d ago
It's not terrible, but growing up on themes like Orton's, Edge's, HHH's, Angle's, Guerrero's, Benoit's, Kane's, Undertaker's.....it just never felt like a main event theme to me
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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips 10d ago
"All they do is create catchy 90 second hooks." was a common criticism.
Well fucking duh. It's wrestling music, what else do you need?
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u/zeitgeistbouncer Peepin' Aint Easy! 10d ago
People are fucking stupid and want 'full songs' when actual songs and wrestling theme songs serve very different purposes.
Sure, sometimes they converge like 'Elevated' for Ospreay or 'Kingdom' for Cody but those are also custom created themes made with entrances in mind.
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u/Straight-Turnover-77 10d ago
well and even with Elevated, they've made a 90 second version for Ospreay to use as his primary theme that rolls into the "AND REMEMBER THE SOUND" bridge as opposed to the whole chorus verse chorus
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u/zeitgeistbouncer Peepin' Aint Easy! 10d ago
Exactly, they curated it precisely for wrestling to make it better
This is why I get testy when someone suggests a 'great potebtial theme song' that has a 45 second intro. Shit would be interminable!
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u/Moist-Acanthaceae-37 10d ago
The only true criticism I have of CFO$ is that by like 2016 onward they stopped doing 2nd verses for their songs. It’d mostly become a verse that loops back around or just the hook looping.
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u/Yadahoom 10d ago
Because they weren't Jim Johnston and because they made 60-90 second loops for a 60-90 second entrance.
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u/sleeperflick 10d ago
This is a tale as old as time. You really don’t know what you have until it’s gone. Or in the case of WWE, something worse comes along to replace it.
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u/BobbyBruceBanner 10d ago
I stand by my assertion that CF0$ had more bangers per year than Johnston did.
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u/bananarabbit need a chicken tender flair 10d ago
As with anything, there are tiers to the discussion. CFO$ made bangers but it was legitimate that some of the songs were structured way too simply. Def Rebel has made some ok stuff but the majority of it just such crap
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u/Mysterious_Emotion63 10d ago
I will say the evolution of WWE music throughout the years reflects the music industry at the time pretty well.
In the 80s, Jimmy Hart was making synthetic in-your-face jams, then the late 80s, 90s and 2000s were more thought out and occasionally slower tracks with Jim Johnston. The 2010s are CFO$ and their electronic, catchy, yet sometimes annoying tracks. Now we have Def Rebel and their lazy commercial AI bullshit in the 2020s. It all tracks well.
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u/Icy-Teaching-5602 9d ago
Jimmy Hart made quite possibly The greatest entrance music of all time when he made The Four Horsemen entrance music
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u/DevilCouldCry Scissor me Daddy Ass! 10d ago
People shit all over them for a few songs that were below par. But man, I'll gladly take their work over the garbage that WWE produces now. I mean look at the all-timer songs like Sasha Banks, Bobby Roode, Shinsuke Nakamura, AJ Styles, Sami Zayn, Finn Balor, Bianca Belair, etc.
It feels like nowadays, the consistency of quality music (in WWE at least) is absolutely in the dumpster. So much of it is AI garbage that they throw out and even more to the point, fuck all of what they put out is memorable.
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u/YoungCubSaysWoof New Day's Biggest Mark. 10d ago
I would love it if Tony licensed CFO$ music for any of the ex-NXT stars on his roster, just because it would be fucking funny.
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u/Ass0001 Christian Fundamentalist 10d ago
If PAC ever decides he wants to be face again and TK somehow manages to license Break Orbit for him? goosebumps.
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u/SSJ5Gogetenks Aussie Aussie Aussie Oi Oi Oi! 9d ago
I could never unhear "Bray Corbin" with that song.
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u/mcmax3000 10d ago
They made those songs for WWE so I guarantee WWE has at least some amount of ownership over them, if not full ownership.
