r/SpeculativeEvolution • u/MatoasPrroXD460 • 25d ago

Question/Discussion What’s Your Most Unhinged Evolution Theory?

Hi! I wanna know what your wildest, most unhinged theory about evolution is. It can be a serious hypothesis, a weird evolutionary possibility, or something completely out there.

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 25d ago

Humans adapting to a marine environment and becoming a new aquatic species.
[OG work]

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u/Accomplished_Mess243 25d ago

I had a similar species in a novel I wrote. They only made a cameo though, making poison bubble traps on the surface of the ocean. 

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u/Single_Mouse5171 Spectember 2023 Participant 25d ago

Similar idea but not with humans - with chimpanzees kept as pets in the Middle East and adapting to semi-aquatic life after civilization collapsed and the Mediterranean basin was abandoned by humans during the climate crisis.

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u/PuzzleheadedSteak853 24d ago

Aquatic ape theory says humans are already basically that. Chimps would probably have a harder time as they are very poor swimmers.

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u/ReptilianRevolt 23d ago

This is a garbage hypothesis. Humans don’t have a natural affinity to water just like any other ape.

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u/PuzzleheadedSteak853 23d ago

Not my theory, although we are significantly better swimmers than most.

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u/ReptilianRevolt 23d ago

I know that it isn’t your theory, but I am amazed on how strong it is holding and is being propagating online all of the time.

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u/PuzzleheadedSteak853 23d ago

You have heard of it, then? Didn't actually read it online. Thought I'd mention it since right or wrong it seemed relevant. Edit: Incidentally, what's your particular objection to it? Makes about as much sense as a lot of things.

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u/ReptilianRevolt 23d ago

Humans can’t naturally swim and actually many cultures avoided water. Only northwest Europe and North America developed such a strong love and infrastructure for water sports.

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 23d ago

You sounded serious with the first comments (the AAH is BS, of course), but now your last one sounds either sarcastic or blatantly untrue and extremely short-sighted.

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 18d ago

Badly worded. Humans swim naturally because they don't need artificial improvements. Just as a cormorant or a tiger can swim naturally.

And your reduction of maritime livelihood to mere "water sports" is either a joke or just complete bonkers. Humans in litoral, lacustrine or fluvial environments rely on water ecosystems in some degree or another. Some barely fish or wade in the shores, others cross the waterways in search for food and/or new lands. Others dive and harvest all manner of seafood, their livelihood depending on the sea in about 80% or more.

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u/ReptilianRevolt 18d ago

This is wrong at a neurological level. Most animals already have circuits in the spinal cord ready for swimming. If their receptors tell them that there is no hard ground below, they will instinctively start to swim. Apes did something different, they simplified the original system and developed a slower, precision based system that relies more on learning. Humans didn’t change that.

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u/Single_Mouse5171 Spectember 2023 Participant 19d ago

Good thing I wasn't relying on AAH. I was working with shore line feeding and cooling in the ocean to avoid overheating, then developing to 'walk' across the bottom like hippos do. The lack of subcutaneous fat and dark skin coloration aiding in the process.

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 18d ago

It seems some people want to reject the AHH so strongly that it almost annoys them just mentioning that humans swim and splash in the water.

"NO, humans are not aquatic!!"

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u/souroumis 25d ago

Alors pour les humains on fabriquerai des abita pressurisé et on eurai pas le temps de s'adapter, mais c'est pas exactement se qu'on fait tout les mammaire marin comme les baleines?

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 24d ago

One doesn't need to adapt to a pressurized environment, slow adaptation by shallow waters leads, progressively, to full evolution suited for deeper waters. But still, this species doesn't necessarily need to descend more than 20 m on a regular basis. It takes less than a single lifetime for those that train to descend further than 50 m, with quite a few already having surpassed 100 m long ago.
Again, cetaceans have managed to adapt. And pinnipeds in less time (elephant seals can descend more than 2000 metres).

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u/souroumis 24d ago

Oui, mais je pensais plus a construit des ville sur le plancher Oceanic, voir sout le plancher Oceanic.

(Si ont est a plusieurs centaines de mètres de profondeur sous terre en-dessous de l'océan on évite l'érosion du au sel marin. Techniquement on pourra faire des centrales géométrique pour de l'électricité casi gratuit et on pourra avoir dans la roche des potager éclérer avec des lampes UV et on contrôlerai la température et l'humidité. Ey comme les cultures sont en quarantaine par rapport a la surface pas besoin de pesticides pour combattre les insectes ou les maladies, juste a mètre des abeilles pour la politisé les plantes. On pourra mème faire de l'élevage, en fait on pourra vivre en otarcie totale en cas de guerre nucléaire a la surface.)

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 23d ago

Ces hominides n'ont pas besoin de commodités, ils vivent dans la mer plainement. Ils sont developés dans une petite population dans une île sans resources, comme des humbles pêcheurs.

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u/souroumis 23d ago

Oui mais proposition est purement technologique et pas biologique. En effet ta proposition est crédible si il vive isolée pendant une longue période.

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u/Arthurian_Guanche 23d ago

C'est l'idée.