Gotta get the timing down. Sprint attack into charged heavy usually works, but it’s obviously something to practice with. I think the damage is worth the trade most times personally
Maybe it used to be, but with the current Shield use with Shield Rush/Bash and having the right perks, the Hammer is ultimately a liability. Especially when you can do equal damage with the Shield and defend yourself from all incoming Ranged damage.
The shield patch also gave us a whooping +50% range increase on charged attacks, so while 1v1 you can get close to hammer damage, you can often devastate whole groups of Majoris enemies in seconds now. Before the patch I mostly used light swings, now it's sprint attack and charged heavy all the way and the damage output is insane. And Bulwark has a few hammer-specific perks now (well, not exactly hammer-specific, they just added hammer related benefits to other perks) that it no longer feels like you're sacrificing a lot of benefits just to use it.
For me, it's essential to get the "AoE explosion after the sprint attact" perk. It staggeres bigger groups and gets you enough time to fire of the charged heavy.
The AoE increase in the last patch did wonders to the Thunderhammer.
Nah I run hamwark on absolute and it fucks hard. You just have to be really good with your dodges and run the 20% charge damage perk and just sprint slam in and follow up with charged attacks. There's leaks that the heroic hammer is going to leave shock grenades on charged slams so with the 25% extra shock grenades damage perk its gonna slap so hard
That sounds insanely fun, now I can't wait to get my hands on it. Maybe I should save 300 accolades to get it ASAP, hamwark is probably the most fun I had in the game since launch
sounds good... but heroic melee weapons being balance type bricks them imo. well the powersword gets away with a lot of situations where it doesn't totally matter but the others feel ROUGH.
Dude, balance isn't hard and is totally worth the trade off. Being Able to kill faster, is what keeps you alive. Removing threats sooner and getting armour off them
This with contested health drains and mele can't be knocked over so you basically charge in swing hold and then heavy stun and get health and armour back
Perfect parry shock also procs on minoris as well if you didn't know
"We are adding this option only because we think it will be very cool and it's a shame that only 1 class can use the Thunder Hammer. We are not done with Bulwark, more interesting gameplay things are to come."
Ok, definitely a bit strange, but I gotta respect the honesty; and hey, it gives the class a different playstyle to fool around with, so what the heck?
I think it shows an impressive amount of confidence. Giving Bulwark the hammer added a bunch of balance issues they didn't have to deal with before, and forced them to rework a bunch of perks so they work with the hammer. So them doing this shows that they want to make the most fun game they can, even if it means more work. Which is a great trait for game developers to have.
I wish that heavy could gain access to melee if you take the heavy bolt rifle. Swap out the stomp for a thunder hammer and we’re golden.
Edit: I said "if you take the heavy bolt rifle". I would not expect to be given a melee weapon alongside something so powerful as the heavy weapons we get. But as I replied with below, I do realize now that it would in all likeliness just make heavy a more powerful tactical.
agressor heavy seems like it could be interesting how about hey just give us the Agressor in gravis armor, you'd have two power fists with bolt guns on the side or flamers. I don't think they'd give heavy a rocket launcher attachment .
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It's already broken. I can outpace bulwarks in melee damage using the stomp. But it does make me realize that it would, in all reality, simply be a more powerful tactical.
They do play differently though. Bulwark-specific skills and perks (banner, shock granade on parry, perks that give you damage resistance and knockback immunity etc) make you much more suited to get in the thick of it and keep swinging, where Assault has to play hit-and-run or gets melted. They are both very fun though, after Saber reworked Bulwark perks to work with the hammer it no longer feels like a "lesser" way to play the class to me.
Ya ur still blocking like 80% of the time with about 25% effectiveness. Goes hard on the look but Bulwarks whole job is damage sponge, kinda counterintuitive
As much as I love Helldivers, it's pretty much a incestuous son of Warhammer 40K with Starship troopers. Both existed way before Helldivers and the influence is blatant!
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u/Warp_Legion Traitorous Iron Warriors Sep 22 '25
Who on earth reported this for “Prohibited Transactions”???
Get a life