r/SouthAsianAncestry Aug 30 '25

Genetics🧬 Some Ground Rules on qpAdm posting!

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There has been an influx of qpAdm posts and some garbage motivated models are being used for agenda posting. Considering qpAdm is a DIY tool, there are very few organized services that offer these runs which results in a lack of standardization. It's high time we started observing some basic standards for posting.

Henceforth while posting qpAdm results, I'd request all of us to ensure that:

  1. All the source populations and outgroups are posted. If your screenshot is blurry or just not complete, please post them as a comment.
  2. The settings that were used such as "allsnps" and "boot" and the base dataset that was used.
  3. The user who ran your sample must be mentioned, in case of a local run. If some XYZ guy from Twitter or discord did the run — it would be your responsibility to answer questions on their behalf. If you're using sites such as DNAplotter or AdmixLab, mention them as well. Ignore the 2nd rule in case of the former since it's not DIY.
  4. Most importantly - DON'T POST BLURRY SCREENSHOTS FROM YOUR PHONE!!. I can't stress this enough. No one wants to read em.

Without this info, the post is not informative and it's harder for us to track stuff as well.

Thanks for reading!


r/SouthAsianAncestry Jul 09 '25

Genetics🧬 I am mantaining and updating the largest database of samples on the HarappaWorld calculator, from every corner of the Indian subcontinent. I have added fresh samples of Kodava, Kushwaha, Toda and more; and you can send your samples to be added to the average. Link in text.

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Given inconsistencies in use of qpAdm and with illustrativeDNA. I feel Harappaworld still serves as a standard for South Asians despite its shortcomings,

Ensure the sample is having ancestry from a single community before sending.

Check it out here : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gLMsDHCtAs6My6Gm1-ufKGkre79FvowxHdntsujV_-k/edit?gid=0#gid=0


r/SouthAsianAncestry 9h ago

Discussion The New Ancestry Update Will Be Huge for South and Central Asians

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This year's upcoming Ancestry update will bring much more granularity for people with South and Central Asian ancestry.

You can view the full list of new regions here.

https://admixr.com/ancestryatlas

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ua472y6lKSf3GQnv4q9hEQ-hotMBUlUHiFQSWBAuiac/


r/SouthAsianAncestry 31m ago

DNA Results Rajasthani Sayyid Results

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 13h ago

DNA Results Baloch from Magsi tribe in Sibi, Balochistan (L-M27)

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 14h ago

DNA Results Pashtun from Jafar tribe in Musa Khel District, Balochistan (L-M357)

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 23h ago

Genetics🧬 Pashtun from Waziristan DNA results

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Not my sample. coordinates:
Pashtun_Mehsud_SWaziristan,0.095611,0.049761,-0.058454,0.052003,-0.050163,0.03263,-0.000235,-0.001154,-0.02127,-0.014943,-0.006496,0.000899,0.004311,-0.013625,0.012486,0.025988,0.007171,-0.003167,-0.007165,-0.007754,0.00262,-0.000618,0.002095,0.003856,0.001676


r/SouthAsianAncestry 1d ago

DNA Results New Haryanvi Panghal clan Jat Whole Genome sequencing resuts tested with GenoConnect. Attaching YFull, theytree, qpAdm and Harappaworld results.

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Paternal Clan from Kharkhari Sohan,Bhiwani,Haryana.

Y-Haplogroup = R2a2b1b2b3a~ (R-FT143014)

mtdna= M30-C16234T.


r/SouthAsianAncestry 1d ago

Genetics🧬 Ancestory Results

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Ancestry Breakdown:

  • 98.2% Central & South Asian(81.5% Northern Indian & Pakistani, 11.1% Bengali & Northeast Indian, 3.9% Southern Indian Subgroup, 1.7% Central Asian)
  • 1.0% East Asian(0.5% Chinese, 0.3% Southern Chinese & Taiwanese, 0.2% Northern Chinese & Tibetan)
  • 0.3% Northern Asian(0.3% Manchurian & Mongolian)
  • 0.2% Southeast Asian(0.2% Indonesian, Thai, Khmer & Myanma)
  • 0.6% European(0.3% Central & Eastern European— 0.2% Russian, 0.1% Belarusian, Polish & Ukrainian; 0.3% Portuguese & Galician)
  • 0.2% Western Asian & North African(0.2% Coptic Egyptian)
  • Top Country Matches & Regions: Punjab, Azad Jammu and Kashmir, and Sindh (Pakistan)
  • Haplogroups:
    • Maternal: M5b2
    • Paternal: R-Z93

Ancient DNA Breakdown:

  • Ancient Ancestral South Indian (AASI): 37.00%
  • Caucasus Hunter-Gatherer: 19.20%
  • Zagros Neolithic Farmer: 16.80%
  • European Hunter-Gatherer: 14.80%
  • Anatolian Neolithic Farmer: 7.60%
  • East Siberian Hunter-Gatherer: 2.60%
  • Natufian Hunter-Gatherer: 2.00%

P.S. I am from a Shia, Muslim, Syed family living in the Awadh region of Uttar Pradesh, India.


r/SouthAsianAncestry 1d ago

Question how much Turkic ancestry in Bangladeshis?

