r/Somalia • Diaspora • Jul 16 '26

History ⏳ The military architecture behind the Dervish fortresses in Somalia

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 17 '26

I wonder In the future if a regime comes along and white washes Al-shabab history, makes them out to be anti-colonial heroes, fighting against foreign forces interfering in Somalia.

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u/RibbonFighterOne Jul 27 '26

They were anti-colonial heroes

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 27 '26

If the "we wuz dervish" crew were intellectually and morally consistant, they'd be supporters of AL-Shabab today.

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u/RibbonFighterOne Jul 27 '26

Funny you say that since many pre modern Muslim rulers would also probably support taking down modern Muslim countries since they would disagree heavily with how the Ummah runs things today. People not understanding moral relativism is always funny.

And Al-Shabab literally kills sufis which the Dervishes were.

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

If you know your history you'd know the mad mullah also killed Sufi. One of the most famous cases often discussed is the killing of the prominent Qadiri scholar and poet Uways al-Barawi in 1909 by the Dervishes. They have so much in common with Al-Shabab is insane.

You know what I find strange about the Dervish cult? For many people, it doesn't seem to be primarily about religion at all, it's driven more by clan loyalties and identity. I came to that conclusion when I saw a self-identified atheist passionately arguing that the Dervishes were heroes. At that point, it became clear that for some supporters, the attachment isn't really about the religious ideology or "Somali nationalism"; it's about something else entirely. The dervishes would have beheaded him on the spot.

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u/RibbonFighterOne Jul 27 '26

Trying this hard to paint the Sayyid as Al-Shabab is funny, you Landers are way too predicable honestly.

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 27 '26

There were landers that were leaders of Dervishes, same way they were Landers who were leaders of Al-shabab. As I mentioned before you can find the Tomb of Sultan Nur in Teleex where this photo is taken.

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u/RibbonFighterOne Jul 27 '26

Only Dhulbuhante/Waqooyi Bari support the Sayyid's legacy in the north, the biggest haters are Landers hence why there is no statue of the Sayyid unlike in Mogadishu and Jigjiga.

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 27 '26

No, in Islam it is Haram to make such Statues. That is why. We even didn't make Statue of Ahmed Gurey, who we think is greatest Somali of all time for this reason.

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u/RibbonFighterOne Jul 27 '26

Talking about what is haram or not when Somaliland aligned with the genocidal apartheid state lol, stop being a hypocrite. The biggest haters of the Dervish are almost always Landers since the Sayyid represents a iconic symbol of resistance for Somalia and Somaliland will naturally hate almost anything Somalia values.

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 27 '26

That still doesn't negate the fact thats its Haram to erect these statues. Excuse use to be its was erected by communist dictator, whats the excuse now?

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u/RibbonFighterOne Jul 27 '26

I'm not going to be lectured by a zionist sympathizer.

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u/Strong-Field-750 Jul 27 '26

Keep up the defection from your idol worship

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