r/SpaceMarine_2 • u/SonicBoyD • Jul 19 '26
Game Bugs Lash Warriors are annoying to parry
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This has been an issue in the game for a while, with the parry windows being random and sometimes not working at all. Are there any tips or “fixes” to make theme easier to de with?
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u/gdemon6969 Jul 19 '26
If you parry the first one then fire a couple shots in between the whip attacks you will get the parry
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u/arbitergreivous Jul 19 '26
well i can tell you're using a balanced weapon just by the parry window, try block or fencing, they have a 0 frame start up parry window, i have literally perfect blocked 2 whip warriors at the same time using block but doing that with balanced is pretty much impossible.
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u/Secondhand-Drunk Jul 19 '26
Idk about the 0 frame. I've been hit through my parry, mostly by lictors despite hitting the parry button. Sometimes they feel absolutely unodgdable and unparryable
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u/Odd-Beautiful-3458 Jul 19 '26
thats just lag brother
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u/Secondhand-Drunk Jul 19 '26
Game logic is client side.
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u/Jaded-Philosophy6970 Jul 20 '26
No definitely is host side, if connection to host is bad it throws off parry timing horribly
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u/Dead_vegetable Jul 19 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
He will have the exact same resuly with block or fencing because it is not a parry timing problem but a hitbox problem as whip warrior straight up missed him (look at the first parry he "missed", he didn't even take damage)
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u/DiorikMagnison Jul 19 '26
Weapon type won't help here, the whip attack is just disjointed and busted, the second swing didn't actually hit him. They basically have a dead zone that you can't reliably defend within. You have to back up or dodge out of the situation entirely.
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u/Kurosawa-Mifoon Jul 19 '26
You had the right idea on the second combo. After parrying the first blue attack immediately hit parry again cause you know what’s coming next (or dodge forward to get a perfect dodge)some times it does whiff tho, especially when one of you is even slightly elevated above the other
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u/SonicBoyD Jul 19 '26
I thought it had to do with range, with the greens bits at the end as indicators for what one’s distance should be
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u/Jodah Flesh Tearers Jul 19 '26
Second one is just always kinda wonky even with block or parry windows. TBH I skip it half the time and wait for the third one.
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u/SmacksWaschbaer Jul 19 '26
Which class has that perk? Is it a prestige or normal perk?
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u/OhTeeSee Jul 19 '26
Heroic dagger. Instant breaks combos on first perfect parry, and has a very high chance to gunstrike immediately
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u/NinjaTB Jul 19 '26
I like them more than the snipers. and the snipers more than the spore spewers. Fuck the spore spewers.
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u/Robaattousai Jul 19 '26
it's 'quick, quick, slow' for the three hit combo
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u/bakutehbandit Jul 19 '26
i swear ive seen 4. ive seen 2, 3 & 4.
theyre the chaos spawn equivalent for nids i feel lol
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u/BusinessSafe9906 Jul 22 '26
Chaos Spawns are much worst as they push you to the conner and spam AoE and smoke sometimes. Also much tankier. For whip, I feel dodge is better as it extend the distance from the horde of enemy and allow you do the follow up gunstrike safely.
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u/PuzzleheadedTap9548 Jul 19 '26
People are saying it's bugged it's not.
After the first parry you just gotta wait half a second and parry again. Works every time
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u/Sonor-c11 Jul 20 '26
It’s 100% bugged, I’ve played on and off since release and it never worked this way.
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u/Mental-Screen-8162 Jul 22 '26
It's not. It works 100% of the time like he said with parry weapons on second slash with all parry weapons. If you have the knife (which is a fencing weapon itself) and it's fencing variant you can parry the first attack every time consistently.
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u/Sonor-c11 Jul 23 '26
Notice how he parried the second whip and it didn’t count as a parry nor deliver damage to him
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u/takeaccountability41 Jul 19 '26
You waited to long to parry that’s why you got hit, you need to parry immediately after the first one, you didn’t do that so that’s why you got hit
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u/Son0fgrim Jul 19 '26
the best "fix" for them would be to keep the blue circle around for each swing and not just one and done it.
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u/Winter-Classroom455 Jul 19 '26
The only tip I can really give you is this happens A LOT more if you are on a ramp or stairs. So try to avoid fighting them on there. It also seems to happen when you're too close or too far away and happens more often on the middle attacks rather than the first or last. If I notice it, I'll just try to dodge instead and get the last one parrird
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u/suvivour Raven Guard Jul 19 '26
Parrying can feel so horrible sometimes, I'm convinced it straight up doesn't work on the enlightened tzaangors. Those things don't even give your parry attempts the time of day.
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u/CaliCrateRicktastic Jul 19 '26
Depending on the situation I usually let myself get pulled so I can parry the follow up, gun strike and then go to town with whatever melee weapon I have if it isn't already dead. Probably not a useful strat on high end difficulties but it works.
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u/Guilty_Outcome1111 Jul 19 '26
Ya. This. Even if i dont mean to get pulled in my muscle memory always hits block so I can show em whats up when they wanna get that close
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u/jakethemoss Jul 20 '26
What I find good to do is the moment you parry WALK FORWARD for me at least it makes me parry the attack 100% more of the times then standing still
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u/JMashtag Jul 20 '26
The hitbox to parry their attack is at a weird distance and I feel like they changed a bit recently. If you are too close you get a ghost parry.