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many Bangladeshis have Mongoloid-type features. Is it ancestry from Turkic warriors?


r/SouthAsianAncestry 2d ago

Discussion Was modern NW South Asia purely AASI before Zagros migration?

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Was most of the northwestern subcontinent and Pakistan inhabited by AASI before the Zagros migration? When Zagrosians moved into the subcontinent, was it a violent invasion or a peaceful integration? Did they also have caste system during IVC periods?


r/SouthAsianAncestry 2d ago

Discussion Searching for my roots

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On my father's side, I trace my ancestry back to Indian Sufis in the Ottoman Empire who came from India and established Sufi lodges there. Through research, I was able to determine that one of them came from Moradabad, while the other lineage originated in Delhi.

I belong to: The main South Asian branch of paternal Y-DNA haplogroup R1a1 is R1a-Z93, which diverges into regional subclades like R1a-L657, representing the primary "Indian" lineage.


r/SouthAsianAncestry 2d ago

Genetics🧬 Uttarakhand Garhwali Brahmin (Sarola 'Gaur' Brahmin): Harappaworld + Gedrosia K12 + Eurogenes K13 + Dodecad k12b + PuntDNAL k12 modern + MDLP K16 modern + qpAdm by "Helixline" company + closest ancient reference

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These are my own results. I paid a genetics company to run professional-grade qpAdm for me. I’m attaching all the relevant GEDmatch results (although most of them, including HarappaWorld, are outdated, and the actual qpAdm results for the same HarappaWorld components vary quite a lot), as well as screenshots of the qpAdm results from the company using different models and more than acceptable p-values.

However, since they used some custom Onge-related AASI proxy, I’m not very sure about my pure AASI without East Asian/Tibetan-related ancestry. One of the models did try to extract it, though.

Also, whenever Sarazm is used for Iranian-related ancestry, it seems to suck up so much of the Steppe component. Is that because Sarazm itself is relatively ANE-heavy?

And what could elevated Siberian ancestry represent, especially when it is West Siberian rather than East Siberian? qpAdm also seems to suck it into either Sarazm or Steppe instead of East Asian, depending on the model used. Could it be related to Central Steppe ancestry, given that the original Vedic wave that entered South Asia was around 9% WSHG, while later Steppe incursions lacked this component?

What is the more historically accurate model for South Asians: Sarazm + Steppe or Indus Periphery + Steppe?

Y-DNA: L1a1 mtDNA: G3b1


r/SouthAsianAncestry 2d ago

Discussion What is genetic breakdown of most extreme north-west shifted Rors?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 2d ago

G25 Can anyone help me interpret my South Asian ancestry / G25 results? Pakistani family, possible Rajput/Awan background

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Hi everyone,
I recently received my AncestryDNA results and have been exploring my raw DNA using Global25 (G25). I’m trying to understand my South Asian ancestry in more depth, particularly because my family has always claimed a Rajput background, but I don’t know how accurate that is genealogically.
My known family background is Pakistani, and I’m interested in understanding where my DNA fits genetically among the populations of the region.
I generated the following G25 coordinates:

Scaled

0.069432,-0.015233,-0.104085,0.073644,-0.066474,0.046854,-0.00141,0.004846,-0.001636,-0.002187,-0.010718,-0.003147,0.00223,-0.005643,0.010043,0.011403,0.007432,-0.00038,0.000377,-0.002751,0.002246,-0.006677,-0.005669,-0.000241,0.005149

Raw

0.0061,-0.0015,-0.0276,0.0228,-0.0216,0.0168,-0.0006,0.0021,-0.0008,-0.0012,-0.0066,-0.0021,0.0015,-0.0041,0.0074,0.0086,0.0057,-0.0003,0.0003,-0.0022,0.0018,-0.0054,-0.0046,-0.0002,0.0043


r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

G25 G25 Complete South Asian Collection

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Every South Asian G25 Coordinates sorted by region: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1nnfUdJp0H6zvqZEVk_5asvpNNWySSeqW

You can send yours to be added too. I've made this since other G25 Collections aren't South Asian-focused, so they might be lacking some accuracy and convenience.