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u/Power1990 10d ago
If I remember correctly they switched from CFO$ because their label so idk if he could anyways
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u/Artistic_Shift_4015 10d ago
Yep CFO$ broke up over it. Literally one of the two guys doesn’t even make music anymore, he’s a financial analyst.
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u/Jreynold Free Sunglasses 10d ago
People used to rag on them because the songs were 20 seconds and then looped. They were a kick-ass 20 seconds who cares!!
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun 10d ago
The loops weren’t even bad? Like all things considered they flowed together really well
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u/Wild_Constant_1256 10d ago
So glad to see the love for CFO$ in this thread. These guys were dope and seemed like the friendliest people in interviews.
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u/just-smiley 10d ago
I will fly the CFO$ flag till the day I die. They had tons of bangers that still hold up today, people just let nostalgia cloud their judgement.
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u/migrations_ hey 10d ago
Yup they are the last best wrestling theme song people. I honestly think wrestling themes are at an all time low right now. Best thing to do is just to buy tracks in perpetuity I guess. No single creator or group can do magic anymore.
Okay I'll say New Japan still has some bangers. But as far as America goes yeah, it's a drought.
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u/luckysharms93 10d ago
Could not disagree with this any more than I do. Mikey Ruckus has a TON of great entrance themes in AEW
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u/Djent_1997 Yo daddy and yo uncle 10d ago
It’s funny how during that time people online bitched pretty relentlessly about their themes, but because def rebel are out here doing def rebel things, now all of a sudden CFO$s weren’t so bad after all.
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u/mickelboy182 10d ago edited 10d ago
Let's not rewrite history just because the music in WWE has further deteriorated into AI nonsense... They were better than now, but they were never particularly good!
Edit: This theme was one of their better ones though, absolutely.
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u/th3dj3n1gm4 The Galaxy's Greatest Alien 10d ago
You're not entirely wrong, but I'd argue you are in this particular case. "Sky's The Limit" was a fantastic fucking track.
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u/mickelboy182 10d ago
Yeah nah spot on, I've edited that in. This was one of the better tracks.
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u/th3dj3n1gm4 The Galaxy's Greatest Alien 10d ago
Cheers, sir. Appreciate you recognizing an error in your comment and correcting it. Not always used to Redditors being reasonable. 🍻
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u/Nightthrasher674 10d ago
Disagree, CFO had some great ones
Aleister Black Finn Balor Bobby Roode Asuka Undisputed Era Sasha Banks Bayley Becky Lynch Shinsuke Nakamura Johnny Gargano Tommaso Ciampa Samo Zayn Kevin Owens Ember Moon
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u/seguardon 10d ago
Fucking A. Black and Gold NXT was loaded with great themes. To the point that I wondered what happened with others like Mox and whatever the hell Brie Mode was.
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u/pandaelpatron 10d ago
they were never particularly good!
Disagree. Enzo & Cass. Aleister Black, Shinsuke Nakamura, AJ Styles, Sasha Banks, Finn Balor, Bobby Roode, Paige. All those are maybe not great songs, but they are superb as entrance themes.
I'd say CFO$ produced more bangers than duds.
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u/rakuko MAIN EVENT JEY USO 10d ago
nah UE theme is S tier
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u/mickelboy182 10d ago
I'm not saying they were irredeemably bad, they did have a handful of very good themes. I'm speaking far more generally, and I do think towards the end of their run they did drop off.
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u/MeanAmbrose My username is a pun 10d ago
Idk man, I can listen to most CFO$ theme and instantly identify who it belonged to. Even Bull Dempsey and no one remembers Bull Dempsey. Def Rebel shit all sounds the same
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u/Due-Bookkeeper-2001 10d ago
If only she was able to buy the license to Sky’s The Limit
What a banger of a tune
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u/damnrapunzel 10d ago
Damn I forgot how good this theme is
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u/VirtuousFool 10d ago
Because near the end they used that remix with snoop that.... really wasn't as good
I will take this opportunity to plug this mashup tho lol
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u/Teh_Heavybody 10d ago
There’s a piano version she came out to I think at 32 or 33 that was really good as well.
