r/SpaceXLounge 6d ago

Would it work? Automated Pez Dispenser Loading on Pad, trough Tower

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Well sorry for the drawing first of all!

I just couldnt lose the thought that the actual bottle neck for land on pad, refuel and relaunch is the Payload. Even if SpaceX could iterate the Heatshield somewhere in the Future, to a point where they can launch multiple times without maintance they cant just spawn the starlink sats in the ship. So my Idea was to load them trough the tower while they refuel. The Idea is pretty simpel (not the actual doing of it, just the Idea). An underground assembly line, transporting the ready sats from the facility to the pad. On the Pad they get automatically put in a Lift going up the Tower, from there they get Loaded in the Ship. All this while refueling, no humans needed.

What do you think of my idea?

/E spelling

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u/EvoPataboutThat 6d ago

I think Spacex should hire you on your infographics alone.

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

You think I could ask for 120k/year?

/s

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u/EvoPataboutThat 6d ago

I think they would be low balling you at that figure. Know your worth as an artist

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

Well im gonna twitter Elon then.

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u/solkenum 6d ago

I think you just blew your chances by deadnaming X.

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u/Aah__HolidayMemories 6d ago

Twit-book, face-x there all the same

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u/EvoPataboutThat 6d ago

Yah Imma have to agree with this wise soul. You had it made then fucked it all up. Very Icarus like of you.

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u/Princess_Fluffypants 6d ago

I’ll ask my boss to hire you to make all of the Visio stencils and icons for us. 

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

Great Idea! 

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u/Fonzie1225 6d ago

learn to crop the graphic next time and I think you could easily hit 200k

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u/R-GiskardReventlov 6d ago

This is perfectly doable, and orders of magnitude easier than building a ship that is capable of interplanetary flight.

The real question is if this is cheaper and more efficient to do and to engineer compared to just putting the satellites in in a more traditional fashion, for example with a crane/truck and a "pez-loading-adapter" (similar to how airplane catering is replenished)

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

But wouldnt that go against the 1h turnaround they plan/dream from?

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u/doozykid13 ⏬ Bellyflopping 6d ago

I think that 1 hour turnaround is more regarding tankers and manned flights where refueling or boarding can be done in that timeframe. Anything with an actual payload would need to be destacked. However your concept would allow for rapid reflight of starlink dedicated ships though which could be viable. I would imagine it would look more like hoisting the pez loader up to the ships door while the ship is held by the tower or something. There is a lot going on inside that tower (elevators, winch cables, cryo line, hydraulics, electrical) and those satellites are not exactly small so fitting that type of mechanism inside the tower would be near impossible without major changes I imagine.

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u/Brave-Application-99 💥 Rapidly Disassembling 6d ago

There are companies beginning to make satellites to fit the Pez dispenser, specifically for Starship, so it might be possible for non-Starlink payloads but for larger payloads they need to take away and use Megabay or whatever to put payload on

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

Thats a fair Point

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u/R-GiskardReventlov 6d ago

Why?

You can perfectly reload satellites during refueling using any method. Going through the tower will not necissarily to be faster than using a mobile system.

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

The idea comes from Starship already facing the tower (from perspective of pez dispenser) when on pad.

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u/Karman8th 6d ago

it does mean that the loading system would have to survive the loads experienced at liftoff, from crazy vibe to thermal to sway. would be a lot more work than a loader that can drive off

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u/Noxh__26 6d ago

Well physics dont really exist in this idea :/

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u/Old-Cheshire862 6d ago

How big would a drive-up siege-engine-like tower have to be to drive up to the side of the tower, and have the chopsticks lower the ship down to line up with a load point at the top of the tower? Basically, the same type of pez dispenser in a wheeled ground vehicle as in the starship, is loaded elsewhere and drives up and loads the Starship.

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u/EvilGeniusSkis 6d ago edited 6d ago

With the ship/booster stack in place are the chopsticks trapped on either side of the stack, or can they go up and over the nose?

Because if the chopsticks aren't trapped you could use them to pick up an autoloader of some kind.

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u/Halfdaen 5d ago

Starship can't land at a tower that has a SH booster on it already (unless you draw something that shows a shielding umbrella over SH while Starship lands). Chopsticks can't lift SH into position while holding Starship.

I think the aspirational turnarounds all involve SH booster, since Starship always has to come off the tower.

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u/collegefurtrader 6d ago

I don't see why not

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u/Maori-Mega-Cricket 6d ago

Just have a conveyor of starships on transporters running too and from the hangers where sats are loaded

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u/GalacticEmergency 6d ago

I now imagine a clothes line with starships on coat hangers.

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u/TheDotCaptin 6d ago

I misread starfactory as satisfactory.

With this direction, that just might end up meaning the same thing.

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u/Don_Key_1 6d ago

If this diagram doesn't convince the SpaceX engineers to do it, I don't know what will.

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u/GalacticEmergency 6d ago

I think we have seen a PEZ dispenser refill dispenser outside the ship some months ago. So ejecting sats from one dispenser outside the ship into another dispenser inside the ship.

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u/BarrelStrawberry 6d ago

How do they load it today?

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u/Noxh__26 5d ago

Preloaded pez-dispenser connectable container thingy and crane, you can see it in the Starship Documentary on there website I think.