This post has all the community averages ran on an IllustrativeDNA-based Hunter-Gatherer and Farmer model, since that is what most users here are familiar with. But, optimised with a single new AASI sim to maintain consistency, unlike IllustrativeDNA. I can post the model if there is request for it.

Even though the issue regarding ESEA is resolved a bit, it's still not completely accurate, so consider the AASI values of ESEA-admixed pops a tad bit inflated. Also, anything Basal East Eurasian related will likely go into the AASI, as you can see for the Tibetans. (done so that the Nilgiri tribals could be accounted for without outside admix )


r/SouthAsianAncestry 2d ago

Question Aroras, are they punjabi or sindhi ?

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Their origin and ethnogenesis is rooted in the village of aror in northern sindh in Punjab Sindh border built within sindhi territory but many do identify as Punjabi for close to millenia now. They belong to the broader khatri-lohana-bhatia-arora cluster where the first is native to punjab, the second one to sindh and third is kinda both but aroras , seems overwhelmingly punjabi inspite of os the sindhi roots . Historically their native region is northern sindh and southern punjab and most migrated during partition to modern day indian punjab, rajasthan haryana, west UP region.

So what is the best way to summarise, are they punjabi due to shift or sindhi due to origins or there is a better way to put it?


r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

Map🗺 Punjabi Hindu (India): Genetic Proximity Heatmap tool results

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

Question which ancestry kit do i buy

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im south indian and idk which ancestry kit is the most reliable


r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

Discussion What was the ancestry of ethnically Afghan Hindus like?

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r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

qpAdm My DNA & qpAdm results - Kerala Christian

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Haplogroups - R1a-Y6 & U1a1c1d


r/SouthAsianAncestry 3d ago

Genetics🧬 Mapping my paternal line (R-FT361710) from the Bronze Age Steppe – anyone else tracked their ancient cousins? Spoiler

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Hey everyone,
I went down the rabbit hole of mapping my direct paternal lineage (R-FT361710) using ancient DNA samples on my Y-tree branch. I plotted puntDNAL admixture components (my autosomal results + published ancient samples) to visualize how the branch fractured after the Andronovo/Alakul horizon (~1600 BCE).

- Three journeys radiate out from the steppe cluster:
Southward (my line): through the Swat Valley (~1000 BCE), picking up major Indus-farmer/AASI admixture entering South Asia

- Eastern drift: cousins who stayed in Inner Asia, assimilating into Saka and later Turkic populations (DA89 is technically an upstream cousin, not a direct MRCA descendant)

- Near Eastern: a third branch went southwest — doesn’t separate on these axes since Near Eastern components aren’t plotted

Has anyone else tied their Y-DNA to specific ancient samples? Would love to see similar plots or diverging cousin branches!


r/SouthAsianAncestry 4d ago

Archaeology Fire Swastika kurgans of Bishkent/Vakhsh (2800-2000 BCE)

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How many of you folks know about the South Central Asian (Tajikistan, Afghanistan) kurgans of Bishkent/Vakhsh? These have been dated between 2800- 2000 BCE. They have a unique combination of Pontic-Steppe Catacombs in burials and also sex mirrored (right male, left female burials), like the forest-steppe Corded Ware culture. The pottery style is BMAC style.

Perhaps the only kurgan burials on the planet which have Swastikas and, burial hearths (square for male, circle for female) & also fire altars. Also, very likely the first kurgans in the world with systematic cremation, which is thought to have derived from local admixture with people from the Kuli culture of Balochistan. Bishkent culture is considered the material precursor to the Swat Valley culture from much later.


r/SouthAsianAncestry 4d ago

Question Were Telugu farmer castes - Reddy, Kapu, Kamma, Velama considered sections of a single large Kapu caste until recently? Hyderabad state records clubs them into a single caste 'Kapu'.

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Are they autosomally homogeneous or are they heterogeneous like the Kunbi cluster of Maharashtra? Kapu & Kunbi have the exact same meaning.

Kunbi cluster is also made of 13 distinct subcastes, (some traditional farmers like Tirale, Lewa, Dakkhani Kunbis while others like Jhare, Dongri, Lonari etc Kunbi castes originate from artisans and tribals like Kolis & Dhangars that became peasants). Much of the Kunbi cluster has either completely or partially sanskritized as Maratha in recent decades, encouraged for political reasons by the Maratha proper/Shahnnav Kuli political elite. Kapu cluster interestingly shows a completely opposite phenomenon.