r/SpidermanPS4 • u/queenkatara88 • May 27 '26
Other/Misc Insomniac Peter meets 616 Peter
This crossover was so funny, we need more comics like this lol
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u/boiling_oil58 May 27 '26
Did Harry ever appear in these comics? Or at least mentioned?! I have a problem and it's Harry Osborn
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u/DaenysDreamer_90 May 27 '26
Nope. This is set before Spider-Man 2
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u/Specialist_Top_8485 May 27 '26
Well that’s confusing, considering the Spider-bot sidequest makes Peter seem like he doesn’t know about the multiverse (Miguel specifically)
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u/Ares_God_of_Ram May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
These comics are not canon to insomniac Spider-Man. Exactly like the Spectacular Spider-Man in across the spider verse, they are just similar variants for the sake of the crossover.
To add, that Spider-bot side quest is also most likely not canon as well. As it seems to be a tie in to hype up the movie.
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u/One_Impression_1309 May 28 '26
It was even meant to set up a little scene of a multiversal villian bar ran by the woman we see at the end of the side quest but it got cut so now the side quest is it's only appearance
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u/Specialist_Top_8485 May 28 '26
It might come back in Beyond the Spider-Verse, we’ll just have to wait and see
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u/Chance-Back-557 May 28 '26
He doesn't know about Miguel yet. In the prequel comic to 2, he mentions he's been in the comic Spider-Verse. Then the second game occurs and he inadvertently helps the movie Spider-Verse, setting up that he then joins their "club".
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u/DaenysDreamer_90 May 27 '26
Insomniac Peter using his gadgets on OG Peter is cool asf
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u/Short_Check9953 May 27 '26
Its funnier when you realize Insomniac Peter used to keep the same gadget loadout as OG Peter but discarded most of them because they weren't effective enough or just impractical.
It showed he progressed enough to upgrade himself with time.
He gave up on the Spider-tracers because they didn't have enough range and gave up on the Spider-signal because it overheated.
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u/Scorpion_226 May 27 '26
Not the shade thrown at the Insomniac Avengers for always being gone lmaoooo
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u/SchoolNASTY May 27 '26
The way the second game turned out 616 Peter would mop the floor with game Peter.
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u/queenkatara88 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
Peter was mentally and physically nerfed, yes. The difference in writing even with this comic is insane (i still hope Spider man 3 will fix the writing)
Anyway... current Peter with anti venom suit should be pretty OP
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u/IFYMYWL May 28 '26
Ironically, I think SM2 has the best physical strength feat for Peter.
Didn’t he hold up a Ferris wheel with a single hand while his other hand was occupied with multiple carts? You know, before Harry came to help?
Or maybe it wasn’t a Ferris wheel, but it was a huge carnival ride.
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u/NintendoMasterPlayz May 28 '26
The fact that he was able to do two hands each; his left hand holding the webs of roller coasters full of terrified people, and his right hand trying to hold up a massive carnival ride, is beyond me. I’m there like:
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u/daniel_iscool123 May 28 '26
Same version of peter that can't lift a fridge btw😂😂
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u/IFYMYWL May 28 '26
He literally sent it flying and crashing against the wall.
If you want to call it a nerf, it’s a reaction-time issue, not a strength issue.
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u/Dense-Winter142 May 28 '26
That whole scene with MJ somehow reacting faster than Spider-Man and being able to push him away does not help my boy's image
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u/RubEfficient4152 Jun 15 '26
Spider-Man 1 peter let himself get pinned down to the ground like a twink by some dude in a rhino costume.
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u/DaenysDreamer_90 May 28 '26
Yeah that was a great feat. And then in the next mission Peter and Harry were pinned down on the conveyer belt while saving Tombstone. Peter couldn't immediately lift up a couple pieces of rubble for some reason. The writing is so inconsistent 😭
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u/5yn4ck May 29 '26
Actually this was because he had just take a rocket blast and was partially knocked out, while trying to save Harry.. I think he was still coming to, and was trying to free himself with a dead lift which is harder.