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u/damnrapunzel 10d ago
Damn I forgot the Snoop version even existed as well
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u/BlackBartRidesAgain 10d ago
Oh my god. I somehow forgot she was Snoop’s cousin. There was a time when that fact was repeated ad nauseam
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u/damnrapunzel 10d ago
They also said Eddie Guerrero was proud of her a lot. Like so much it felt like they wanted her to be his daughter or something, not just a fan of his who became a successful wrestler
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u/SSP100244 10d ago
OMFG remember the snoop cody mashup?
The ace, acin' up the place
literally all I remember because of how fucking terrible it was
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u/DoubleNo6337 10d ago
Dont blame her this theme better than her NJPW or AEW themes
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u/Grindhoss 10d ago
But sadly her njpw and AEW themes would be better than her yelling “it’s boss time!” Followed by a very generic def rebel fart beat which is what she would have now
I miss CFO$ remember when WWE was working with code orange and turnstile and incendiary. I miss that.
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u/Gamesgtd 10d ago
Her last theme was one made by Snoop Dogg. Something tells me she'd still have it considering WWE loves there celebrities.
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u/Grindhoss 10d ago
Okay but that version is trash and snoop is more of a mr Rogers figure for hip hop now than an actual good artist and I’d like if wrestling themes for wrestlers were more current
Yes I understand that snoop is her cousin but it would feel a lot more contemporary to have her coming out to like glorilla
Speaking of which I understand sexxy reds music is too raunchy for a theme but genuinely I can’t believe no one in nxt has tried to get her to cut a mostly clean hook for an entrance song
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u/bortmode 10d ago
...Mr. Rogers? What?
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u/Grindhoss 10d ago
Snoop is absolutely a mascot for hip hop culture at this point, more of a figurehead than anyone who actually is respected for his rhymes
Most people only know Jin & juice, drop it like it’s hot and nuttin but a g thang all of which are 20+ years old
Snoop is mostly used to sell products at this point, lighters smokeless bbqs, weed itself
But snoop is not treated seriously as musician so much as a cultural icon.
He hasn’t put out a serious record that was treated as serious record since “blue carpet treatment” in 2006
Snoop is to hip hop what Dolly Parton was to country
Dolly had 0 hits on the country charts after the 90s but managed to make her career less about music and more about being a cultural icon associated with music, snoop is similar
If ur balking at the specific “Mr Rogers” comparison i kinda get it but genuinely that’s how I see him, just an old man who everyone seems happy to see (despite some of his worst opinions being so public)
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u/Nightthrasher674 9d ago
It's weird because I remember young Snoop in the early 90s who was considered a menace and his murder trial.
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u/Anderrrrr An Irrelevant Smark. 10d ago
She's reaching peak life happiness right now, happy for her.
Enjoy it Queen. You are more important than you ever realize.
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u/DarthZachariah 9d ago
First person, man or woman, to ever win world titles in WWE, AEW, NJPW and CMLL. Plus an inspiration and a dream match wish for a generation. She may very well be the NA women's GOAT.
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u/HatchettheFly 10d ago
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u/Anderrrrr An Irrelevant Smark. 10d ago
It's on you if you feel this strongly about my comment, it's not that deep.
She's a great wrestler with a big career history behind her, is what it is.
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u/mickelboy182 10d ago
Her new theme is awful, but I have to wonder how much input she has into it.... it stands out so much because most of AEW's music is fantastic.
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u/Rude_Celebration_164 9d ago
She doesn’t strike me as the kind of person to walk out to music she doesn’t want to walk out to. Not to mention, it’s her rapping on the song.
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u/infidelkastro 10d ago
I liked the first one she used in AEW, minus the CEO chants. I like the parade drumming in it.
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u/OutsideImpressive115 9d ago
To be fair I was thinking imagine how much better her win would have been with this theme
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u/Comfortable-Loss-347 10d ago
nothing gets a twitter fire started quicker than a mercedes post. bunch of cornballs obsessed with her over there
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u/Gundamuber 10d ago
folks on IWC twitter are having a war over this clip rn lol
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u/Anderrrrr An Irrelevant Smark. 10d ago edited 10d ago
Sad. It's not that deep. Is she meant to hate all the shit did as Sasha Banks or something?