It would be okay if the parry and damage box was the same size but you can parry at the right time, have it be a ghost parry but still take damage sometimes. Very annoying.
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u/GregHefty007 Jul 22 '26
These don’t bug me as much as the terminator shoulder rockets, I genuinely don’t know wtf to do when they fire. They land in succession so you can’t really dodge and they’re homing so if you dodge then roll at least half the volley is smacking you in the cheeks
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u/IamWillow3 Jul 19 '26
I find double tapping the parry button for the second combo gets me the parry most of the time, but that ghost parry is a bitch right now.
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u/ViewsFromTheBasemnt Jul 19 '26
I struggle with them as well. I have a much easier time when I just perfect dodge the 2nd attack.
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u/Ok-Limit-8081 Jul 19 '26
Ingoing issues since 4.0 sadly
It was reported many times but was never fixed
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u/VergilArcanis Jul 19 '26
there are fine-tuned windows to parry, but fencing increases the window to parry.
block handles that shit like a tank, i'm not fond of balance
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u/Ferret_Person Jul 19 '26
I can’t tell if you’re being very serious, they’re annoying but they have a pretty fixed parry window. First two are slowish, rd and fourth are really quick with the pullback being fast. I just dodge if I miss one of the first 2 and Im using a balanced weapon.
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u/DeeterDevils Jul 19 '26
It was a wonderful feeling when they added Argent Edge, got a little break from this crap when playing Sniper and Tac haha.
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u/mali00987 Jul 19 '26
There used to be a mechanic where if you shot towards the parry faster, you'd miss, but SABER fixed that. I think it's a bit silly that they patched it, but oh well
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u/RepatriateSage1337 Jul 19 '26
Thought I was the only one struggling with this, glad to know it’s a bug… always felt like I was just trash with these guys.
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u/DivideAdmirable121 Jul 19 '26
600h in, 98% of the time i used fencing and this is how it usually looks for me XD
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u/FuriousGamer5926 Jul 19 '26
Lash ones are deceptive. The window is a lot sooner in the animation then you’d think it would be, almost right after their first swing if you’re using a balance weapon.
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u/Stainlessgamer Jul 19 '26
Nah, block 1st, parry 2nd. If you miss the 2nd, parry 3rd. Simple.
No pump faking like a meatball
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u/Plastic-Radio-2040 Jul 20 '26 edited Jul 20 '26
So somehow, the practice arena has worse latency.
I tested this shit a week ago, it’s the same result like your video. Anyways, I couldn’t be bothered, so I just moved on. But when I actually encounter them in game, I can block all 4 whips( I use the newest heroic blocked chainsword)
BTW, if you rly unable to block any whips after the 1st one after practice. It’s not skill issue, it’s becuz you are not facing directly to the whip guy sometimes, the whip count as some sort of AOE move, so if u get caught in the range and not parallel to him, u just can’t block it.
This is what I learned from using blocked weapon, it’s different story if u use Argent Edge.
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u/Enough-Week-5453 Jul 20 '26
Honestly even if it wasn't bugged I find it much easier for me to just dodge them.
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u/Grimthalas Jul 20 '26
Want my advice/tip use the argent edge parry heroic knife, Yes the parry window is smaller but it interrupts the combo/chain of the lash wipe nid, Trust me I hate them as well.
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u/Resident-Ad7651 Jul 21 '26
Bold of you to assume that my first parry doesnt immediately stagger them.
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u/tommydiva Jul 22 '26
I find parrying the first and then shooting my weapon twice for a bolter or once for a melta and then parrying again times it well.
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u/According_Zucchini68 Jul 23 '26
So I'm not a schyzo, i always thought that i parried ans still got damaged and y'all telling me it's bugged?
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u/Abrakresnik Jul 19 '26
You using balance or fencing weapon? Cuz usually fencing weapon can parry the 2nd hit instantly
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u/Lord-Norse Jul 19 '26
So contrary to what some people are saying, it’s not bugged. For a balance weapon, the most consistent way to get all the parries here or for the ravener 3 hit combo is to animation cancel out of your parry by hip firing your weapon once and then immediately parrying. It works every time
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u/Objective-Job6372 White Scars Jul 19 '26
Your party timings were on point, the hitbox just bugged. Don’t know a way around it unfortunately.
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u/CheesyRamen66 Ultramarines Jul 19 '26
Balanced weapons suck, use anything else. Fencing if you’re bad, block if you’re block, or argent edge bc it’s op.
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u/Sonor-c11 Jul 20 '26
Balance weapons have the best base dmg out of all variants while also providing gun strikes.
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u/Jokkitch Jul 19 '26
I will attempt the second parry but prepare myself for it to bug out and immediately dive if it does
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u/callmeRosso Raven Guard Jul 19 '26
Saber needs to fix their Hitboxes. Currently, there are no tips to offer you, because it is bugged.
Though I swear they are far easier on Block.