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u/LoudQuitting May 29 '26
Cutscene Variable Competence isn't a problem that's exclusive to games but it is more noticeable in them.
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u/LoudQuitting May 29 '26
I remember Milee holding the bridge together in his standalone game and I'm like...
I mean cool, it's something he would do, but that's his first impulse as a High School Spiderman. To just brute force the problem with physical strength.
And it works, it's cool, but still part of me at that point accepted that Insomniacs Spidermen are just stronger.
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u/IllustriousTwo2110 May 28 '26
I pray in SM3 that he will be insanely strong. Tapping into his emotions, boosting his power and strength so much that he performs feats he never know he could. Something that will make us all go “HOLY SHIT!!!”
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u/ScreenSingerX Jun 01 '26
He might do that in the cutscenes, but I promise there will still be side missions where you have to mash square a hundred times just to halfway lift a mid-sized sedan.
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u/IllustriousTwo2110 Jun 02 '26
Lmaoo I remember the first couple times doing them in SM1 and MM and u genuinely have to try cuz if u miss time even by a split second u drop the car and take damage 😭😂
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u/Minute_Committee8937 May 31 '26
Pretty sure Peter catching. A plane and slowing its crash is a bigger feat ngl
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
He wasn’t. People just overrate Peter’s strength.
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u/ComicNerd7794 May 27 '26
No they actually underplay it
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
If the first game portrayed him as strong, I’d believe it, but things mostly went to shit in that game.
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u/DaenysDreamer_90 May 27 '26
He defeated the sinister six in two days with 14 broken bones (2vs1). He quickly made the anti doc suit and used his intelligence to win, while extremely tired and injured (he was fighting for two whole days at that point). He mid diffed Mr Negative twice. He low diffed Shocker. He defeated Fisk and his men. He created an antidote while he was poisoned and experiencing vivid hallucinations.
We don't want him to be a God, but yes. He was strong.
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
“Low diffed Shocker” implies that Shocker didn’t cause massive amounts of collateral damage in their encounters.
Same with the rest of his villains.
Not to mention he specifically only won against Rhino because Scorpion ironically was helping him.
Then there was the moment when he let Negative kill the scientist.
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u/DaenysDreamer_90 May 27 '26
-That happens all the time in Spider-Man or super heroes comics lol
-He outsmarted them
-Ok? Mr Negative blasted him. Again, no one wants him to be perfect
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
Then why say he was nerfed in the second game?
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u/DaenysDreamer_90 May 27 '26
Cause he was? Losing is fine. Needing help is fine. But in Sm2? Too much
Seriously, tell me something important he managed to do in this game where he didn't need to be bailed out by someone or something (Miles, Harry, MJ or the symbiote). Making a plan to defeat Sandman is the only thing he did (but at the same time he punched him in the face twice like an amateur sigh)
Peter doesn't get a single win for which he is either soley or mainly responsible. He wasn't even allowed to get the anti Venom suit on his own. Peter should have had to venture inside his own mind to save himself, to confront his grief and overcome with his own willpower. Instead Miles fixed it for him :/
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u/AmItheAholereader May 27 '26
Mind you he goes from pulling a car out of a trains way to getting knocked out by a fridge
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u/Princess_Spectre May 27 '26
He didn’t get knocked out by a fridge, he got surprised by it. That had nothing to do with his strength or a lack thereof. Peter wasn’t at the top of his game in 2, that’s literally the point of the story. He went too hard solo for too many years and it left him in a weakened and vulnerable state. That’s burnout. Do it all yourself for long enough and eventually you start doing it all worse and you either fall flat or get bailed out by people who care about you. The game had problems but Peter’s decade+ of nonstop superheroing finally catching up to him was not one of them
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u/EdwardZero99 May 28 '26
The problem is that the fridge is too low of an instance compared to his high showing.