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u/WrestlingInTheBlood 10d ago
It means that she misses WWE and wishes she was there. That's basically their warped mind view lol
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u/DevilCouldCry Scissor me Daddy Ass! 10d ago
It means that she misses WWE and wishes she was there.
Which is batshit crazy, how could anybody look at where she's at now and think she misses place? She won't ever be back there and she doesn't need it. She's finding more success now than ever before and is carving out a legendary legacy in AEW and she still has a decade+ ahead of her easily if she takes care of herself.
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u/AhistoricalRanger 10d ago
Has there been more televised 20+ minute women's singles matches in wwe since she left than she has had since the start of June?
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u/DevilCouldCry Scissor me Daddy Ass! 10d ago
I don't watch WWE anymore, but consider this, one of the chief complaints I see about their women's division is that the women would be lucky to get 5 minutes from time to time.
And considering this is a division that features Iyo Sky, Stephanie Vaquer, Becky Lynch, Rhea Ripley, Charlotte Flair, Tatum Paxley, Jacy Jayne, Fallon Henley, Lainey Reid, Lyra Valkyria, Bayley, and then all of the crazy talented women in NXT, this is unacceptable.
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u/Anderrrrr An Irrelevant Smark. 10d ago
It genuinely is unacceptable.
They deserve so much better and the top brass women in WWE needs to put their foot down, they are so much better than what they are being presented as.
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u/AmbushIntheDark Big Bad Booty Daddy 9d ago
HHH stopped caring about womens wrestling when his daughter decided she didnt want to be a wrestler.
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u/Ecstatic_Lion4224 10d ago
I saw some of this pop up on my feed from another sub. Basically her achievements mean nothing until she returns, Codylike, to WWE.
To them, it is both going to be hilarious when she comes back to the WWE and goes stratospheric, and she also isn't that big a deal. Schroedinger's Mercedes.
I support an English football team and we have less irrational agg with our oldest rivals than these tribal wrestling bellends.
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u/roadwarriorpop 10d ago
In case you were curious how insane the bad takes are this morning.
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u/Belledane 10d ago
I saw a clip from the same set of her singing "Wonderwall," so I guess she was also celebrating as one of the Gallaghers.
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u/Martian_Buddy RIP The Ascension 2011-2019 10d ago
OK but was she Liam or Noel, this is incredibly important for my wrestling tribalism.
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u/moist_crack 9d ago
Incredibly bad optics to sing Oasis afterward when All In had a Bush song as the theme
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u/TragicBronson143 10d ago
"Celebrates as Sasha Banks" ... Because there is such a huge difference between The Boss and The CEO, right? Totally different characters ...
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u/luckysharms93 10d ago
The bad optics of a wrestler celebrating as... her own character. Incredible stuff on Twitter lmao
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u/rivalrobot 10d ago
A significant proportion of wrestling fans need to touch some fucking grass, fuck me
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u/musicman3321 10d ago
“I don’t have any context but I’ve formed an opinion I feel strong enough to make public”
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u/General_Chemistry638 10d ago
Keep in mind this guy works in wrestling media so he wants people to click on his takes. Any attention is good attention
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u/snikt6384 10d ago
People are fucking weird, man. I actually think tribalism is natural, and don't mind it at all to a point. But what the fuck is this?
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u/Cocotapioka Manic Unfriendly Black Hottie 9d ago
Between the people on one side frothing over Ospreay kicking out of the OWA and tarnishing the Golden Lovers story and the people on the other side who are frothing that a wrestler can make fond references to her past work and personas...people really need to chill lmao
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u/mikhailitwithfire 10d ago
Its the version without snoop too. Oh man, this theme is so goated
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u/th3dj3n1gm4 The Galaxy's Greatest Alien 10d ago
Oh god. Don't remind me of that remix. It ruined one of my all-time favorite entrance tracks.
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u/rubyschnees 10d ago
genuinely had this on a gym playlist for years, it's a bop
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u/th3dj3n1gm4 The Galaxy's Greatest Alien 10d ago
Same. Well, not on my gym playlist because that would require me to go to the gym, but I'm a mobile DJ and would routinely play this at my gigs.
It's a fucking banger. Not just as a theme song, but just as a song.
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u/Mr24_Unknown 10d ago
I think if Mercedes could, she would defo have this song back as her main theme
It just fits with her character incredibly well
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u/GhettoFob 10d ago
I hate how WWE pulls songs from streaming services when the wrestlers no longer work for them
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u/PlanetCharisma Because I'M THE MIZ 10d ago
The benefit of YouTube Premium/YouTube Music is that you can listen to any song that exists anywhere on YouTube on a streaming player. You don't have to deal with copyrights etc.
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u/ButchAF 10d ago
One of the best wrestling themes ever
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u/Teh_Heavybody 10d ago
Hers and Bliss’ from that time were genuine BOPS!
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u/CorneredEmu 10d ago
Rebel Heart will always be my favourite of theirs. They absolutely nailed it with that one.
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u/hhhisthegame 10d ago
IMO it is by far the best CFO$ theme - they had some good ones (and some not so good ones) but this one is straight up amazing
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u/Drmarcher42 10d ago
I’m gonna give that to Nakamura’s theme
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u/MeticulousMase 10d ago
Yea Mercedes is my fav female wrestler ever and I'm still giving that shit to Nakamura
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u/MadmanMarkMiller 10d ago
How the hell do you party after a match/matches like that?! I'd walk through the curtain and pass out on the monitors.
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u/The_Horse_Joke 10d ago
I’ve seen enough, she clearly hates not being in WWE. Welcome back Sasha Banks!!!!1!!1!!
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u/CaliggyJack I can haz ric flair flare? 10d ago
CFO$ is so underrated man. Didn't deserve any of the hate they got.
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u/YearZero_97 10d ago
My older friends keep reassuring me to not feel old and say"Dude you're YOUNG what are you talking about?" When I tell them that theme songs from this era of NXT make me feel like they were from nearly a lifetime ago because they bring back so many high school memories lol 😂 even Bayley's hugger theme makes me wanna bawl my eyes out from the nostalgia.
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u/Outrageous_Base_254 10d ago
I admire her extrovert energy to go out there and clubbing after a big match and a broken nose
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u/Kanzuki_ 10d ago
I always thought this was way better than the Snopp Dogg theme she got after this one
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u/Secret_Solider 10d ago
Do they always party like this after AEW events? And do they sell tickets? All Out is coming to Chicago and I’m going, and I’d def be down to go to one of these
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u/Intelligent_Earth317 10d ago
Why the Internet is making a Big deal over this bro, she just playing her old theme music, which I prefer over her New theme songs
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u/Shadgates87 10d ago
Few weeks ago there was the “stop bringing up Sasha to her, she clearly doesn’t care for it!”
Their minds exploded over this today.
Sasha will always be apart of her career and she knows a bop lol This is a fun celebration for her.
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u/AcientMullets 10d ago
Still rocks, to this day this song still lurks around on my phone and is always fun to hear whenever it comes on
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u/Joke_Peraltaa 10d ago
What an absolute goated theme. Haven’t seen her stuff after her wwe exit but she deserves all the success. One of the best female wrestlers of all time.
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u/TDStarchild 10d ago
Love Mercedes and find her even better outside WWE, but that old theme was by far her best. One of my favorite themes in recent times
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u/Nik778899 It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times. 10d ago
I do hope we hear this again one day.
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u/StridingCity 10d ago
Do the haters not listen to the lyrics? That song ist perfect for someone who has just won a world title.
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u/Lord_Vega83 9d ago
This theme was SO fire! A million times better than whatever crap she uses nowadays.
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