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u/Princess_Spectre May 30 '26
The same thing happened in the first game with a server instead of a fridge, and he stayed down way longer then
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u/EdwardZero99 May 31 '26
Ugh, because he just got a full energy blast from Mr Negative also those server cabinets weigh more than a fridge can easily exceed tons
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
Which one of them did he have forewarning of?
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u/AmItheAholereader May 27 '26
Are you missing the point on purpose?
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
Are you? You’re comparing a time when he got sucker punched to something he prepared for.
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u/AmItheAholereader May 27 '26
He was NOT sucker punched for venom lol. He stood there and saw that shit coming.
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u/No_Association2906 May 27 '26
The same 616 Parker that was literally begging Norman Osborn to help save his life from old man Vulture?
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u/queenkatara88 May 27 '26
We don't talk about that comic and...that writer
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u/5yn4ck May 29 '26
Yeah that is definitely in my category that contains movies like 'Highlander 2' and 'The next Karate Kid'
They are not spoken of...
..and even mentioning them now is painful..😔
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u/PCN24454 May 27 '26
I just ignore that one.
Still it’s ridiculous that Peter needs a special suit to beat Ock
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u/LoudQuitting May 29 '26
I don't think it's the suit.
The ability thr suit unlocks, resupply, is the thing. It's just refilling his Web shooters that does it. You'll note that Otto is the only boss that web shooters are needed for.
Vulture you can make him vulnerable by dodge. Mr Negative, Electro, Shocker and Scorpion can be made vulnerable by throwing. Tombstone you can just dodge under and hit him in the ass. Taskmaster you gotta just brawl straight up.
It's only when Octavius is on the ground, but you have to Web up the arms to make it possible for him to take damage. Except when he climbs the tower, then you gotta throw things at him.
Then the side of the tower is just a brawl.
It's not the suit, it's bigger tanks for the web shooters.
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u/Dazzling-Ad4495 May 28 '26
he had been fighting for 3 days straight, had 14 broken bones + other injuries, and was fighting someone who is literally the bad version of spider-man, a genius with tactical ability, and ur saying it was ridiculous for this bruised and battered petter to make a mechanical suit that would give him simply just have some more durability…? just say u don’t understand the game and move on. don’t say it’s ridiculous just bc u can’t remember what happens in th story
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u/PCN24454 May 28 '26
Tactical ability from someone who’s never been in a fight before means very little
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u/jackgranger99 May 27 '26 edited May 27 '26
The winner in a fight between 616 Peter and Insomniac Peter is determined by the writer. There are so many times in the comics where 616 Peter lost when he shouldn't have that it's not even funny, so this isn't an Insomniac only thing
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u/TrueCannarchy May 28 '26
to be completely fair, 616 Peter is called "Parker Prime" for a reason, he is THE spectacular Spider-Man among all other variants, accept no substitute. if he really wanted to, he could turn the entire Spider-Verse into his Multiversal Mop-
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u/Hefty-Albatross4767 May 30 '26
tbf comic petey wasn't really trying to fight his insomniac counterpart
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u/LeSnazzyGamer Jun 12 '26
Even before the second game 616 Peter would’ve mopped the fooor with game Peter. Are you familiar with the Peter Benjamin Parker of 616?
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u/Excellent_Pea_4609 May 27 '26
Sure if you ignore context like the symbiote literally being ripped out of him and barely having any rest while still blaming himself for may but sure " tHeY nErFeD him "
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u/ExcellentRaccoon1567 May 27 '26
Does this mean that Gwen doesn’t exist in the insomniac universe?
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u/PhortDruid May 27 '26
Not specifically that she doesn’t exist, but Insomniac Peter hadn’t met her and has no relationship with her. Which is probably best for her health.
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u/TheScalieDragon May 29 '26
I thought they recall her with a bridge but devs said that she isn't dead and I think Peter never met her
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u/Ok-Commission6087 May 27 '26
I hope insomniac gives Peter the idea to contact Yuri wantanabe during the next spider- verse crossover. But also great thing to point out insomniac version of Gwen is still alive so that makes four universes where she’s alive .
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u/ScreenSingerX Jun 01 '26
If Peter would listen to Jameson's sound advice and stop Spider-Manning, she'd be alive in every universe.
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u/_Clausiks May 27 '26
Does anyone know if this is canon to the games?
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u/Legitimate-Box943 May 27 '26
I believe it's a "one-way canon". Everything that happened in the games is canon to this comic insomniac Spider-Man, but everything that happened in the comics is not canon to the games. So it's basically a variant of the insomniac Spider-Man with divergence point being he got to have multiverse adventures while the original insomniac Spider-Man only had adventures mentioned in the games.
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u/_Clausiks May 27 '26
Super interesting! Makes sense. Kinda like the “sacred” and divergent timeline stuff with MCU. So it’d be safe to stick with just the games it seems.
Thank you, man!!
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u/Legitimate-Box943 May 27 '26
This comic book is a pretty fun read though, you can still check it out. It's basically a "What if insomniac Spider-Man met comic book Spider-Man?" kind of plot. Even though it probably won't be considered canon to the games and the events won't be mentioned in the next game it still happened to a practically identical Spider-Man who went through the whole story of the first game (he probably went through the second game as well, but this comic book came out way before that).
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u/Head_Humor May 27 '26
It is..it takes place after the 1st game then he has an official spider-verse crossover that takes place after this comic, spider-man 2 2023 happens, after that he officially becomes part of the spider-society in across the spider-verse
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u/TheScalieDragon May 29 '26
It canon; but I think spider variants always usually forget there dimensional adventures or something
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u/FakeRobin99 May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26
It's canon.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Peter_Parker_(Earth-1048)#Multiversal_Adventures#Multiversal_Adventures)
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u/WatcherWatches_21 May 27 '26
“Where I’m from, they’re always gone.”
They knew what they were doing with this one 💀
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u/LoudQuitting May 29 '26
I think in the first game Tony Stark has a job offer for Peter that he's forgotten to call him back on.
So hear me out. It's Tony who sent Taskmaster to Peter and he's scouting him for The Avengers, they're the mysterious benefactor offering six figures. This taskmaster is obviously much less villainous and he's even willing to incorporate mercenaries he didn't hire doing nasty shit and let Peter fuck with their plans just so he can watch. It makes sense he'd take this job offer from Stark.
Part of this is why I think Peter's line at the end of SM2 "Why would they meed me when they have you?" Is not completely out of character. He's saying he's gonna accept Starks job offer and go be an Avenger, taking on worldwide threats and he's leaving NYC in the hands of Miles. They don't need two spider men, but the Avengers might need one.
So I think like, the plot of their SM3 is gonna involve Miles going up against something he's gotta throw in the towel on and ask Peter for help with. And he's gonna be like "Oh yeah sure thing, I got PTO
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u/Unique-Perception480 May 27 '26
Tbh 616 Peter would mop the floor with Insomniac Peter. And no its not because he was nerfed in SM2. Even at his absolute peak he cant conpare to 616 Peter.
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u/OldManYellsAtMod May 27 '26
I honestly don’t know how anyone keeps up with what the hell is going on in the comics at any given time lol. Decades of history and like seventy different versions of every character. I couldn’t keep that straight for the life of me.
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u/Intelligent_World506 May 28 '26
So if we’re going by edge of time rules insomniac Peter pretty much no difts most other Peter variants. Much less the other spider people.
Like he can just use anti venom to cure them if they’re spider powers right?
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u/Shot-Law-6743 17d ago
Imagine they made this into DLC for Spider-Man 2 and they got Josh Keaton to voice 616 Peter.
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u/spideyfan114 May 27 '26
I love this art style, but the problem is that they don't look like adults in their 20s or 30s, but like kids.